Niners Fan in CT Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 1 hour ago, EricR said: Was I the only one who found it weird that they were kind of pretending the CWC didn't happen? Graves kept talking about the guys debuting, and they kept doing introduction videos for all the guys I imagine most of the viewers have already been introduced to. Are there really that many people who are watching this, but didn't watch the CWC? They will be in front of much more casual audiences every week so I think they need to go out of their way to introduce them again or risk having super dead crowds. the crowds might be dead anyway. But at least they came alive tonight for the last two matches so that was nice. Also, wasn't Cedric on the stage? I believe he was introduced in the very beginning. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.T. Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 5 hours ago, nofuture said: Fixed. So true. If I had a dollar for every time I was in a Waffle House with indy workers at 3 in the morning listening to some crazy ass story.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricR Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 13 minutes ago, Niners Fan in CT said: They will be in front of much more casual audiences every week so I think they need to go out of their way to introduce them again or risk having super dead crowds. the crowds might be dead anyway. But at least they came alive tonight for the last two matches so that was nice. I'm talking about the stuff that wouldn't have been presented to the live crowd, the way the announcers talked about guys, and things like that. They were treating people watching on the Network as people who had never seen these guys before. It's like the show only exists due to the buzz coming off the CWC, but doesn't acknowledge the CWC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rehabilitated Rick Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 35 minutes ago, Niners Fan in CT said: Also, wasn't Cedric on the stage? I believe he was introduced in the very beginning. Just watched it back and you're right and he probably received the biggest pop of the show, I suppose the matches outside of the main were showcase matches for the new guys (Diet Young Bucks & Jacky boy) and there wasn't enough time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamBroken Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 Hated taking the title off Kendrick already, thought he'd have it a bit longer than one month. Several near falls felt like that should've been it. Still don't care much about anyone else in the division, other than Noam Dar having a cool Raw debut. Did enjoy Aries on commentary. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Z Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 9 hours ago, Nice Guy Eddie said: I was surprised at the Bollywood Boyz getting the win over Nese & Gulak. I really didn't expect the Bollywood Boyz to get picked up after their not-so-great CWC performances. I don't think the Bollywood Boys were signed because of their talent. They were signed, because India has a population of over one billion. Same reason why Ho Ho Lun was signed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted November 30, 2016 Author Share Posted November 30, 2016 I think it is 99% that and 1% poking fun at Jeff Jarrett 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turk128 Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 7 hours ago, EVA said: It might make me a bad person, but I lost it when Aries called the Bollywood Boys "Herp and Derp." Don't forget the comment about them being thankful there was running water and lights. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgundy LaRue Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 7 hours ago, EVA said: Swann winning the title now begs the question why they didn't just make him the "safety" option in the CWC Final Four to begin with. TJP came out of his bracket. My admittedly uneducated theory would probably get me the ban hammer. Jack Gallagher is going to be a blast to watch. Kendrick becoming more delusional is fascinating. A good start for the show, though they may need to have it happen pre-SDL in order to hopefully ensure a better live audience. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turk128 Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 Great start for the 205. Very very glad that Gallagher got over with the non-NXT crowd, he's gonna be really fun to watch both in ring and crowd-wise. Aries really going to be part of the 205? It'll be great if he does double duty. Great title match. Kendrick is the Jericho/Miz of the 205. Hey, maybe Tozawa can help out Apollo; tag with him, be the Gable to his Jordan (have some personality rub off on him). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sublime Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 Bollywood Boys are not good but they're kinda fun and harmless as undercard tag team. Was hoping Gulak & Nese would win cause I like Gulak and in hindsight I'm surprised all faces went over, I figured Bollywood boys and Jack both went over because Swann wasn't going to win the title. Loved the main event so many moments where I thought it was gonna end but can the crowds stop with the "TEN!" stuff during count out situations it's a pain to try to follow along with the count at home which puts a damper on the match, for me anyway. It cuts down on the drama and it's one of those things that seems more about getting the crowd over than the wrestling. Do it during Dillinger matches all you want leave it out of any other matches please unless it's on a show where Ty is challenging for a title or something. I think The Brian Kendrick will get the title back relatively soon because the heel side of the roster is pretty thin. TBK, Nese, Gulak and Arya vs Faces: Swann, TJP, Cedric, Lince, Metalik, Jack, Bollywood boys, Lun. I guess Ali might be a heel, sigh, since his name is Mustafa Ali. Towzawa could be a heel but I don't think the