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  1. I always catch myself thinking about the "Lost Generation" of US pro-wrestlers who existed after the demise of WCW/ECW and before the NXT talent raids. Like, I don't think we realized what was happening during those 18 years of WWE dominance and TNA futility. I don't think we realized it was a period in wrestling history when things were not the way they were supposed to be. Even (especially?) die-hard fans were so pessimistic about the whole thing that we just assumed wrestling wasn't ever going to be cool again, the UFC took all the legitimacy away, Benoit took away all the joy, the demise of WCW took away all the creativity, and somehow our favorite thing deserved to be portrayed to the masses as a largely stupid and childish form of entertainment. That's why I think it's really important to remember and celebrate the generation of wrestlers who peaked in that era and never got to make the millions of dollars & fans that they would have in any other. Off the top of my head, Homicide, Nigel McGuinness, and Chris Hero are the big-name indy superstars that come to mind but after that first tier comes a bunch of bigger what-ifs. Alex Shelley, Super Dragon, Eddie Edwards, maybe not headcases like Low Ki and Davey Richards. Really entertaining guys who would have gotten over as midcard acts, like a hypothetical 2002 ECW run with the Spanish Announce Team, or 2009 WCW running an odd CHIKARA tag in the first hour of Nitro. Who's to say an edgy rival doesn't counter-program the Cena era and doesn't do a Gage-esque short run with a deathmatch guy? I think the rawest deals went to the "sports entertainment" type guys who worked a real solid style but weren't flashy enough to win over spotmark indy fans, i.e. BJ Whitmer, Adam Pearce, Xavier, etc. Or European guys like Jody Fleisch who would have, at the very least, been able to garner a decent following with just a little US TV exposure or bigger US indies that could afford to fly them in. Or, here's a shocker, every woman who was in that first wave of SHIMMER talent - it is bullshit that people like Lacey or LuFisto never even had a chance to be famous. A majority of the PWG founders + early regulars had to eventually say "fuck it" and fall back on their day jobs, and I'm pretty certain time has already dimmed the glory of their deeds. Not to mention global talent like the cursed 3rd Generation of the NJPW dojo, the heavyweights that failed to inherent the throne of NOAH, and the dozens of luchadores who would have done a better job with the Sin Cara gimmick than Mistico. I guess what I'm saying is, this board was built on the discussion of monopoly-era indies and international wrestling so talking about these guys is second nature to a lot of us. But the rest of the wrestling fandom is pretty darn clueless. Don't allow these past decades to become the Dark Ages. Tell the children all your tales of B-Boy, "The Turkish Delight" Murat Bosporus, and Osamu Nishimura, or we will live in a world that will forget them.
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  2. My little one surprised me today with an early birthday present, she knows me well
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  3. Check this picture posted by AEW. Wow.
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  4. We wish WWE all the best in their future endeavors.
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  5. So that's why he started the sleaze thread.
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  6. So I had a ticket to sell because my friend couldn't go and I found a buyer. I sold it through stubhub and had no idea who bought but I knew when I got to the show, I'll be seated next to that person. I get to the show and for the whole night, that seat is empty. I thought maybe that person missed the show too. I get an email last night saying "the ticket was put to good use" and it's a picture of the fan dressed up as Dusty Rhodes! That guy was over big time everyone last night.
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  7. Fucking hell Tommy Dreamer why don't you try to be the Innovator of Silence from now on.
    21 points
  8. I had a great time despite being worn out by the end of Rampage. My throat hurts and my voice is shot. There wasn't anything that wasn't solid. As you'd expect, Punk, Danielson, Adam Cole, and Ruby Soho were all insanely over. The brawl between Suzuki-gun and Moxley/Kingston was awesome. It was cool seeing people's jaws drop for an unadvertised Minoru Suzuki. I've gotten to sing along to Kaze Ni Nare, so I can die a happy man.
