SirSmUgly Posted June 10, 2018 Posted June 10, 2018 Corey Graves is lame for airing this shit out on Twitter, Punk is lame because, I mean, look at that dude, but ultimately, I don't think attributing Punk's loss to "Punk didn't return my phone calls" is either accurate or warranted. A dude doesn't want to be friends with you anymore. Get over it instead of getting in your feelings and going on Twitter like a jilted boyfriend. 1
JohnnyJ Posted June 10, 2018 Posted June 10, 2018 My impression is Punk was a mentor and an inspiration to many in the industry which led to a lot of hurt feelings when he closed the door. He's also the guy who never made it a secret he was a temperamental miserable dick who played around with the idea of getting up and leaving. It's complicated. 4
Victator Posted June 10, 2018 Posted June 10, 2018 48 minutes ago, Smelly McUgly said: A dude doesn't want to be friends with you anymore. Get over it instead of getting in your feelings and going on Twitter like a jilted boyfriend. Why? Why can't he work thru this the way that is best to him. "Get Over It" is the worst fucking phrase. As if people don't try to recover after bad things; It comes from people who prefer others suffer in silence. That is not even related to Graves or Punk, its just normal stupid shit people say. 7 1
Matt D Posted June 10, 2018 Posted June 10, 2018 This comes off as a big brother/little brother thing more than anything else. I still wish we had Zayn as Authority Bryan and Graves as Authority Punk back in January of 2014.
Craig H Posted June 10, 2018 Posted June 10, 2018 13 minutes ago, JohnnyJ said: My impression is Punk was a mentor and an inspiration to many in the industry which led to a lot of hurt feeling when he closed the door. He's also the guy who never made it a secret he was a temperamental miserable dick who played around with the idea of getting up and leaving. It's complicated. You summed it up way better than I could and in far less words.
BrianS81177 Posted June 10, 2018 Posted June 10, 2018 1 hour ago, RIPPA said: Punk hasn't talked to me since I banned him from the board You magnificent bastard. I legitimately laughed out loud at work reading that. 2
(BP) Posted June 10, 2018 Posted June 10, 2018 There are guys I worked with at my last job that were in my wedding that I see a couple of times a year now. Some of it's just hectic schedules, but there's something to be said for work-related friendships, even good ones, dissolving after the biggest thing that the parties had in common is no longer there. Anyway, I don't like 30+ year-old dudes on twitter proclaiming what is or isn't Punk Rock behavior and I kind of feel bad for Punk because his punches looked like those ones you have in nightmares when you have to defend yourself and you can't hurt your attacker at all. 2
SirSmUgly Posted June 10, 2018 Posted June 10, 2018 23 minutes ago, Victator said: Why? Why can't he work thru this the way that is best to him. "Get Over It" is the worst fucking phrase. As if people don't try to recover after bad things; It comes from people who prefer others suffer in silence. That is not even related to Graves or Punk, its just normal stupid shit people say. Because doing this online is fucking tacky? Your personal pain is not something to be worked out in "the way best to you" because sometimes, those ways are destructive or immature. Going online and shitting on a former friend because he doesn't call you anymore after he loses a fight is pathetic. I expect better from an adult. 1
John from Cincinnati Posted June 10, 2018 Posted June 10, 2018 6 minutes ago, (BP) said: I kind of feel bad for Punk because his punches looked like those ones you have in nightmares when you have to defend yourself and you can't hurt your attacker at all. Most of my nightmare deaths involve drowning. Maybe I'll have more to say if Punk tries out for the Olympic swim team next. 2
Tromatagon Posted June 11, 2018 Posted June 11, 2018 Mine usually involve getting eaten by monsters or getting blown up by Cobra. You guys are weird. 2 3
JohnnyJ Posted June 11, 2018 Posted June 11, 2018 My worst nightmare typically involves having lousy looking punches or trying to work around being stuck with a crap finisher like the zigzag.
COLETTI Posted June 11, 2018 Posted June 11, 2018 A few years ago, one of the more infamous bands out of this area - composed of many good friends of mine and others in the scene - had this great lineup with this BOSS drummer dude. Good times, good shows, but a shit ton of alcohol was involved, and drummer dude eventually quit the band and got sober. Dude needed it, he was a wreck, and shit, he THRIVED in sobriety. Everyone around thought it was great that he got his act together... but then dude started talking soooooo much shit about everybody he used to claim as a friend, and in as public of forums as possible. He got on this high horse and shat all over every relationship he had. It was truly a douchey, obnoxious thing to do, and completely unnecessary. Lots of people were hurt, he fucked up a friend's wedding, and really, nobody had a kind word for him anymore, and deservedly so. Have any of us put him on blast publicly? Nah, but even if somebody did, even in a kind of immature way, you can bet a whole lot of us would still be nodding our heads in agreement. Graves picked a lame way to air his grievance but I bet soooooo many of his peers are happy SOMEBODY said something. 1
Hagan Posted June 11, 2018 Posted June 11, 2018 Super didactic, but CM Punk's reign wasn't a record in any way and Brock has a different belt anyway. Punk being the "longest champion of the 'modern era'" or the "longest reigning champion since Randy Savage" is just made up corporate-babble. It was like when Floyd fought Conor and people were talking about him "beating the record Rocky Marciano set" as if no other fighter had ever gone 50-0 or if Rocky had any record.
