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  1. Sexual Assault and Harassment in Hollywood

    I feel weird clicking the "like" button on posts where someone is pouring their heart out over terrible things that have happened to them, but I see you @SorceressKnight.
  2. Sexual Assault and Harassment in Hollywood

    As an aside to the Dushku story: It seems HIGHLY irresponsible to me that a 12 year old was even being put in a position doing a stunt where she could break her ribs if something went wrong in the first place.
  3. Sexual Assault and Harassment in Hollywood

    What's weird is it really seems to me like everybody in this thread agrees on this (that Aziz's actions were wrong). I've yet to see one person suggest what happened was okay. And yet we're still finding ways to argue about it!
  4. Sexual Assault and Harassment in Hollywood

    Yeah, I like this one. The Atlantic came out with a pretty strong take of their own today. It's...problematic, I think, but there are some good points, too. Calling the story "3,000 words of revenge porn" has a certain ring of truth to it.
  5. Sexual Assault and Harassment in Hollywood

    Yeah, it's tipping that way. What's really bad is that the Aziz story has soaked up all the attention, not just in this thread but the media and greater cultural conversation, when it should be going to the Eliza Dushku story, which is unequivocally heinous and everything MeToo is supposed to be about. At the very least, that guy should be run out of town on a rail. The very least.
  6. Sexual Assault and Harassment in Hollywood

    Is Burgandy seriously trying to claim that she's suffering abuse in this thread when SHE'S the one who busted in here tossing around unprovoked ad hominem attacks on any men who don't agree with her? Dare I say, "flippantly" insinuating that we're all closet creeps? Seriously? And apparently, I'm the asshole for keeping my cool and trying to help her understand how poorly she approached this situation if her goal was to actually foster a productive conversation, as opposed to going with my first impulse when a total stranger accuses me of being sex criminal, which is "Go fuck yourself."

    Rumors are that Hugh Freeze is looking to sign on for Extreme Disgraced Coach Makeover Season 2 at Alabama.
  8. Sexual Assault and Harassment in Hollywood

    There are many reasons why this topic is almost impossible to talk about. Among them is the bolded portion of the above post. You come in this thread and the first thing you lay down is "If you disagree with me, it's probably because you've been a shitbag to women, too!" And then the very next sentence, you try to step back and sip your fucking tea like Kermit the frog. How is that a basis for a conversation at all?
  9. Sexual Assault and Harassment in Hollywood

    I feel like this is a fair point, but I would point out that, in all that she said (and she said quite a lot), I don't recall her saying that she felt unsafe or threatened or physically intimidated in any way. Hard to believe she'd leave that out, amongst all the other details she offered up, if that was the case. So...probably not applicable to this particular case?
  10. Sexual Assault and Harassment in Hollywood

    I think if you read the rest of my posts on the subject, you'll find that I in no way found this to be fine and dandy. From my very first comment, I made clear that I thought this was a bad thing that happened because, first and foremost, he behaved badly. My only position has been that something can be a bad sexual encounter without also being an assault, or even having the potential to escalate into an assault.
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    Bingo. Equating pestering someone for sex with rape is just the most 2018 bullshit. Something can be bad without needing to equate it with some truly evil shit. But today, everybody's impulse seems to be to reach straight for the top shelf, to carry everything to the extreme. You only have so many characters to make your point after all.
  12. Sexual Assault and Harassment in Hollywood

    No, it couldn't have, because he was obviously not trying to rape her or assault her in any way.

    Yes, take him, please.
  14. Sexual Assault and Harassment in Hollywood

    Unfortunately, all it takes is a story from a prestigious publication like babe.net to set off a #MeToo tweetstorm that will label someone as a sex creep forever.
  15. Sexual Assault and Harassment in Hollywood

    Even if we assume all this is true, what happened here? She consented to taking their clothes off. She consented to oral sex, going both ways, on multiple occasions. She consented to hanging out at his apartment naked for, apparently, hours. When she did pump the brakes on intercourse, it was always couched in terms of the timing not being right. It was "let's slow down" and "gimme a sec" and "not now." I don't think the guy could be faulted for thinking the woman lounging around his place in the nude was eventually going to be up for sex if he kept expressing interest. He was definitely overly pushy about it, and the deal with cramming his fingers in her mouth is icky and bizarre, but at no point does he force himself on her or threaten her or try to stop her from leaving. In fact, when she's finally had enough, he offers to get her a car. Arguably the worst thing he makes her do is watch an episode of Seinfeld. This was a bad sexual encounter, but it was not an assault of any kind. He's not a predator, and she's not a victim. They're just two people who each made bad choices, as we are wont to do, and things went badly. Once upon a time, you chalked it up to experience and made better choices in the future. Now, it's headline news if you can find a website to publish it (spoiler: you can). I do think this story raises interesting questions about how our traditional gender roles in courtship can lead to this sort of bad encounter, though. The standard trope is that the women withhold and it's up to the man to doggedly pursue them, even if they seem to be feigning disinterest or putting them off. That gets highly problematic when it carries over into sex, though, and can lead to men who would generally be considered "nice guys" fucking up and making bad choices.