RandomAct Posted November 22, 2015 Posted November 22, 2015 I agree. I have no issue with how they reacted to Eva, because they booed the fuck out of a heel. If someone has an issue with that reaction, there is an even bigger problem.
JCM Posted November 22, 2015 Posted November 22, 2015 I agree with that. They weren't chanting anything vulgar at her so I don't feel like it crossed a line or anything. Folley comes off like a crybaby. OMG a heel is getting heat how dare the audience disrespect them. Anything is better than the comatose main roster audience that likes maybe 3 acts on the entire show.
MORELOCK Posted November 22, 2015 Posted November 22, 2015 Foley wasn't addressing Eva and boos are not the wrong kind of heat.
Rev Ray Posted November 23, 2015 Posted November 23, 2015 I know someone on Twitter told him he should probably talk to his daughter's boyfriend at trying to get over in the crowd. 3
The Nature Boy Posted November 23, 2015 Posted November 23, 2015 I know someone on Twitter told him he should probably talk to his daughter's boyfriend at trying to get over in the crowd. I forgot that the dude's daughter is dating a guy who got himself over as a fan. Dating Mick Foley's hot daughter is a good incentive to get yourself over.
Dewar Posted November 23, 2015 Posted November 23, 2015 It also shows her low standards. That could have been one of us!!!!!! 1
JRGoldman Posted November 23, 2015 Posted November 23, 2015 I've mentioned this before, but I don't think I'd have a problem with the chants or the fans if the crowd wasn't so well lit and the camera didn't pan to some dude in a batman shirt with every new chant at the expense of the match. To me, it makes it seem like the NXT producers are saying the way to get on TV is to constantly chant no matter what the situation. Because of this, the fans have been conditioned to not actually react organically, but instead to expect a reward for being 'clever'. I don't think anyone doubts how committed the Full Sail crowd is to NXT. They very clearly love it. That being said, the way NXT and the crowd have been presented has created a crowd that now expects constant recognition. To me, this is a problem, and it will continue to hurt the overall presentation of NXT. 5
thee Reverend Axl Future Posted November 24, 2015 Posted November 24, 2015 The predictability and ubiquitous nature of modern audience chanting is what annoys me. The crowd used to chant to affect the wrestlers, now they seem to do it just to show cleverness or let you know their opinions. The former action participates in the suspension of disbelief for all, the latter is for me a modern symptom of the interWeb inspired "everybody listen to me" solipsism. Sheeple, please... big words, old man attitude, RAF 2
Patrick B. Posted November 24, 2015 Posted November 24, 2015 I'm at the point where I hesitate to talk wrestling with people since I don't feel like getting into an argument. To be fair, it's probably for the best...gotta diversify my interests.
ARMDRAGON Posted November 24, 2015 Posted November 24, 2015 — CM Punk & Seth Rollins vs. Antonio Cesaro & Kassius Ohno NXT • October 17, 2012 — William Regal vs. Antonio Cesaro NXT • December 25, 2013 Confirmed for NXT's Greatest Matches Vol. 1 DVD/Blu Ray. 1
Death From Above Posted November 24, 2015 Posted November 24, 2015 It also shows her low standards. That could have been one of us!!!!!! Seriously, fuck Frank the Clown. 3
The Z Posted November 24, 2015 Posted November 24, 2015 — CM Punk & Seth Rollins vs. Antonio Cesaro & Kassius Ohno NXT • October 17, 2012 — William Regal vs. Antonio Cesaro NXT • December 25, 2013 Confirmed for NXT's Greatest Matches Vol. 1 DVD/Blu Ray. Holy shit, the holy grail of NXT matches sees the surface. Pretty surprising they would care to release it now, considering where two of the guys in the match are now. It also shows her low standards. That could have been one of us!!!!!! Seriously, fuck Frank the Clown. Don't. 1
John from Cincinnati Posted November 24, 2015 Posted November 24, 2015 Solomon Crowe requested his release. I remember enjoying his contribution to the Dusty Classic and thinking he might be on the verge of starting to get the WWE style. Whoops.