    21 points
  9. Bryan Danielson after the PPV went off the air, apparently:
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  10. HEY! My youngest daughter got us tickets to the Rampage in Norfolk! I'm so excited! Live QT Marshall!
    20 points
  11. I might be the only one who cares, but the motherfucking BUTCHER is back baby!
    19 points
  12. What a long and tiring day going to and from Queens. 4 hour trips each way and on top of that I got home at almost 5am. I'm still exhausted and my car's brakes went on their last legs when pulling into my neighborhood. But you know what? It was all so fucking worth it. So before attempting a nap and looking into brake repairs instead of touching on the whole show I'll just mention the Danielson/Omega match. It took this match to realize why it didn't sink in that the former Daniel Bryan is now with AEW. It's because while the moves are similar they might as well be two different people. There is a chance he'll lighten up some but the way that Danielson went into his approach makes it feel like Daniel Bryan didn't exist. I know that sounds weird but that's my take on it. And because of that it felt almost like he stepped out of a time machine and had a match against arguably the best in the world. And the end result? Just absolute pure fucking magic. It did a pretty admirable job capturing the excitement of the match on TV but live it was next level. I didn't do one "Yes!" chant because I just had to hear how it all sounded. The way it reverberated throughout the stadium was like a sharp punctuation that was shouted by every single person there. It's hard to describe yet it's one of things I'll remember for the rest of my life. Arthur Ashe Stadium is perfect for a wrestling venue and they were smart to put this first with the crowd at their hottest. And as the finish was approaching I just couldn't help but start crying. Sure, I'm a softie but taking everything in it was one of those things where everything just hit like a billion bucks. Heck, even watching it on TV it's hard not to think back to last night and what that meant. I have things to say about the rest of the night but I'm going to try this nap thing people tend to do. All I know is I more than got my money's worth off this match alone and they didn't even get out of second gear. Shit, thinking about the rematch has me excited already. But for this match alone this is hands down the best night of wrestling I ever went to. It's going to take quite a lot to eclipse but I sure hope they keep doing that. Hopefully next time I go that happens so those with me can all take this in.
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  13. I didn't get home until 2am. I have a slight hangover. My students will have a free day today. AEW has filled my live wrestling yearly fix with these past 2 shows. Seeing Bryan Danielson live again was great! My first time seeing him in a bingo hall in 2002 I had no idea who he was and he lost a submission match to Low Ki. He got me into ROH and I saw his last match there in 2009 against Nigel McGuinness. I've seen him live in WWE most recently against Kofi at mania. And now seeing him again post WWE, in NYC against Kenny Omega feels like I've seen his career come full circle live. The American Dragon is back is I'm looking forward to this run in AEW more than anything else! Thank you AEW.
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  14. I'd like to thank AEW for Tweeting everyone to take mass transit, resulting in absolutely zero traffic. We made it home an hour after the main event, while the estimated train ride was FIVE hours. My voice is gone. I have never experienced live wrestling on that level. I have a ton of scattered thoughts so do bear with me Firstly: Sting. I have been waiting to see Sting since 1996, man. I cannot emphasize how happy I am to have gotten to see him. And not only was the match tremendous, but FTR wearing the NWO parody trunks for this was the icing on the cake. Everything you heard about insane lines for merch and food/drinks is true. It was crazy. At one point the stand near me ran out of beer, and they had to send a guy to another place to get it, but I dipped back to my seat because Punk was coming out. Kyle in sec 127, if you are on this board, my bad dude. Flip side of the coin: my girlfriend said twice she was alone in the ladies room... Something dope is gonna happen on Rampage but I can't figure out the tags right now. I have a lot more thoughts on the show but I absolutely cannot gather them, I'm still fired up. I'm just so incredibly happy AEW exists. Everyone there cared, everyone loves this. Like, I never went to a Raw where I made line friends who wanted to talk about how cool the mechanical doors on WCW SN sounded. And this crowd was again, just on another level. I mean the roar even being in the building was legit near- overwhelming at times. Truly blown away by this evening.
