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  1. Orange is the new Black.
    29 points
  2. Clearly, this would be most effective.
    29 points
  3. I think the biggest thing being missed in this entire situation is that as different as AEW is from WWE it is still pretty committed to maintenance of the status quo as far as who they push at the top of the card or even as a future star. Then on top of that, when we discuss what black person should be in the main event, we are looking for people who are already at a main event level. That doesn't make any sense. If the problem is that black people aren't pushed to the main event, how the fuck do you expect to find someone on the black main event level. That is like in the NFL when people bring up the lack of black head coaches, and then someone says, "Well, they just hire the person with the most experience." So, black people should just stop trying, huh? If the problem is that these opportunities don't go to minorities, you can't then ask for a minority who has the already had the opportunity. They don't exist, which is the problem that we need to fix. We can't fix it by looking for the people who aren't there, you have to look at the people who are there and give them an opportunity to fail. Black people are given chances to succeed, white people are given chances to fail. When people talk about diversity and institutional racism, people start looking for klan hoods and burning crosses, but as bad as that shit is it's on the fringes. The most prevalent and insidious part of racism is the complete and total dedication to maintaining the status quo. No one expected Britt Baker to turn into the star she has become when she was put in that position. She was given the opportunity to sink or swim, and it turned out she could swim. Adam Page wasn't some can't miss prospect. He was given the opportunity to see if he could take that next step, and he made it happen. We also can't look at Jade Cargill of all people and say, "see black people get opportunities." Jade Cargill is Jackie Robinson. I know she's not the first black woman in wrestling, but she is about as exceptional of a wrestling prospect that exists. Jackie Robinson wasn't the best black baseball player, he just happened to be one of the most exceptional people this country has ever produced in almost every way. Jackie Robinson was literally great at everything, and had to fight and claw to get to the major leagues to play against people who were allowed to just be good enough at baseball. If you have to be Jade Cargill to get a shot, no one else is going to get a shot. Big Swole is an average ass professional wrestler, but black people don't get to be average. Big Swole is no worse than Anna Jay, but Anna Jay gets to be average. This shit will never change until black people get to be average at their job. Black people get put into positions when everyone believes that they will succeed. If there is a question about whether or not that a person will be successful, that position will go to someone else. Black parents always tell their kids, if you want to get somewhere in life you have to be twice as good as the white people you're competing against...and it's true. If someone has any questions about whether you are good enough to do something, the answer will always be no. Over the last decade the NFL has had a huge influx of black quarterbacks who would have never got a shot in the past and that's great, but it's still not ideal. Yes if you are Cam Newton or Lamar Jackson you can be the quarterback of an NFL franchise. You know who you can't be? Colt McCoy. Colt McCoy has been an average ass quarterback for over a decade and he just keeps getting them checks. It's perfectly fine to be average ass Colt McCoy, the vast majority of people at any position in any industry is overwhelmingly average. You just can't be black and unexceptional in every way and expect to stick around like Colt McCoy. We spent 8 pages talking about the two or three black people on their roster who get regular television time and it's Jade Cargill who is 1 of 1, Dante Martin, who is 1 of 1, and Powerhouse Hobbs, who in this day and age is 1 of 1. Matt Hardy has a whole team of just regular ass white dudes (I know there is also Private party and that dude who looks like buff Low-Ki). The Dark Order is full of just regular ass white dudes. The Best Friends are just Orange Cassidy and his average ass friends. You don't get to be black and fill a roster spot, and that is a diversity problem.
    25 points
  4. He was a Jungle Boy, she said see you later boy, Luchasaurus has horns and an ancient history degree.
    21 points
  5. Listening to Observer Radio the other day, Dave made a joke about how preposterous the idea was that Flair and Mulligan tried to run a territory. Now look, I know Flair was bad with finances, but I can tell you Blackjack absolutely knew how to make money.