Go2Sleep Posted November 24, 2015 Posted November 24, 2015 Not too surprising about Crowe. He was getting lost in the shuffle bad, and with the rumored new names coming in, and it wouldn't appear he was getting out any time soon.
MonteCarl Posted November 24, 2015 Posted November 24, 2015 Never saw anything Crowe did before NXT, but his run in NXT was dull and uninspired. Never saw anything from him that made me think he could break out at any time. He definitely did not live up to the hype around him when he first signed.
Nice Guy Eddie Posted November 24, 2015 Posted November 24, 2015 Never saw anything Crowe did before NXT, but his run in NXT was dull and uninspired. Never saw anything from him that made me think he could break out at any time. He definitely did not live up to the hype around him when he first signed. I would direct you first to Sami Callihan's matches vs. Finlay. I also enjoyed his tag work with Jon Moxley as Switchblade Conspiracy.
nofuture Posted November 24, 2015 Posted November 24, 2015 Sami would have benefited from trying a completely new gimmick/character, something out of his comfort zone. His quasi-cyber punk thing never really connected with the NXT crowd.
Technico Support Posted November 24, 2015 Posted November 24, 2015 The quasi cyber-punk thing wasn't even him. I don't think he ever had a "character" aside from "crazy little weirdo who will fuck you up." I loved his stuff in PWG in 2012/2013, which was right before he went to NXT...great 3 match series with Drake Younger, awesome match against Steen, fun Iron Man match vs Cole, etc. Chalk it up to a dumb gimmick, an initial push halted by injury, just not catching on, and bad timing (too many indy superstars coming in). Anyway, I wonder if he'll be booked for All Star Weekend? NXT's loss is indy fans' gain. 2
JRGoldman Posted November 24, 2015 Posted November 24, 2015 Frankly, I'm more interesting in Callihan/Thatcher and Callihan/Gulak than I am in most NXT matches. I wonder if the WWE/Evolve relationship will prevent those from happening. That would be a disappointment. 1
EVA Posted November 24, 2015 Posted November 24, 2015 There were definitely some circumstances that conspired to make it more difficult for Callihan, but ultimately, I think his failure to thrive in NXT was due to him being too small to work the style that he built his reputation on in WWE and his inability to adapt beyond that. He's only 28, so it's not like this is the end for him. But if he ever wants to make it back, I think he needs to push himself to vary up his game more. If he just goes back to being Mr. They Came For STIFF on the Indies and throwing a hundred suplexes and hard forearms, that's pretty much all he's ever going to be.
MonteCarl Posted November 24, 2015 Posted November 24, 2015 Not saying he isn't or can't be good, just that, as somebody who only knows him as Solomon Crowe and nothing beforehand, he never was able to show anything on NXT to impress me. I'm not shocked that he's gone. He obviously wasn't being given anything he could sink his teeth in to as a performer. 1
odessasteps Posted November 24, 2015 Posted November 24, 2015 Mildly surprised the wwf spite machine would put the walking dead commentator on a dvd and give him some royalties when they didnt have to, even if its a match featuring seth and cesaro.
Ryback Hates Bullies Posted November 25, 2015 Posted November 25, 2015 Even if Solomon Crowe made it in NXT, the chances of him making it on RAW were practically zero.
PetrolCB Posted November 25, 2015 Posted November 25, 2015 He'd make it to Raw, by way of jobbing on Main Event/Superstars (whatever's on Monday) every week.
The Z Posted November 25, 2015 Posted November 25, 2015 His biggest problem was that nothing about his character in NXT really made any sense. His hacker gimmick, which was never fully utilized in the first place, didn't fit with his ridiculous haircut and ringgear. He should have taken Sami Zayn's advice from Breaking Ground and just dared to try something else. I don't know how much of the blame there lies on him and how much on WWE.
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