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  1. The business side of sports stuff is so prevalent because there are so many mediums devoted to the sports talk format and people need to talk about something. It's one of the same reasons our politics are such mess. There's such a need for a content and the same points just get regurgitated over and over again. The result of this is mainstream stories tend to get overreported and everything else gets underreported. Because of this constant reporting of player's salaries and collective bargaining agreements, it gives rise to the perception that the worker's rights of people making large salaries are of concern to the average person. They're not the most sympathetic figures. In most industries, workers barely have any rights and are paid like crap. People encounter far far far worse abuses in everyday life than what WWE pulls, even if we all know it's a bunch of b.s. Yes, it's ridiculous that WWE doesn't provide health insurance, but at least wrestlers are compensated halfway decent and can afford their own health insurance. This is the reason nobody has taken on the machine in court. What's the end game of spending hundreds of thousands of dollars in attorney fees? To be at odds with the company who is paying you many more times than what you would make anywhere else? At the end of the day, it's a business.
  2. For something that has been in the works months, there was definitely a 1992 Bill Watts vibe to Punks return.
  3. Anyone have an idea what a lower card act makes from being on the road vs. the downside guarantee?
  4. ...and speaking of innocent children stuck in cages and living in their own filth.... MeUndies will come right to your door or cage with the most comfortable set of underwear. Use promo code NOSHAME for 20% off.
  5. Rollins isn't over now because despite being consistently pushed for years, he was really never that over. He's a product of a change in philosophy in the company that took place a few years back. Traditionally, in order to earn a sustained push you need to be drawing. At some point drawing power no longer mattered. The same players would be pushed and featured no matter what. This left WWE with a generation of performers at the top of the card nobody asked for. Now that Rollins is in the role of top guy for the promotion, he was destined to fall on his face.
  6. I think about this a lot and how it flies in the face of how WWE does things. A generational talent could get signed tomorrow and he/she would spend the next 6 months to a year sitting in developmental waiting to debut on NXT. Then the next 1-2 years in NXT waiting to get the call. If the fans take to him/her add a year so NXT has someone to headline Takeovers. When they do move up to the main roster, unless the office sees you as a top talent you're lucky to get stuck in 50/50 midcard hell. It's a process that is pointless and actually hurts the chances that the generational talent will ever become anything. Meanwhile, AEW comes out of the gate with a Darby Allin type and with a simple message; he's young, he's exciting, and you should care about him. He jumped through 3 years of b.s. and if by unlikely chance he is that generational talent he has the opportunity to get noticed as one.
  7. Without going through the laundry list of reasons, I put a lot of thought into whether or not WWE has effectively killed the town. Whether a series of band aids have disguised just how bad it is and what, if anything, would engage the audience. Putting blame on Vince is certainly valid, but simply getting rid of him wont magically make good television. So, what needs to happen?
  8. What is surprising to me about Fox Smackdown is the sameyness of it all. The deal was announced over a year ago. Plenty of money has been thrown around (Fury, Velazquez, and a rumored Punk) and yet it feels like they put lipstick on a pig. The tired format is the same.
  9. Is polo shirt Jack Swagger cool? Like, in a I’m so cool, I buy my gear in the Kohl’s men’s section sorta way?
  10. Without really even getting into issues with the product, what really drove me away was the increase in programming. It was not that long ago that Raw was a two-hour show that with a DVR you could get through in an hour. Smackdown was b-level content with replays of the highlights from Raw that was largely skippable unless there was a match with a little buzz. Monthly ppvs were usually a pass for me unless something big was happening (who was coming up with $60 to pay for these things?). So even when things were lousy (and they usually were), the time commitment of a fan to follow everything that was going on was 1 to 2 hours per week. That seems like a reasonable amount of time to expect a fan to follow a tv show. Now it seems like the requirements to follow everything have perhaps tripled or even quadrupled. It's quicksand. It can feel completely overwhelming to keep up with everything. And it's not like you are rewarded. It's the same lazy content with a little magic mixed in it always was except now you need to treat it like a job. So, while I still watch highlights and will continue to do so, unless WWE starts cutting down on content, I will never be a full-time watcher again.
  11. The dynamic between Reigns and the office never made any sense. You have to examine the essence of why the authority figure is evil. They are evil because they have an objective which differs from the fans. Traditionally, they are profit motivated and will rail against someone unconventional who is risky on the top of the card. Reigns was an entirely conventional choice and it was common knowledge that WWE wanted Roman as the face of the company. If that is the case, why are they against him succeeding? Don't they want him to get over and headline all of their shows?
  12. Eventually you have to reap what you sow. The Reigns/Rollins/Brock era came about at a time where WWE started making more money than ever before even though classic indicators for success (ppv revenue, house show attendance, ratings) were going down. Fans did everything in their power to voice that the crop of stars WWE stubbornly kept on trying to market were not clicking. They basically stopped showing up outside of the major shows. So now you have a generation of top guys who nobody wants to pay to see and have limited mainstream appeal.