    20 points
  6. Darby having fun in traffic after the show The fact that Darby and Sting are travel buddies warms my heart.
    19 points
  7. 19 points
  8. You really should. These posts make you look weird.
    19 points
  9. Are you insinuating they did Nazi this coming?
    18 points
  10. In other news: Tony Schiavone signed an extension to stay until 2024.
    18 points
  11. 18 points
  12. So, as a white dude I'm going to try very, very hard to not overstep. I have some questions, though. I've noticed elsewhere that folks have a problem with the state of the roster as it pertains to African American men. At the time the company was formed, who was out there that had any sort of notoriety that AEW could've signed? Kofi, Woods, Big E, Keith Lee, Lashley, Swerve Scott, Crews, Alexander, Benjamin, Trey Miguel, Rich Swann, the Mack... all elsewhere. I feel they've actually done a fairly good job getting the Acclaim over. Private Party has been used regularly, if presented a bit inconsistently. Lee Johnson has a bright future. Lee Moriarty. Shawn Dean. Lockhart. Will Hobbs. I imagine Keith Lee's price just went up, and for his sake I hope so. I just can't figure out what a reasonable expectation for black male main eventers given that there weren't any high level free agents out there at the time AEW was formed. Hell, Lee is the first real "A list" free agent that fits that bill in a year or so. Secondly, to the naked eye, AEW's roster is diverse. There have been four women's world champions in AEW. Exactly one has been white. They've gotten firmly behind the Lucha Brothers, P&P, Sammy Guevara, Jade Cargill, Thunder Rosa, Dante Martin, Ricky Starks and Scorpio Sky. Could they use a couple upper card male performers? 100%. But there are folks making it sound like AEW's roster looks like the crowd of goofs that stormed the Capitol last year. It ain't monochrome. Thirdly, Big Swole is a very, very average performer. She's probably reached her ceiling as a women's wrestler in a mainstream promotion. It's very hard for me not to be cynical about the motivation behind those comments. Lastly, what TK said is inexcusable. As someone who has dealt with a very mild ASD diagnosis my adolescent and adult life, Tony's response, along with some other things I've seen from him, makes me wonder if he has some undiagnosed ASD as well. It doesn't excuse what he said, it would just explain some of his behavior. FWIW, I personally believe autism is much more common than we think it is, particularly in professional athletes & entertainers.
    18 points
  13. describing a common practice in wrestling forever like blading as “The self-mutilation that bloodied several women in the December 31 event on TNT.” This is the kind of bullshit lawyer speak where Ted Cruz would describe student loan forgiveness as “the sinister plan by leftists to dis-empower several American businesses that promote educational funding.” As small a thing as it is, this kind of abuse of language to foster concern trolling just to score a few points somehow really pisses me off. The arrogance of thinking we are so much stupider than them that they can just just push our outrage button with the most childish nonsense, coupled with the craven willingness to pretend they themselves believe this when we all know they know better signals crossing a line from “kind of corrupt corporate type” to “utterly soulless ghoul without a glimmer of humanity left in their eyes.” goddamn I hate this company and genuinely hope it dies.
    17 points
  14. Doubling down on what I was saying, one element of AEW booking is that no one that is doing anything is doing just one thing. Look at Statlander. She's number one in the rankings. She's now involved in the Britt/Cole thing. She's got beef with Hirsch who's about to turn on her. She just came off that loss to Soho that they could poke at later if they want to. Sting and Darby are up against the Acclaimed, who are also the number one ranked team and looking ahead to the champs, but Andrade also wants Darby as his new assistant, and now he's talking to Hardy about something. It's a giant tapestry which is really not how I can remember any company ever being booked before. It means that there's reason for people to get involved in almost every match. Scorpio Sky or Arn could have come down for the Sammy match just as easily as the multiple entities that were already there.
    17 points
  15. I promise I'm not trying to be a dick with this reply. But why are you guys demanding a bunch of people lose their livelihoods? Are you really that worried about AEW's finances that you're demanding budget cuts WWE style? AEW doesn't release people. They let the contracts that they agree to run their course, even if they decide they don't have interest in someone. I get that AEW has more parts than it needs. But all this hand wringing about who they should fire is some corporate America stockholm syndrome shit. No one needs to be cut. AEW made a lot of agreements. They have the money to honor those agreements, whether there is use of the talent anymore or not. Like would you really prefer Joey Janela & Sonny Kiss (two people they obviously don't put on tv anymore) get fired and not be able to pay their bills just so you guys can keep track of a roster page easier or whatever? Even Brian Cage who openly talked shit on them. They don't have anything planned for him but why fire him and make his life harder? They agreed to pay him x dollars over three years. He's getting x dollars unless he himself asks not to be held to the agreement. That's how wrestling contracts SHOULD work.
