Goodear Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 9 hours ago, Casey said: That’s kind of weird. Yeah, I'm not that nice a person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetrolCB Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 More like Badear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattdangerously Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 11 hours ago, Matt D said: Nothing in that statement is true. The quality of his work is subjective, but if you don't think Marvel is in trouble, then you haven't been paying attention. No one fires their Editor-in-Chief because they're happy with how things are going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 5 minutes ago, mattdangerously said: The quality of his work is subjective, but if you don't think Marvel is in trouble, then you haven't been paying attention. No one fires their Editor-in-Chief because they're happy with how things are going. I'm looking at the Marvel solicitations for January. I'm familiar with pretty much every writer (no idea about Jody Houser or Gabby Rivera or Rodney Barnes) and the only ones I'd even potentially put Punk over are Mike Costa, Victor Gischler, and maybe Guggenheim (who's way more polished but raw Punk might be better). Maybe. Whatever problems Marvel has, the actual writing (which isn't necessarily the same as the writers being superstars that can move books, which Punk wasn't, or the writers being tasked to write about things that are marketable in the wasteland that is the 2018 direct market) is pretty good line-wise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S.K.o.S. Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 Re wrestlers calling themselves the greatest, I do remember Chris Hero being ranked like top 25 in the world by DVDVR and saying "Geez I'm not that good." But that wasn't a promo situation or a media appearance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Edwin Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 I don't remember this, but Jerry Lawler somewhat pulling off a Kofi Kingston. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetrolCB Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 Since it’s Rumble season, I decided to just watch some random (good) match that I hadn’t seen in a while. Goddamn, that Hart/Razor match from ‘93 is awesome. Bret made Ramon look like a huge threat, when the guy didn’t really do much up until that point. I enjoyed it thoroughly. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 Oh my. The homophobic email to Alpha-1 about Joey Ryan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig H Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 The daily double Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChesterCopperpot Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 11 minutes ago, odessasteps said: Oh my. The homophobic email to Alpha-1 about Joey Ryan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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John from Cincinnati Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 54 minutes ago, ChesterCopperpot said: Not commenting on the substance complaint (which is appalling), but it drives me nuts when people spend multiple sentences at the top of a complaint establishing their credentials as a fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 I advised that Ryan and Iron start a tag team as "Inappropriate And Very Gay". 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godfrey Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 Not to make light of the situation, but "(possibly with Vagina) !!!" made me laugh. 4 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSJ Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 On 1/21/2018 at 12:16 PM, Burgundy LaRue said: True, but for a group that claims so much love for the supposed artform, fans seem overly harsh toward those providing the entertainment. But I'm in the bubble, so my perception is warped. So what if Sasha Banks says she's the best ever? She's a wrestler with what has been a pretty arrogant gimmick. I'm not sure why her saying that is a bad thing. If anything, she's keeping kayfabe. Which is something most fans say they want. Indeed. Here's a wonderful example of the death of kayfabe, and like you, I'm pretty sure that I don't like the results. Dial back to the early 1970s or the 1960s and Johnny Valentine is saying "I'm here to take the _______ title and anyone getting in my way is going to the hospital!" We didn't doubt for a second that the poor guy matched against him next week was leaving the building in an ambulance. Now Sasha Banks says she's the greatest ever, which is EXACTLY what an arrogant heel should say and we're going to get pages of discussion as to whether or not she was making the statement in character or if she's a delusional chucklehead. Nothing that I've read about the young lady is indicative of anything other than that she's just heeling it up, and good on her for that! We need more wrestlers kayfabing it to restore just a tad of the willing suspension of disbelief that makes this stuff so magical. Quite a few years ago I recall reading or hearing about a Southern Cal Indy wrestler, (I want to say it was Super Dragon, but I'm not 100% sure, it was def a guy that works under a mask though). Anyway, said wrestler and other heels from the fed came into a restaurant (I believe it was a Denny's or something similar), and a fan already seated and having dinner called out the heel's kayfabe name and waved. The wrestler walked over to the table and the fan thought he was going to get offered an autograph or tickets to the next show... Instead, the masked villain grabbed the guy's steak off the plate, took a big bite of it , dropped it back on the plate and walked away. I thought that was the greatest thing I'd ever heard of! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiji Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 Are gaymen related to Nightman and Dayman? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nice Guy Eddie Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 9 minutes ago, Ace said: I advised that Ryan and Iron start a tag team as "Inappropriate And Very Gay". Too bad Razor Ramon HG is retired. Joey Ryan, Gregory Iron, and Razor Ramon HG as Inappropriate and Hard Gay would make for a great trio. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caley Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 14 minutes ago, Godfrey said: Not to make light of the situation, but "(possibly with Vagina) !!!" made me laugh. (possibly with vagina) !!! should be the name of a tag team for them. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victator Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 Putting the homophobic business aside, they need to put parental warnings on shows with Ryan doing the dick spot. I don't think it's unreasonable complaint, unless the company actually did put up warnings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nice Guy Eddie Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 26 minutes ago, caley said: (possibly with vagina) !!! should be the name of a tag team for them. There's a ska punk band somewhere that just found it's name. I can easily picture a band called (possibly with vagina) !!! opening for Reel Big Fish. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuerrillaMonsoon Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 45 minutes ago, Oyaji said: Are gaymen related to Nightman and Dayman? Masters of Karate and Friendship. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dewar Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 56 minutes ago, OSJ said: Indeed. Here's a wonderful example of the death of kayfabe, and like you, I'm pretty sure that I don't like the results. Dial back to the early 1970s or the 1960s and Johnny Valentine is saying "I'm here to take the _______ title and anyone getting in my way is going to the hospital!" We didn't doubt for a second that the poor guy matched against him next week was leaving the building in an ambulance. Now Sasha Banks says she's the greatest ever, which is EXACTLY what an arrogant heel should say and we're going to get pages of discussion as to whether or not she was making the statement in character or if she's a delusional chucklehead. Nothing that I've read about the young lady is indicative of anything other than that she's just heeling it up, and good on her for that! We need more wrestlers kayfabing it to restore just a tad of the willing suspension of disbelief that makes this stuff so magical. Quite a few years ago I recall reading or hearing about a Southern Cal Indy wrestler, (I want to say it was Super Dragon, but I'm not 100% sure, it was def a guy that works under a mask though). Anyway, said wrestler and other heels from the fed came into a restaurant (I believe it was a Denny's or something similar), and a fan already seated and having dinner called out the heel's kayfabe name and waved. The wrestler walked over to the table and the fan thought he was going to get offered an autograph or tickets to the next show... Instead, the masked villain grabbed the guy's steak off the plate, took a big bite of it , dropped it back on the plate and walked away. I thought that was the greatest thing I'd ever heard of! Sasha's a babyface. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 3 hours ago, Victator said: Putting the homophobic business aside, they need to put parental warnings on shows with Ryan doing the dick spot. I don't think it's unreasonable complaint, unless the company actually did put up warnings. It's 2-3 hours of violence. Possibly with plunder. By men in their underwear. If people are okay with all that, but find it incredibly inappropriate to hear the word "penis" and see a hiptoss, then they need to get over themselves. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victator Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 On 1/22/2018 at 9:24 PM, Ace said: It's 2-3 hours of violence. Possibly with plunder. By men in their underwear. If people are okay with all that, but find it incredibly inappropriate to hear the word "penis" and see a hiptoss, then they need to get over themselves. Well I was expecting this reply. I mean it's wrong and you are smart enough to see the structural flaws in it. You are hoping I would not see them. Wrestling violence is typically akin to TV violence. Generally harmless, unless its something like CZW. Then I think that would be inappropriate. But CZW typically is upfront with what they are. Now your big flaw here is you are completely ignoring what I said. The objection is having a spot where a man grabs another mans dick. Or having other fans scream for Ryan to grab their dicks. If people were chanting to grab Bayley's ass or motorboat Alexa Bliss, some here would blow a gasket. Your argument boils down to "Well Justice League is violent, so its cool if Batman gives Superman a handy J." I'm not saying to boycott A1 wrestling or not book Joey Ryan (I mean they shouldn't because he is terrible), just a small parental advisory that says "There be dick grabbing yo." I mean that seems easy enough. EDIT: It seems three poor souls are confused. If anyone else is, contact me and I will walk you thru it. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 Nope. It's really that you're assigning a sexual act to something that isn't one. It's okay if Rikishi uses his ass, but not if Joey uses his dick. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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