cubbymark Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 1 hour ago, The Natural said: Does Darby Allin like turtles? 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryArchieGus Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, Casey said: I doubt Mance and/or Cornette get to AEW TV while they're still with MLW. Court is enforcing his little bullshit contracts pretty hard now. Orange Cassidy strikes me as a Joey Ryan type - he rather be a big fish in a small pond, rather than get lost in the shuffle among a roster with bigger names. I can see him coming back a few times here and there, but signing a contract and being full time with AEW? I don't know about all of that. I also don't agree with "small time indie star". I'd argue he's one of the top names on the indies right now. I'm perfectly okay with him staying in Beyond and the like, but I wouldn't be exactly upset either, if he signed a contract with AEW. I absolutely love that the gimmick and his matches piss a lot of people off, particularly older fans/wrestlers. That fills me with great joy. I’m having a tough time believing any issue from MLW isn’t a work. The fact that Aew is currently allowing them to use MJF without any issue makes me assume there are some talks with agreements being reached. As to OC/Joey Ryan - OCs gimmick is possible to show on tv without fear of losing sponsors. Further, Ryan being close with the evps, there’s no way he doesn’t show up shortly. Not that I want to see it, but I’m confident they’ll make adjustments to make his act presentable and less ridiculous. So to Cassidy. 40 minutes ago, hammerva said: I will say that AEW has some great shirts. Shame you probably have to go to Pro Wrestling Tees in order to get them. Don't really like that place I think Orange Cassidy works if you EXPLAIN him to people. Just putting him out there like in the battle royal with Dreamer did nothing for him. I believe 2 years ago he did one of those mini Ken Johnson (?) short documentaries that explains why he wrestles the way he currently does. if they show that and do actual segments with him then I could work. But nobody knows how much of this TV show will be built around building characters or just have good matches. as much as Elite fans will hate to hear this, there early TV shows should really look the current IMPACT product As somebody who tried to watch an episode of Impact and could not make it thru without skipping nearly entire segments, matches and promos, and whom found very little to enjoy of the stuff I did see, I absolutely disagree that they should look or mimic anything about that extremely mediocre product. But maybe I’m missing what you’re getting at? As for OC, what’s to explain? But yes, a promo would be fine. I’m not big on commentators explaining the obvious but a good commentator would certainly fill in any blanks. Edited July 31, 2019 by HarryArchieGus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragonzombie Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 12 hours ago, clintthecrippler said: Side tangent: is anyone here familiar with how the Japanese smark/hardcore fan community views modern product? Are there fans that think things like DDT, BJPW deathmatches, and Great Sasuke's Space War matches are ruining wrestling. I know theres been the Inokism romanticism in recent years regarding modern NJPW, but is that a Western hardcore fan trend or is that happening amongst older Japanese fans as well. There's some fans who do. But most lasped fans just stick to the old stuff they liked or simply moved on. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammerva Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 17 minutes ago, HarryArchieGus said: IAs somebody who tried to watch an episode of Impact and could not make it thru without skipping nearly entire segments, matches and promos, and whom found very little to enjoy of the stuff I did see, I absolutely disagree that they should look or mimic anything about that extremely mediocre product. But maybe I’m missing what you’re getting at? . I think it was more the concept than the actual product. Like I don't see the WWE really doing the segments like they did building up LAX/Rascalz & Kross/Edwards angles for their last PPV. All of the WWE stuff was built in the ring and maybe the awful backstage stuff. I guess what I am trying to say is AEW needs a strong mix between their "Road to" youtube shows and actual wrestling.. Maybe we will see that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 In addition to Cody/Guevara on the first episode of their TNT show, they also just announced Omega & The Bucks versus Jericho and two mystery partners. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infinit Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 I still don't get Marko Stunt. It was embarrassing and unbelievable when regular size competitors had to sell for Hornswaggle and I don't see how this is any different. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammerva Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 (edited) Unless there is a major defection, I would be 95% sure that it is the Lucha Brothers. Especially since jericho did that whole mask gimmick at last show. Edited July 31, 2019 by hammerva Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSC Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 There's no point in not saying it's the Lucha Bros if it's going to be the Lucha Bros. If you're saying you're gonna have two mystery partners for Chris Jericho on the first TNT show, you better knock it out of the park or people are gonna shit all over that. While awesome, Lucha Bros against the Young Bucks yet again is not knocking it out of the park. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HumanChessgame Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 1 hour ago, hammerva said: I think Orange Cassidy works if you EXPLAIN him to people. Just putting him out there like in the battle royal with Dreamer did nothing for him. I believe 2 years ago he did one of those mini Ken Johnson (?) short documentaries that explains why he wrestles the way he currently does. if they show that and do actual segments with him then I could work. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nofuture Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 My guess would be LAX. Wouldn't really make sense having two guys already on the roster as mystery partners. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryArchieGus Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 Also, pretty certain Jericho was wearing a creeper mask associated with the mighty Dark Order. That said, LAX debut on the first show would be a nice little surprise. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 Yeah, he was wearing a creeper mask. He did the Pentagon mask at All In last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 35 minutes ago, Casey said: In addition to Cody/Guevara on the first episode of their TNT show, they also just announced Omega & The Bucks versus Jericho and two mystery partners. Match graphic: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Cincinnati Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 He'll be teaming with two Christopher Daniels. 3 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flair’s Shadow Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 Chris Jericho’s mystery partners: Rusev + _____? Two other names out there of PAC and Jack Hager don’t make sense here in this spot. When PAC makes his debut it will be with an angle with Hangman Page. Hager doesn’t make sense with Rusev. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nice Guy Eddie Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 2 hours ago, cubbymark said: Does Darby Allin like turtles? I remember discovering this gem thanks to the Opie & Anthony show circa 2007-2008. I love how the kid completely no-sells what she's asking him about. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nice Guy Eddie Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 My guess is either LAX or the Dark Order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxB Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 30 minutes ago, West Newbury Bad Boy said: He'll be teaming with two Christopher Daniels. Curry Man and Suicide would be a hell of a team. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Octopus Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 Marty Scrull and Glacier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig H Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 I like the idea of it being Pac and someone else. Not Hager though. Can't stand him. BTW, I love their match graphics. They always look like fighting game matchup screens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig H Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 Oh man, Scurll actually works really well if he's one of the mystery partners. They could play it up as the Elite leaving Scurll behind and now he's here for revenge. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxB Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 Shame they can't get Adam Cole to be the other one, then. Marty was just abandoned, Cole was literally murdered. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEN! Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 Jericho's partners should absolutely be The Dark Order and their new gimmicks of El Hijo del Ralphus and Jerichoholic Ninja II: The Grayson. 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyLaw Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 2 hours ago, Flair’s Shadow said: Chris Jericho’s mystery partners: Rusev + _____? Two other names out there of PAC and Jack Hager don’t make sense here in this spot. Hager doesn’t make sense with Rusev. All it would take is Jericho or JR saying, “These two men have a lot of history, but Jericho’s got them on the same page.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryArchieGus Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 (edited) I'm not really aware of how a one shot a month MLW contract works, but the Harts would be a nice choice - any 2 of 3. Not sure, even with reports of good behaviour, that you wanna take a chance on Teddy (still wrestles like the purpose is to get his same spots in), but Harry and Pillman Jr could work well behind Lionheart. Edited July 31, 2019 by HarryArchieGus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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