    17 points
  16. PSA: I could care less = You do care I couldn't care less = You don't care I could give two shits = I care enough about this situation to squeeze some kids out, hopefully store them in some tupperware rather than just your hand and then give them to the person you are speaking to. I couldn't give two shits = I couldn't even go through the effort of doing the above. Yours sincerely, a British English speaker.
    17 points
  17. I am made the smart decision to go to bed way before the ball dropped so I am just getting around to some stuff now. Couple of notes - You don't always have to have the last word - If something has dropped off the last page of replies or there has been a lengthy gap of time since the last reply - fairly decent chance that everyone has already moved on so bringing it back up (especially if you are tagging people) is counterproductive. (Side note - the "only x more days in the month" posts are also not helpful) - Even if you aren't using ignore - get into the habit of having a list of folks you just won't engage with. - Every day is No Strike Day
    16 points
  18. A wild Greek has been spotted! Yep, that's me alright. I also had a "Thank you, Coach Tony K!" sign that I kind of tried to show in the beginning, a "Remaster Sonic Adventure 2!" sign for my wife and of course this one. Tried to not spam these but once I got confirmation they were shown via Discord I stopped with them. I will say I thought the crowd was going to come off a lot quieter than they ended up sounding on TV. It's almost like production pulled a minor miracle in getting the mics setup correctly and the shots to not make it look as empty as the other side was. But it sure felt quiet in my section which is odd since I thought they would have tried to be more vocal considering they were on TV. But I can at least say nobody was an asshat and the people around me had a grand ol' time. I didn't pay much attention to the first few matches of Dark since I was busy making the signs in my seat. I managed to convince security that I was in a rush and didn't have time so they let me through with the blank signs. I guess they figured I was too much of a nerd to try anything stupid. I was delighted to see Sonny though even live I found myself heading to concessions during the Gunn Club match. I just can't get into them even though they're delightful heels. The one great thing about a venue like this with not as many people is merch was easily accessible and well stocked. And concession prices weren't too shabby either. It felt like watching ROH at UMBC Center and had that weird independent show vibe that happened to be on national TV. Yes, sir, that's me. Full credit goes to @AxBfor suggesting it on Discord and I'm just glad I thought to bring three sheets of poster board instead of two. Please know especially with recent stuff going on that you got a lot of people here that love and care about you. Keep your head up, fella. Love, Nick.
    16 points
  19. October 2021 / January 2022. Before and After
    16 points
  20. this idea might not fit Shinsuke but clearly the best way to heal a hand injury is to wear a loaded black glove on the injured hand and knock people out with punches correction, that's the best way to heel a hand injury
    16 points
  21. So Jake Atlas is the best wrestler in AEW? That powerbomb was something I've never seen before and I've been watching wrestling for 52 years. The Hook match was in that it wasn't a total squash. The Rhio/Ruby Soho vs Britt Baker/Jamie Hayter match was good. Fhio looked really sharp in with Hayter and Britt's offense looked pretty nasty. Daniel Garcia was the superstar of the main event. He was INTENSE. YAY! AEW RULES!
    16 points
  22. With that bad ticker? He’s going with Steph. He always dreamed of being in her.
    16 points
  23. You sure he didn’t have “Assthma”?
    16 points
  24. I guess you could sort of consider Sting's Horsemen run in late 1989/early 1990. The Horsemen were ostensibly faces but nobody, except for our sweet summer child Stinger, believed that for a second. WWE's relationship with Nick Khan is like when a really insecure, maybe not too good looking person who has never really had a significant other finally gets attention from someone attractive. They're so high on the validation they're finally getting that they will make any dumb choice needed to keep it going. Vince is just over the moon that this "legit businessman" from outside his gross carny world thinks his disgusting rasslin company is worth something. It's pretty damn funny to see one con man outwork another like it's Dirty Rotten Scoundrels or something. This has been my Sidney M Basil moment of the day.