FluffSnackwell Posted June 11, 2018 Posted June 11, 2018 I always hated those "sandbags for arms while throwing punches" nightmares. This reminds me that a few weeks ago I had some goofy dream where Roman Reigns was on the Dan LeBatard Show, Stugotz had apparently come into possession of a Money In The Bank briefcase, hit Reigns with the title belt, DDT'ed the motherfucker on a chair, and pinned him to win the Intercontinental Title. Or maybe the Intercontinental Title was under some super secret clause where select media members could challenge for it under the old Hardcore Title rules. I attribute it to my hatred of both as well as some leftover mental residue from the utter shittyness of John Stewart's Summerslam cameo and pathetic excuse for a chairshot.
FluffSnackwell Posted June 11, 2018 Posted June 11, 2018 It was contrived dogshit because if they were doing things organically, Ryback should've won the belt in that cage match whether he only kept the title for a day or until the next pay-per-view. Then you can still run the same ladder match Ryback and Punk had the next night on Raw or even a Last Man Standing match where the Shield incapacitate Ryback to help Punk get the belt back, and then run Punk/Rock at the Royal Rumble. The only good thing to come out of that whole lame mess was getting the Shield over as royal shit disturbers. At some point, Punk became every other generic chickenshit heel champion and worst of all it was known well beforehand that Rock was going to take the belt off him at the Royal Rumble. Now most of that was due to the WWE's inflexibility about their plans to have Cena/Rock II be for a World Title at WrestleMania, but Ryback got screwed far worse in the whole deal by being skipped over than Punk and his phony baloney longest modern title reign where he had to keep the belt warm for the Rock. 2
Victator Posted June 11, 2018 Posted June 11, 2018 5 hours ago, Smelly McUgly said: Because doing this online is fucking tacky? Your personal pain is not something to be worked out in "the way best to you" because sometimes, those ways are destructive or immature. Going online and shitting on a former friend because he doesn't call you anymore after he loses a fight is pathetic. I expect better from an adult. There was nothing really destructive or immature about it though. Well actually it might be destructive if he gets blow back at work.
PetrolCB Posted June 11, 2018 Posted June 11, 2018 14 minutes ago, Victator said: There was nothing really destructive or immature about it though. Well actually it might be destructive if he gets blow back at work. Yeah, if Vince knew about it then, he’s already forgotten about it now. He’s preoccupied on making Reigns/Jinder tonight, better than Omega/Okada from Saturday. (I haven’t seen it. I’m just being snarky.) 1
Nice Guy Eddie Posted June 11, 2018 Posted June 11, 2018 6 hours ago, West Newbury Bad Boy said: Most of my nightmare deaths involve drowning. Maybe I'll have more to say if Punk tries out for the Olympic swim team next. 3 3
caley Posted June 11, 2018 Posted June 11, 2018 I was just thinking to myself, "Wait, was Money in the Bank tonight?!" but then I remembered Raw and Smackdown didn't have people randomly climbing ladders to deliver promos in the most inorganic way possible and neither episode ended with someone who has no prayer of winning sitting on top of a ladder holding a briefcase. 1 2
BurningBeard Posted June 11, 2018 Posted June 11, 2018 8 hours ago, (BP) said: I kind of feel bad for Punk because his punches looked like those ones you have in nightmares when you have to defend yourself and you can't hurt your attacker at all. I've had that dream so many times, and it's been so long since I boxed or was in a fight, that I actually doubt whether I can throw a punch any more. I don't particularly like Punk, as much as I enjoyed his work, but I can kinda understand where he's coming from by distancing himself from everyone in WWE. As paranoid as it sounds, you're one comment away from someone then stooging you to the office and Graves kind of proved the point by tagging Vince and Triple H in his twitter whinge. As far as the 'fight' I do hope Punk, having had a serious beating, gets over his delusions now and stops trying to be PETE 2K18. There's something weird about a guy getting upset in court watching himself be concussed only to then walk into the octagon three days later and get his face rearranged. 2
Brian Fowler Posted June 11, 2018 Posted June 11, 2018 I'm so weirded out by WWE.com having an article up about the New Day vs The Elite Street Fighter thing. 1
Niners Fan in CT Posted June 11, 2018 Posted June 11, 2018 14 hours ago, Betsy Zeidler said: Dude should've never been in an MMA match at all, he's showing all the signs of CTE. I don't know he seems like he's been rubbing people the wrong way for decades. 1 1
Niners Fan in CT Posted June 11, 2018 Posted June 11, 2018 I do think it's funny that after all these years Triple H seems to be a good dude and Punk is still Punk. Back in 2011 (and earlier) you'd swear Hunter was a serial killer the way people online talked about him. 1
Casey Posted June 11, 2018 Posted June 11, 2018 I mean, Punk has advertised himself in the past as a sociopathic jerk, so... I don't know. Maybe this is a case of Punk being Graves' best friend, but that relationship doesn't go both ways. It's entirely possible the friendship meant more to Graves than it did Punk, since he easily dumped their friendship to the wayside and left it behind. I'm sure that's hard to reconcile with, but it's been four years. I've gotten over deaths in quicker amounts of time than it's taken Graves to come to the realization that maybe he just wasn't that important to CM Punk.
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