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  16. Jesus Christ you straight people are fucking insane.
    18 points
  17. “I love pro wrestling” - Tony Schiavone
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  18. BRYAN FUCKING DANIELSON!!!!!!
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  19. I love that Sting says "the going to sleep" the same way your aunt says "the Youtube" or Bret Hart says "the WCW"
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  20. It's an upper breast and thigh business.
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  21. I got to get her to wear Darby Allin make-up. I'll wear Sting 88 make-up.
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  22. Jonathan Coachman also recently mentioned that Undertaker was directed to shoot rough him up during an in-ring angle because he'd refused to go to a mandatory completely voluntary Tribute to the Troops show. Of course, years later, Taker and the guy who told him to beat up an employee are making a shit ton of money off the KSA. So to reiterate: Skipping out on bullshit post 9/11 performative patriotism: bad Taking money from the country who literally bankrolled 9/11: no problem
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  23. Robert Parker and his legendary big cock.
    16 points
  24. Or maybe AEW just isn't for you? I don't mean that to sound as condescending as it does. But me personally, I can not stand how WWE beats their viewers over the head about every single thing as if we're all first time viewers. So I love AEW not doing constant replays and doing things in hopes of keeping someone new that just clicked the wrong number on the remote. Plus we're in the digital age now. If you wanted to know more about Suzuki, take 10 seconds and type his name into a google search on your phone. At this point you not knowing about him is due to your own laziness, not AEW's presentation. The TV industry does a quick episode recap at the beginning episode. AEW did that. They did the quick recap of what happened at All Out. Beyond that if you have a question it's not out of the realm of possibility to assume you're smart enough to do a google search. Just like if I tuned into Breaking Bad season 4 episode 1 for the first time and wanted to know who Gale Boetticher was (like I just had to do to get the correct spelling).
    16 points
  25. Omg it's true. We love Wardlow. They've been so patient with this turn but it does feel like we are in the home stretch.
    16 points
  26. Tony Khan on Twitter (later, maybe): “I apologize that Kaze Ni Nare was cut off too soon. It was an outside contractor at the controls, and the whole song sounded great at rehearsal. We will never work with them again, and I will now be personally handling all music cues from this point forward.”
    16 points
  27. The Bucks/Cole kiss on the cheek spot was beautiful comedy. And even moreso beautiful for the way it surely enraged the humorless contingency on DVDVR that feel the need to make it known weekly that they hate said fantastic pro wrestlers Nick Jackson, Matt Jackson and Adam Cole.
    15 points
  28. Hearing 20,000 people chant for Homicide made me so happy. Yes, I realize that sentence looks horrible out of context but he deserved every bit of that adulation.
    15 points
  29. I didn't finish this episode yet but it's really personal to me. My brother (who used to host the aftershows for DSOTR) is also bipolar and has a HBO special about his mental health issues. It's a fucking nightmare to see the person I'm closest with in the world go through these difficulties and struggles. He's better now, but it's not like it goes away even with a good treatment plan. Bipolar is such a misunderstood disease. I'm also bipolar. There are a few different levels of bipolar. Bipolar 1 is the kind Kanyon had or what you see in TV movies -- the really wild manic swings and lengthy depressive episodes. I'm Bipolar II, which is different. I don't want to say "milder" but it doesn't come with suicide ideation or the manic episodes that last for a few weeks. It's a lot quicker, where I can get depressed for a few weeks at a time (the pandemic rules for that!) or hypomania, which is essentially an elevated mood with a lot of energy and irritability and makes me really hard to deal with. If you see some lengthy screed written on here at like 3 AM EST, that's why. The initial burst of hypomania is actually pretty helpful because I'm really productive and creative but then it becomes completely overwhelming very quickly. Anyways, I am very honest about my struggles with mental health. The stuff with Kanyon was awful because he felt like he had to hide his sexual identity on top of having his mental health issues. I learned going through what I go through that being honest about it helps me. And hopefully being honest and open about it makes the stigma of mental health issues slowly go away and makes it easier for people to get the help they need. If anyone on here needs to talk things through or find ways to get help, do not hesitate to reach out. I completely mean that.
