TerjeRUN Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 Nxt is the first program to take advantage of what the wwe network can be. With no need to fill arenas or television time and no pressure to please advertisers and television execs you can take your time and see what sticks. This is what I like most about the promotion: the simplicity. I liked OVW at one point for similar reasons when I used to tape trade, which was obviously hard and expensive to keep on top of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SorceressKnight Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 Nxt is the first program to take advantage of what the wwe network can be. With no need to fill arenas or television time and no pressure to please advertisers and television execs you can take your time and see what sticks. This is what I like most about the promotion: the simplicity. I liked OVW at one point for similar reasons when I used to tape trade, which was obviously hard and expensive to keep on top of. The OVW era was similar, but even that had the same weird difference where it's rare for a WWE promotion from NXT- whether they had their gimmicks changed up or not, to actually have it account in NXT as well. Really, The Shield showing up so Rollins could drop the title was the only time NXT's ever used the OVW trademark booking move of "top OVW superstar gets the callup to WWE, and so next week they're suddenly their WWE character"- and sometimes, that dual nature to the WWE/NXT gimmicks actually enhanced the WWE gimmick (best example there: It makes far more sense for Big E Langston's original WWE push as an ally of AJ Lee/Dolph Ziggler when NXT kept him as the 5-count NXT Champion hero who Vickie Guerrero hated for some reason and put a bounty on- thus making his real storyline "Big E was never 'really' a bad guy at all- he just allied with AJ and Ziggler because he also had a problem with Vickie Guerrero and the enemies of his enemy is his friend.') Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nature Boy Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 Nxt is the first program to take advantage of what the wwe network can be. With no need to fill arenas or television time and no pressure to please advertisers and television execs you can take your time and see what sticks. This is what I like most about the promotion: the simplicity. I liked OVW at one point for similar reasons when I used to tape trade, which was obviously hard and expensive to keep on top of. The OVW era was similar, but even that had the same weird difference where it's rare for a WWE promotion from NXT- whether they had their gimmicks changed up or not, to actually have it account in NXT as well. Really, The Shield showing up so Rollins could drop the title was the only time NXT's ever used the OVW trademark booking move of "top OVW superstar gets the callup to WWE, and so next week they're suddenly their WWE character"- and sometimes, that dual nature to the WWE/NXT gimmicks actually enhanced the WWE gimmick (best example there: It makes far more sense for Big E Langston's original WWE push as an ally of AJ Lee/Dolph Ziggler when NXT kept him as the 5-count NXT Champion hero who Vickie Guerrero hated for some reason and put a bounty on- thus making his real storyline "Big E was never 'really' a bad guy at all- he just allied with AJ and Ziggler because he also had a problem with Vickie Guerrero and the enemies of his enemy is his friend.') OVW did something similar with Nick Dinsmore when he was called up as Eugene. They ran an angle where he sold out to John Laurinaitis and took the Eugene gimmick in order to make it to the big time. That's also how they explained Doug Basham and The Damaja suddenly being "brothers," it was all the work of Johnny Ace. Some of Horshu's best work was as Inspector Max Impact, the voice of John Laurinaitis. Great heel gimmick for early 00s OVW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SorceressKnight Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 Nxt is the first program to take advantage of what the wwe network can be. With no need to fill arenas or television time and no pressure to please advertisers and television execs you can take your time and see what sticks. This is what I like most about the promotion: the simplicity. I liked OVW at one point for similar reasons when I used to tape trade, which was obviously hard and expensive to keep on top of. The OVW era was similar, but even that had the same weird difference where it's rare for a WWE promotion from NXT- whether they had their gimmicks changed up or not, to actually have it account in NXT as well. Really, The Shield showing up so Rollins could drop the title was the only time NXT's ever used the OVW trademark booking move of "top OVW superstar gets the callup to WWE, and so next week they're suddenly their WWE character"- and sometimes, that dual nature to the WWE/NXT gimmicks actually enhanced the WWE gimmick (best example there: It makes far more sense for Big E Langston's original WWE push as an ally of AJ Lee/Dolph Ziggler when NXT kept him as the 5-count NXT Champion hero who Vickie Guerrero hated for some reason and put a bounty on- thus making his real storyline "Big E was never 'really' a bad guy at all- he just allied with AJ and Ziggler because he also had a problem with Vickie Guerrero and the enemies of his enemy is his friend.') OVW did something similar with Nick Dinsmore when he was called up as Eugene. They ran an angle where he sold out to John Laurinaitis and took the Eugene gimmick in order to make it to the big time. That's also how they explained Doug Basham and The Damaja suddenly being "brothers," it was all the work of Johnny Ace. Some of Horshu's best work was as Inspector Max Impact, the voice of John Laurinaitis. Great heel gimmick for early 00s OVW. Yeah- that was pretty common for OVW in the time, and something never done in NXT outside of that Rollins/Reigns-to-Shield thing. ...it's also a fair thing for the booking people: Paul Heyman, the counterculture, extremist booker, just shrugged when a new star was promoted to WWE, made them that gimmick in OVW, and never mentioned it. Jim Cornette, the "traditionalist", old school booker, made a core part of 2000s OVW "Yeah, you fans know who they REALLY are, but these assholes in WWE are FORCING them to be something else!". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hollywood Cibernetico Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 Why are people defending bad storytelling and lack of character depth? Because USA, stockholders, and advertisers need to be satisfied? I am pretty sure the stock will not take a dive if WWE decided to explain where The Wyatts took Taker/Kane and how The Brothers of Destruction were able to escape. I am pretty sure the advertisers won't bail if Raw doesn't open with a promo. If Charlotte's charlotte has actual depth, would USA really pull the plug? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tromatagon Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 Yes Characters are welcome Not Character Development Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted November 11, 2015 Author Share Posted November 11, 2015 So the WWE is putting out a Best of NXT DVD Per the twitter account - the matches so far are (this isnt in order since I am just stealing it via tweets) Sasha Banks vs. Bayley - NXT Women's Title (Brooklyn) Big E vs Rollins - NXT Championship Apollo Crews vs. Tyler Breeze (Respect) Neville vs. Sami Zayn - NXT Championship (R Evolution) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nature Boy Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 The Wyatts are the biggest example of characters that suffer from the current way of doing things. Take them back 20-30 years ago and we'd have "on location" interviews from the Wyatt Compound in the swamps of Florida. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Man Known as Dan Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 The Wyatts are the biggest example of characters that suffer from the current way of doing things. Take them back 20-30 years ago and we'd have "on location" interviews from the Wyatt Compound in the swamps of Florida. The Wyatts are the biggest example of characters that suffer from the current way of doing things. Take them back 20-30 years ago and we'd have "on location" interviews from the Wyatt Compound in the swamps of Florida. The Wyatt Family in the 80's would have been the biggest of god damned stars. Imagine them "kidnapping" baby faces who were leaving the territory. They would have been huge. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Sorrow Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 Fucking Samoa Joe was AWESOME tonight on NXT. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 I think if Zayn hadn't gotten hurt, he and Owens may have traded it once more before passing it to Balor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
w. josh Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 I could see someone coming back down and doing a transitional champ deal at some point. There's a good story to be had from, say, Owens or Big E working a special, winning the title, treating it with disdain, and getting beaten at the next special by a fired-up Chad Gable or some other plucky face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tromatagon Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 Fucking Samoa Joe was AWESOME tonight on NXT. TMI dude 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 So the WWE is putting out a Best of NXT DVD Per the twitter account - the matches so far are (this isnt in order since I am just stealing it via tweets) Sasha Banks vs. Bayley - NXT Women's Title (Brooklyn) Big E vs Rollins - NXT Championship Apollo Crews vs. Tyler Breeze (Respect) Neville vs. Sami Zayn - NXT Championship (R Evolution) Adding to RIPPA's post: DVD & Blu-ray Big E vs. Seth Rollins (NXT Championship) – 1/9/2013 Sami Zayn vs. Adrian Neville (NXT Championship) – TakeOver: R Evolution Kevin Owens vs. Finn Bálor (NXT Championship) – Beast in the East Sasha Banks vs. Bayley (NXT Women’s Championship) – TakeOver: Brooklyn Blu-ray Exclusives Sasha Banks vs. Charlotte (NXT Women’s Championship) – 7/15/2015 Tyler Breeze vs. Apollo Crews – TakeOver: Respect Credit: wwedvd.co.uk Which NXT matches would you include? DVD comes out a day after my birthday. Yay! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Man Known as Dan Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 So the WWE is putting out a Best of NXT DVD Per the twitter account - the matches so far are (this isnt in order since I am just stealing it via tweets) Sasha Banks vs. Bayley - NXT Women's Title (Brooklyn) Big E vs Rollins - NXT Championship Apollo Crews vs. Tyler Breeze (Respect) Neville vs. Sami Zayn - NXT Championship (R Evolution) Adding to RIPPA's post: DVD & Blu-ray Big E vs. Seth Rollins (NXT Championship) – 1/9/2013 Sami Zayn vs. Adrian Neville (NXT Championship) – TakeOver: R Evolution Kevin Owens vs. Finn Bálor (NXT Championship) – Beast in the East Sasha Banks vs. Bayley (NXT Women’s Championship) – TakeOver: Brooklyn Blu-ray Exclusives Sasha Banks vs. Charlotte (NXT Women’s Championship) – 7/15/2015 Tyler Breeze vs. Apollo Crews – TakeOver: Respect Credit: wwedvd.co.uk Which NXT matches would you include? DVD comes out a day after my birthday. Yay! Zayn/Cesaro series, the finals of the NXT title tournament with Rollins and Maha, Paige/Emma (both) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Moose Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 So the WWE is putting out a Best of NXT DVD Per the twitter account - the matches so far are (this isnt in order since I am just stealing it via tweets) Sasha Banks vs. Bayley - NXT Women's Title (Brooklyn) Big E vs Rollins - NXT Championship Apollo Crews vs. Tyler Breeze (Respect) Neville vs. Sami Zayn - NXT Championship (R Evolution) Adding to RIPPA's post: DVD & Blu-ray Big E vs. Seth Rollins (NXT Championship) – 1/9/2013 Sami Zayn vs. Adrian Neville (NXT Championship) – TakeOver: R Evolution Kevin Owens vs. Finn Bálor (NXT Championship) – Beast in the East Sasha Banks vs. Bayley (NXT Women’s Championship) – TakeOver: Brooklyn Blu-ray Exclusives Sasha Banks vs. Charlotte (NXT Women’s Championship) – 7/15/2015 Tyler Breeze vs. Apollo Crews – TakeOver: Respect Credit: wwedvd.co.uk Which NXT matches would you include? Regal v Cesaro Cesaro v Zayn Balor/Itami v Ascension (R-Evolution) Women's Fatal 4-Way Zayn v Cena The promos where Steph launches the Diva's Revolution and Owens surprises Cena on Raw ... there's too much out there... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyLaw Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 Yep, I would agree with that one, as a palate cleanser if nothing else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HumanChessgame Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 Are there any really awesome matches that were never included on the show? I remember hearing about a Hero/Cesaro vs Bryan/Rollins match that they never televised. Putting out a Best of dvd at the end of each year like Chikara does featuring that year's best matches would be a good idea, especially for bringing in new fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Evans Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 I wish they would release house show matches for extras on those DVDs. Like at last nights show in Orlando that I went to, the main event was a Survivor Series match Team Crews(Crews, Vaudvillans and Gable/Jordan) vs Team Corbin(Corbin, Dash/Dawson and BAMF). I know they taped it cause I was standing next to the camera. Great match by the way. Aiden did the 3 amigos to a huge pop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted November 16, 2015 Author Share Posted November 16, 2015 Triple H announced that they are going to do a TV taping the Friday before Royal Rumble at the CFE Arena on the University of Central Florida Campus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CastleVania Rey Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 A little late, but I feel I should make up for my previous comments. I thought Nia Jax was terrific in her last two squashes. She added the smashing that I felt was too thin in her first match. I know she doesn't have a lot of experience now, but I see a lot of potential in her and WWE could really use an Aja Kong type. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 Cross posting from the lucha thread La Sombra joins nxt www.wwe.com/shows/wwenxt/manuel-alfonso-andrade-oropeza-joins-performance-center-28231747 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Wilson Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 You have to give HHH credit, he is really trying to sign talent from wherever they can get it. So far it is just making NXT better but hopefully down the road it will lead to a shift on RAW/SD/PPV too. Maybe five years down the road but at least there is some effort there by someone to bring in fresh wrestlers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Playa Shunna Ver 3.0 Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 You have to give HHH credit, he is really trying to sign talent from wherever they can get it. So far it is just making NXT better but hopefully down the road it will lead to a shift on RAW/SD/PPV too. Maybe five years down the road but at least there is some effort there by someone to bring in fresh wrestlers. You have to give Vince even more credit for ignoring all this talent, continuing to push the WWE brand, and for being able to sabotage anyone with momentum on his main show. I feel good about the future of NXT, but so far almost none of the successes of NXT have translated or been allowed to be top talent in WWE. Until that happens they will continue rely on the stars of the past, and the guys who should be leading the company wil always be mired in 50/50 booking, terrible scripted promos, and really only be allowed in the mid card. Even Vince's golden boy Roman doesn;t get the to the moon push he needs to be a top guy. Wow....did I just rant that. Sorry y'all, I'm excited to see Sombra more on NXT! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChesterCopperpot Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 (edited) So this guy is at the NXT tapings today - *an excellent spoiler* edit: So is another guy Gunner Edited November 19, 2015 by ChesterCopperpot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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