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  1. There were some hit or miss Clash of the Champions shows, but that last one was an argument for keeping those shows. How many events end with Kevin Nash feigning hitting a bird?
  2. There was a long stretch in like 1996/1997 where anytime some combination of the Steiners, Mongo/Benoit, and the Faces of Fear were in the ring together, motherfuckers were getting ragdolled and dropped on their head. It was incredible.
  3. It's kinda amazing how the worm has turned for Garbrandt if that's the right phrase to use. I mean I expecting some of his issues (from his amateur MMA days) to rear their head at some point in his UFC tenure. I was honestly surprised when he got past Thomas Almeida, but Almeida himself is barely hanging on by a string to stay in the UFC. It's possible for good fighters to have great nights. Garbrandt had two or three (defends on if you saw Mizugaki still as a stalwart from WEC at that time) in a row. It's not like he is totally physically shot. At 28 going on 29, it's very possible he can do it again. Mind you that a man that failed USADA tests and had to sit out two years because of it account for two of Garbrandt's UFC losses. Alistair Overeem has been knocked out a dozen times...still around and competing. And if you look at the current crop of bantamweights post-Cejudo retirement/sabbatical, not exactly murderers' row. Yeah, it won't be super easy for Garbrandt because he does have liabilities. However, I'm surprised he's getting treated like old news.
  4. UFC 250: Nunes vs. Spencer June 6, 2020 Las Vegas, NV (UFC APEX) UFC Women's Featherweight Championship: Amanda Nunes © vs. Felicia Spencer (first defense) Raphael Assunção vs. Cody Garbrandt Aljamain Sterling vs. Cory Sandhagen Neil Magny vs. Tony Martin Eddie Wineland vs. Sean O'Malley ESPN/ESPN+ Preliminary Card: Alex Caceres vs. Chase Hooper Ian Heinisch vs. Gerald Meerschaert Cody Stamann vs. Brian Kelleher Charles Byrd vs. Maki Pitolo Fight Pass/ESPN+ Preliminary Card: Alex Perez vs. Jussier Formiga Alonzo Menifield vs. Devin Clark Evan Dunham vs. Herbert Burns Event Bonuses ($50,000) Performance of the Night: Performance of the Night: Fight of the Night:
  5. THE ROCK N ROLL EXPRESS IN 1996 AND THE RENEGADE~! I feel this is an instance where the moniker ATM Eric is warranted.
  6. I mean in the past they (meaning the UFC) could siphon heavyweights from the Eastern European scene and a bunch of NFL washouts. They could get guys off the regional scene who seemed promising. There is just less and less of those guys out there. I thought Chi Lewis-Parry was going to be a savior because he had the skills and the charisma. Turns out he was more bark than bite. Then, he was closed to signing with the UFC at the tail end of last year and it never happened. He's already 36. Plus, he has a history of not getting along with organizations (see Glory Kickboxing) he's fighting for. He is very outspoken. That's not a good recipe for fighting for the UFC. That fight could only end with Derrick escaping an no-gi Ezekiel choke or two and then knocking Alexey out with like 2 seconds left in the fifth in an otherwise bowling shoe ugly matchup. Ngannou is basically an elevated version of what boxing had fifteen years ago with Samuel Peter, and it's not just because both are from sub-Saharan Africa. He was the closest thing to a young Tyson that boxing had for awhile. He almost won a title eliminator against Wladimir after having him badly hurt (BTW that was main event and the co-main was one of my favorite brutal boxing wars of all time, Miguel Cotto vs. late sub Ricardo Torres) and then eventually wins a piece of the heavyweight title only to lose it to the returning Vitali Klitschko in his first defense. Sam wasn't so much a so called mental midget, but when asked to do something out of the ordinary, he could never put it together. If you meet Ngannou in the middle like two rams butting heads, yeah, he's likely to win that. However, even if you test him through trying to grind away, he still has that great eraser. I doubt he fights the Derrick Lewis fight the same way. Cain Velasquez was way too physically depreciated to really offer Ngannou any resistance, although, I still give Ngannou credit for that win. I originally thought Cormier was a real bad matchup for him, but then, he went and got himself knocked out by Stipe. It's very difficult for a guy like DC, especially having already made up his mind about retiring, to recover from something like that. For Stipe, he basically has to go in there and repeat his same performance from UFC 220 with no margin for error. That itself is extremely difficult. So unlike with Sam Peter, there is a doorway where Ngannou can be around being able to fight like he usually does and not break a sweat because no one can truly test him like that again. He has recreated that aura around himself. My issues with Curtis Blaydes' chances is in the first fight, he took too much punishment. He took it well for a guy going against that type of firepower, but you don't want a young fighter in that situation early in his career. To his credit, he bounced back. In the second fight, he got hit once and it was over. He's a good puncher, but his bread and butter is still wrestling. That's his only avenue unless Ngannou just regresses as a fighter, which I think is more important than Ngannou making appreciable improvements. Two different looking fights...same outcome.