    15 points
  25. Just had the absolute pleasure of meeting Bryan Danielson. I asked him about NJPW and he told me he was supposed to already be there but due to Covid and a 2 week quarantine he just can't do it right now. Hoping things are better by the G1 as he really wants to be in this year. Couldn't have been a nicer guy. One of the rare ones who didn't charge for autographs or pics.
    15 points
  26. Holy shit! If indeed that's @NikoBaltimore, thank you my friend. Love, Paul xxx.
    15 points
  27. Is this you??? If so? AWESOME!
    15 points
  28. It's ok to ask women to move cross country, employ them, and then fire them three months later after enrolling their children in school, but bleeding on tv is where they draw the line?
    15 points
  29. 15 points
  30. I cut WWE out of my wrestling viewing habits in 2019 and I've been so much happier.
    15 points
  31. Something about the "people are only on TV once every 3-4 weeks in AEW" talking point that I think needs addressing, and I never see it brought up from a worker perspective. In WWE, you're told to be at the building for TV under the pretense that you'll be used. Meaning you're on the booking sheet for the day, meaning you need to prepare an extra day of hotel room and rental car (whether you're arranging it yourself or staying with another person) due to the house show schedule. So when you get there and find out that you're not on the show, or that you were on the show but you get bumped for time, it can be demotivating. Remember, in WWE, the talent comes out of pocket for the expenses like hotel and car, so you're being told to show up for work, only to sit around and not be used, and have to come out of pocket for your expenses. Sure, you will get that back when you file your taxes and claim your business expenses, you lucky independent contractor you, but you still have to come out of pocket for the "privilege" first. Now imagine this happens for several weeks in a row. And weeks stretch into months. Or it becomes a company-wide thing where it becomes a running joke that "sitting in catering" is an apparent position in the company. And you're having to come out of pocket to do this when you could be home, resting your body, in a business where if you get maybe five good years you're one of the lucky ones. Maybe, just maybe, if you see other options, they might be worth taking. Even if they aren't every single week. Some wrestlers might not want to be on the show every week. Some wrestlers might just want to know they're figured in on plans and don't have to waste their time coming to the building knowing that they're not going to get used when they could be using that day to rest, or spending it in a fashion more productive for them. And we don't think about this aspect, because all we see is the end result. Should AEW have more than one women's match per show? 100%, and I've been screaming about that for months now. But I think it ultimately boils down to what a wrestler wants to do with their career, and where they think they can make more of a difference in the company they work for. It seems a lot of people are deciding that, for them, that's not WWE. Options are good. It's nice to have them.
    15 points
  32. Vince McMahon and George Lucas hanging out on the Presidio 8 Billion Disney dollars between them, each of them endlessly mumbling about how Mania 1 was make or break or how the studio didn't believe a space opera would work over and over again until they both crumple Godfather style off their folding chairs.
    14 points
  33. Another instance of AEW bring a really good company...
    14 points
  34. 14 points
  35. I haven't completely given up drinking but I'd say I've cut back 80-85% since September, I'm down 30 pounds and way happier mentally. Glad to see Mox seemingly in a good place right now.
    14 points
  36. LOL. I wasn't aware of this story.
    14 points
  37. Uncle Tony absolutely shouldn't sign everyone WWE releases. It's terrible business practice and leads to a bloated roster. Uncle Tony absolutely should move heaven and earth to bring Mustafa Ali to his show. Dude could be an absolute star. If that means less tv time for guys like Tony Nese and Bobby Fish... so much the better.
    14 points
  38. No matter how good the environment in the AEW locker room is, different people are gonna have different experiences, and not all will be positive. The next time someone comes out with a non-positive report, Tony's second-best option would be to say "I'm sorry you feel that way. I wish you the best," the best option of course being to not say anything.