crowds will boo him cause he's awesome and his style is entertaining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Z Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 10 minutes ago, Sublime said: Bollywood Boys are not good but they're kinda fun and harmless as undercard tag team. Was hoping Gulak & Nese would win cause I like Gulak and in hindsight I'm surprised all faces went over, I figured Bollywood boys and Jack both went over because Swann wasn't going to win the title. Loved the main event so many moments where I thought it was gonna end but can the crowds stop with the "TEN!" stuff during count out situations it's a pain to try to follow along with the count at home which puts a damper on the match, for me anyway. It cuts down on the drama and it's one of those things that seems more about getting the crowd over than the wrestling. Do it during Dillinger matches all you want leave it out of any other matches please unless it's on a show where Ty is challenging for a title or something. I think The Brian Kendrick will get the title back relatively soon because the heel side of the roster is pretty thin. TBK, Nese, Gulak and Arya vs Faces: Swann, TJP, Cedric, Lince, Metalik, Jack, Bollywood boys, Lun. I guess Ali might be a heel, sigh, since his name is Mustafa Ali. Towzawa could be a heel but I don't think the crowds will boo him cause he's awesome and his style is entertaining. Nese and Gulak not even getting an entrance should have been the first indication they are going to lose. Can't take that long for Aries' face to heal up. 2 hours ago, RIPPA said: I think it is 99% that and 1% poking fun at Jeff Jarrett I'm still surprised they've never given Sonjay Dutt a chance. He's not the greatest wrestler in the world, but he's definitely better than Khali and the Bollywood Boys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolfan in NYC Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted November 30, 2016 Author Share Posted November 30, 2016 39 minutes ago, The Z said: Can't take that long for Aries' face to heal up. All reports are that he is out till at least the beginning of the new year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supremebve Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 Putting it on after Smackdown seems like the worst possible time to have this show. My hope for this show is that they move the show to Full Sail, it gets over huge with that crowd and Network subscribers, and it tours with NXT. I also think they should start a tag, or even better, a six-man division. The roster is really thin right now, but Ciampa, Gargano, Itami, and a bunch of other guys are in NXT who could very easily join the division. How big is Andrade Cien Almas? He looks like he might be too big, but so does Tony Nese. Neville, Kalisto, and Tyler Breeze should also be participating in this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Go2Sleep Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 Aries being long-term top heel is a great plan. He'll be a great fit here when it was looking like his options were too limited for his talent on the other shows. Also, Akira Tozawa got his first name back! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Moose Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 17 hours ago, EricR said: Was I the only one who found it weird that they were kind of pretending the CWC didn't happen? Graves kept talking about the guys debuting, and they kept doing introduction videos for all the guys I imagine most of the viewers have already been introduced to. Are there really that many people who are watching this, but didn't watch the CWC? I read that they're cancelling Superstars in favor of 205 Live... if that's the case, does it also mean that this show will be on air in foreign markets? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 That might make sense, given all the international talent potentially being used Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maciej Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 Sure that main might have been better in front of an already hot crowd, but it was still really great, I think. One thing I really love about Swann's performance is that when he's between moves on offense, especially if there's a lot of distance between him and Kendrick, he really looks like he's thinking hard and trying to figure out the best angle for his next move, which really makes sense for a high flyer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyLaw Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 Swann probably wasn't planned to go farther in the CWC because he was coming off an injury then. There was concern about whether he'd be ready in time, IIRC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Man Known as Dan Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 That argument doesn't make sense in the grand scheme, since the shows were not taped at one time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie M. Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 It's clear that Plan A was Kota Ibushi. Read any of the interviews with him. They just failed to really grasp how much of a free spirit he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyld Samurai Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 20 minutes ago, El Dragon said: That argument doesn't make sense in the grand scheme, since the shows were not taped at one time. That and hey also saw the reactions he got on NXT doing one offs against Balor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Man Known as Dan Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 Heck, they got to see Swann being way more over then Perkins for 2 rounds before they put Perkins over him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Schneider Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 http://segundacaida.blogspot.com/2016/12/205-live-112916.html Here is the Segunda Caida review Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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