  7. If Alexey Oleneik becomes a champion in his what? Fifth decade as a fighter? I think that might be a good excuse to shutter the division. You're not topping that shit.
  8. Would they put the Lucha Bros with walking heat magnet Vickie Guerrero?
  9. And I don't want to count out Stipe cause he managed to avenge that loss and also held up considerably well compared to other fighters who have been in the UFC this long. However, he's averaging like a fight a year. Plus, all this feels like the end of era especially with Werdum losing and then JDS losing before that. Ok, you can keep Arlovski facing low level fringe UFC heavyweights as @supremebve proposed so then that solves that problem. Overeem can still win fights here and there. Rothwell and Oleneik are still trudging along, but they're not real contenders. Even if COVID-19 had never happened, none of those guys feel like that this is just going to be their year. All of those guys are relics now. And speaking of bygone eras, since boxing isn't returning in some form until another week or two, I've been watching a whole bunch of old fights. One from the other day was Tony "TNT" Tubbs vs. Tim Witherspoon for the WBA version of the heavyweight title in January 1986 with Tubbs as the incumbent champion after unseating Greg Page the prior April. Tubbs, who generally came in no higher than 220ish, came in well out of shape at 244 for his first title defense against Witherspoon. Witherspoon had already held the WBC title after winning the vacant title against Page two years prior. However, he lost in his first defense against Pinklon Thomas. Prior to that he had flirted with almost beating Larry Holmes for the same title in 1983. I say all this to say that the fight itself, which was not the worst fight I've seen but still ugly as hell, was a microcosm of the heavyweight division for the last several years after Ali retired when he avenged the loss to Leon Spinks (and then promptly came back for more money). Holmes was a pretty damn good long reigning champion, but there was a whole host of guys who really didn't stand out from each other in the late 70s/early 80s. You had those guys listed above as well as Renaldo Snipes, Quick Tillis, the other Tony TNT in Tony Tucker, Bonecrusher Smith, Gerrie Coetzee, Mike Weaver, Big John Tate, Carl Williams, Duane Bobick, Trevor Berbick, Jerry Williams, David Bey, etc. You had the Great White Hope in Gerry Cooney. James "Buster" Douglas is around as sort of an also ran. Tyrell Biggs became a pro in 84 after winning Olympic gold that same year. Plenty of those guys were good, solid fighters, but you never thought any of those guys were going to put together a sustained run. As such, some of those guys traded those titles several times in a very short span. Add in the creation of the IBF in 1983, and it quickly gaining credibility as an alphabet organization. So you got "three" world champions (at the time of Tubbs/Witherspoon for the WBA, Michael Spinks as IBF champ/linear champ and Pinklon Thomas as WBC champ two months before losing it to Berbick) with no serious weight behind any of them. They were planning to do a tournament to crown an undisputed champion, but what would throw a monkey wrench into those plans was the fucking godsend and phenomenon called Mike Tyson in the same year of 1986. And after watching the fifteen round mess of Witherspoon upsetting Tubbs for the WBA title, Tyson couldn't have came any sooner. You're just watching one guy in Witherspoon show he is slightly better than the other guy in Tony Tubbs, who came in ridiculously out of shape. I'm saying this as someone who liked Witherspoon as a fighter FWIW. As a viewer watching a fight for the supposed heavyweight title, you expect more than that. I think the great Barry Tompkins, who was the PBP guy for HBO prior to Lampley, summed it up succinctly at the end of the broadcast. Tompkins declared, "Witherspoon showed up with something left in the tank. Tubbs?....Well, he just had the tank." That's the perfect encapsulation for what they didn't know at the time was a transition era. That's how I feel about Stipe vs. DC III. Even if the fight is exciting just like the first two, it's going to be hard for anyone to believe that is indicative for the future of the UFC heavyweight division.
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