  13. I would take Jilted Lover Jericho any day over Segue into Commercial Jericho.
  14. I wonder what is causing all of this now. Vince is the same as he always was. Is it simply AEW?
  15. The reason Bryan v. Reigns still gets talked about so much is it was an indicator of what a post-Cena world was going to look like. Forget the discussion of Bryan's marketability, it was really a question of whether WWE would go with what was actually connecting vs. what they wanted. Cena spoiled WWE. He could drum up a program with just about anyone on the roster in a segment and whether people liked him or hated him he always connected. They took for granted that other performers were going to connect in the same way. That has not happened. We're now several years into the post-Cena WWE. They've spent years pushing Lesnar, Reigns and Rollins on the audience. There is almost no interest in the main event programs.
  16. What is interesting about this particular moment in wrestling and I'm sure is what is getting in the way of some of these releases, is traditionally if WWE treated someone like a low-level C-program performer, it would be almost impossible for them to redeem themselves. Yet today due to how Vince values talent and a gigantic roster of enormously talented individuals, a lot of cream is no longer rising to the top. In the past if a lower mid-card guy switches promotions (think Paul Roma or Hercules) you could try shooting them to the top of the card, but it would make the promotion look ridiculous. The rules have changed. So you'll have someone like Luke Harper who can't even get on the main shows who would be near the top of the card in another promotion.
  17. Back in 2012 I decided it was time to be a grownup and start investing. I did what all the “experts” told me to do and put 90% of the money I was investing into index funds. The rest I invested in WWE because it was so cheap, had a healthy dividend and for funsies I wanted to say I was a part owner of WWE. It was the best investment I will ever make. Some random mid-carder who got in at the right time must’ve made a fortune.
  18. I could see the Moxley vid being made by WWE. Who knows. Something doesn't add up about his exit from the company. Regardless, a 2 minutes clip made Ambrose more interesting than he has been in several years. Bringing the discussion back to what troubles WWE, oversaturation is the real killer. Not only does it cause decreased interest, but it makes it that much harder to tell simple stories and WWE is not capable of pulling off anything complex. If there is a multi-faceted storyline (the rise of DBry) it is almost accidental. How simple is the Dustin v. Cody story? They literally sold the match in 5 minutes. No in-ring promo segments where they point to the titan-tron to catch everyone up. No multi-mans where the two wrestlers already face off before the actual match. Yet WWE could not figure out how to run Dustin v. Cody. If ever there was an indictment of how WWE does things, this would be it.
  19. Now that Bayley is implicated can we get a few pages of Bayley bashing too? I’ll start. She dresses like a 5 year old.
  20. Alexa gave an interview (Lillian Garcia pod) about her time in developmental and explained that she was more or less an outcast. She didn't know how to wrestle and the women weren't especially helpful in guiding her along. It must be a very strange dynamic nowadays. I look at it like this. There is only so much room at the top and you have arguably 10 different wrestlers who would be the center of the division in an earlier generation. The office is going to pick their favorites and unless you randomly catch fire your spot is going to be your spot. The real issue to me is with the overflow of female talent and the distance between your top players and everyone else. What makes Sasha unique compared to other disgruntled wrestlers is no matter what they do with her, she remains more over than her push. If they made her the center of the Smackdown women's division tomorrow, the fans would eat it up. So while she may be a mark for herself, if the fans are too, what's the problem?
  21. They are. I feel like when talking about this stuff 4 or 5 separate issues all get jumbled together. (independent contractor status, health care for current and retired talents, collective bargaining (i.e. better benefits, pay, time off) and providing for retired talents.) The only issue that really bothers me is the handling of the retired talents. It was a much different industry in the 80s and 90s. Many of the names of the eras had 3-5 year runs. Even if those were good money years, how long could that money reasonably last? How much money did a King Kong Bundy type ever make as a wrestler? If you're in your 40s or 50s with all sorts of aches and pains, no real income, no insurance and no marketable skills, life is going to be really hard. Does WWE owe these performers anything? No. Would it dramatically improve the quality of life of retired talents to chuck them $50k-$100k per year while barely effecting the bottom line? No question.
  22. Right. I remember Owens being interviewed before he signed. His knees were already gone.
  23. Most journalists don't last in the profession until they hit their 40s because it is extremely difficult to find someone who will pay you a livable wage with benefits. I obviously understand your point, but it takes a special kind of person to advocate for worker's rights in someone elses business while at the same time treating your own employees like crap.
  24. Not trying to start with the whataboutism, but wasnt the observer recently accused of not paying writers and giving out free subs in exchange for content? Would love to see what the pension plan looks like. It’s probably buried somewhere in his shed next to the Magee tape.
  25. But so can most of the current talent. The issue for me are the people who had a lengthy tenure who never made any real money. They worked 100-200 nights a year, got released and now are broken down with all sorts of health issues/complications. Yes, you can argue they knew what they were getting into and WWE doesn't owe them anything, but why not try to make things right by them.
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