    15 points
  30. LoC’s (Levels of Cody): Level 1: Cody is a good guy. Level 2: Cody is a good guy who’s so obnoxious at being a good guy that he’s actually a bad guy. Level 3: Cody is a good guy and is so obnoxious as a good guy, that you come back around and appreciate his desire to so badly be a good guy even though he has no idea how to actually be one Level 4: Cody is a good guy, is incredibly obnoxious as a good guy, and then realizes that fans interpret this as Level 2 Cody and not his earnest Level 3 Cody, thus actually now trending toward being a bad guy. <— WE ARE HERE
    15 points
  31. Just one more thing on Omega. People can like what they like and people can certainly not be into the modern style but TONIGHT he was arguably as good or better than a guy that is universally considered an all time great and they beat the ever-loving shit out of each other in a way that you rarely see in mainstream American wrestling. Omega was just other-worldly and to not acknowledge that strikes me as someone in ‘89’ talking about how great Steamboat is while maintaining Flair couldn’t work. To be fair, I imagine Bret Hart would make that argument but nevertheless.
    15 points
  32. Yes, they’re repackaging him as Adam Coal.
    15 points
  33. I’m not worried about this. Khan has even talked about using the big roster to cycle feuds and keep things fresh. The second biggest problem WWE has is the endless rematches and having to fill too much time, even with a lot of talent under contract. If he can afford to show restraint, give people time off to stay healthy and fresh, or use them in other roles, be it commentary or media appearances or supporting other wrestlers or what, then the product will be stronger for it.
    15 points
  34. Like a true Kentucky Gentleman.
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  35. How I imagine TK getting to the back after the show finished.
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  36. This cracked me up when I read it at 2:00am in the fucking morning.
    15 points
  37. Ive been a wrestling fan since i was 3 years old. my dad would buy wrestling videos from the local tape rental spot, and double tape what we rented so i had my copies. I watched wrestlemania 3 religiously, until wrestlemania 6 came out. Im still not totally sure why, but tonight, on multiple occasions, i smiled while watching dynamite. Smiled like I did when Steve Austin told Jake roberts he didnt have what it takes anymore. Smiled like when i saw former Razor ramon (scott hall) walk onto Nitro. Smiled like i did when Chris Jericho debuted interrupting The rock. jerry lynn vs aj styles vs Low Ki for tna. Cm Punks first pipe bomb, the list goes on. From Jim Ross praising AEW for doing charitable community work, Sting cementing the CM Punk/Darby Allin (Darby All in) match, even Tony and Jim joking about who Britt meant by big free agent, and the constant reminder to check out All Out on pay per view. this show (and several others aew has done thus far) reminded me of being a kid, watching three different wrestling programs working hard to catch my attention. i saw those three wrestling programs in this show tonight. i love pro wrestling, and i cant wait for All out. Good stuff TK.
    15 points
  38. Holy shit you guys. Kenny and the Bucks make everybody they are in the ring with look like a million dollars. This will likely be the only time they hold the belts or at least get extended runs. They were putting everybody over during their pre champ days. Just two or three weeks ago they put Daunte Martin on the map. Kenny just lost to Christian to make this backup title match more meaningful.
    15 points
  39. On the list of archetypes of people running wrestling companies, "enthusiastic socially awkward supernerd" tends to be my preference over "carny always trying to put one over on own fanbase" or "openly hostile to patrons and staff". (Actually, being the kind of person who doesn't really like to see how the sausage is made, "not applicable" would be preferred over that, but I'm aware that's simply not possible in the age where whoever is approving the direct deposits has to put themselves on camera at some point.)
    15 points
  40. Pictured: three guys who really moved the needle
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  41. YES YES YES YES YES YES
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