    14 points
  39. Guys, come on, work with me here. We can all agree that this was great. It is the great unifier.
    14 points
  40. Oh man, that World Title match was fucking awesome. I like at the end where they both channel Tomohiro Ishii vs Shibatta with the ridiculous headbutts. Lookit all the BLOOD! Jillion stars. I love that they turned Jade Cargill face right before the match because of her adorable daughter, Match was about as good as we were going to get, I guess. Awww, her daughter chanting JADE JADE JADE was adorable. I hope Rey Fenix recovers, I never want to see that again. Yeah, hard to follow that first match.
    14 points
  41. The thing with Regal is that he can do literally anything and make AEW better. I mean, I wouldn't put him in accounting. But scout, agent, announcer, on screen authority role. And the other on screen roles? MJF's put upon butler. Acclaimed Record Producer. Male cheerleader partner to Julia for Griff and Pillman Danielson's Tully. CP Munk Dark Order member "Q" or "M" Serpentico's reptile handler. Britt Baker's patient as a recurring joke in skits. By far the most entertaining part of BTE every week. Literally any talent on the roster.
    14 points
  42. Yep, he has a good eye for talent. I'm sorry.
    14 points
  43. First, you're diagnosing Tony as on the spectrum. You have no clue about that. Even if he is, that doesn't excuse his social media boo-hoo (which he does often BTW), because he knew he find like-minded fans who would validate him. Tony Khan is 39 years old with endless financial resources. He has a multitude of options to have approached this like a professional AND functioning adult. He chose otherwise. The pacifying of grown men to justify bad behavior is disgusting. I don't care that he used to post around here and some of you think he's cool. He's being a jerk in this situation. Second, you're trying to rationalize this with your White male eyes. Which happens a lot on wrestling. And you did mention that, so points for self-awareness. But I wonder if one day, you and others will ever listen to a Black woman's perspective on such topics. To this point--and I've been here for years--the answer has been no. But I'll give part of my take here, all the same: Swole gave her opinions and feelings on certain things in AEW. There are valid, regardless of whether you think she's a bad wrestler. At no point did she personally attack Tony. She came closer to insulting Brandi on the 'no Black voices in upper management' bit. But after seeing some of her promos, I can't imagine Swole and Brandi seeing eye-to-eye on much. The idea that some are suggesting--that Swole shouldn't have aired her troubles publicly--is a laugh considering how many salivate at Talk is Jericho or Renee Paquette 'wrestler tells all' shows and shoot interviews in previous years. Just because you don't agree or think she stinks at her job doesn't make her feelings lesser than or means she should be quiet to play nice. But you seem to be leaning that way because you're not giving her POV value. In essence, what Swole said is 1) AEW needs to improve in overall respresentation and giving women the same chances as men, 2) There needs to be more structure from a creative standpoint to help younger wrestlers or those new to TV who may need more help with the process, 3) The time AEW has for its shows needs to be better arranged to give wrestlers meaningful matches, and 4) AEW is a solid promotion and wishing them well. You would think she spit on someone's grave by some of the reactions. And as a Black woman who's watched and talked about wrestling for a while, I've seen those same statements from others. She's not alone in thinking this way. But I can't help but ask if her being a Black woman with the audacity to speak her peace out loud is the issue here. Again, I point to you saying she's bad at her job. So what? What does that have to do with what she's speaking about? She didn't even frame the conversation around herself. She was talking about AEW's environment as a whole. But you--and many more--have used the moment to belittle what you think is her lack of wrestling abilities and ignore her concerns. You decided that what she said has no value because you don't like how she does a headlock or cuts a promo. You, along with Tony, make it personal instead of tackling the real issues she mentioned. And why is that? Because you don't know how? Or you simply don't want to know? Until you and others can put down your bias and tendency to downplay others whose voice doesn't amplify yours, we'll keep having conversations like this where we point fingers and nothing worth holding is accomplished. And we'll accuse each other of things that aren't true and we'll get mad but then make up and play nice until the cycle begins again. Frankly, the bicycle is on flats and I'm tired of pedaling for those who say they listen and care and appreciate my take but show otherwise. That's not against you directly, just me saying my peace out loud.
    14 points
  44. There are good and bad things about having big 2003 DVDVR board vibes.
    14 points
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