LoneWolf&Subs Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 32 minutes ago, RIPPA said: Tonight's SDL ratings grab... well sorta since they would need to announce it first. SDL Spoiler maybe??? Reveal hidden contents I hope that means they are taking the belts off the IIconics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tromatagon Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 Blasphemy. Not that I'm watching either way, but blasphemy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoneWolf&Subs Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 I don’t know what’s worse. The WWF’s tag team division of the mid 90’s, or the WWE’s current tag divisions? At least the WWF had the better geeks with the New Rockers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mystman Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 16 hours ago, Firebreaker Chip said: This is also the problem with every top rope move to a downed opponent in wrestling history though, wrestling just has intrinsically weird logic around how the human body responds to accumulated damage. Doesn't make any irl sense but it's great for building tension I don't know if it's always unconditionally bad to make your opponent look stupid. Like when Naito does his "actually no I can't be bothered to lock up yet" stroll or the tranquilo flop, somebody could easily drop him with a straight right but, like OC, it's often done nearer the start of the match and the opponent is kind of confounded/thrown off their game/momentarily paralysed by irritation. In Naito's case it makes him seem like a dick who likes mind games, with OC it's usually at the expensive of the local pompous heel. Most of the OC stuff I've seen has had the payoff of him busting out some genuinely impressive stuff that surprises his opponent later. I guess also the fact that his "casual" stuff is genuinely skilled in execution makes people feel they're not being taken for idiots as well, it's just a different kind of athleticism AEW do need to be a bit careful with how they use him though, integrating that act into a nominally "serious" promotion with TV, ongoing continuity, a stated commitment to seeming like a sports product - different kettle of fish to light relief in matches at an indie show I like Orange Cassidy's gimmick myself, but I think it would work better in a structured enviroment like WWE or AEW than on the indie circuit. You could build some character development there. He starts out, standing there, not giving a crap, match after match, inexplicably becoming more and more popular with his antics. Then, he's suddenly no longer in there with low to mid card goofballs, but with the elite of the company, who are more than willing to kick his trifling ass. Then he has to fight. Beyond pretty much did this with OC vs. Starr. I loved that match, and would work in a more long form program. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nice Guy Eddie Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 1 hour ago, LoneWolf&Subs said: I hope that means they are taking the belts off the IIconics. Ugh...I hope not. Shafir might be ready, but I don't think Duke is. She's very awkward looking in the ring. Nothing she does looks natural. It all looks very uncomfortable and uncoordinated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoneWolf&Subs Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 4 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said: Ugh...I hope not. Shafir might be ready, but I don't think Duke is. She's very awkward looking in the ring. Nothing she does looks natural. It all looks very uncomfortable and uncoordinated. At least Duke has a real excuse for being unready. She’s a novice. What the hell is Billie’s excuse for being awful in there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nice Guy Eddie Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 1 minute ago, LoneWolf&Subs said: At least Duke has a real excuse for being unready. She’s a novice. What the hell is Billie’s excuse for being awful in there? She makes up for with personality and the character work. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoneWolf&Subs Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said: She makes up for with personality and the character work. It won’t matter who’s holding those belts anyway. Vince hates tag wrestling. He’ll maybe do something with them in a blue moon, and you hope that the personality based teams with can work like The New Day did. The IIconics are no New Day, though. I’d rather the unpredictable MMA women get a hold of them, and hope Rhonda has enough pull to get them more TV time. Edited June 19, 2019 by LoneWolf&Subs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolfan in NYC Posted June 19, 2019 Author Share Posted June 19, 2019 Hey @RIPPA. Add this to your list. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fowler Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 I don't know how well that match will hold up these days, but in the moment it was the best WWE women's match in years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 3 hours ago, LoneWolf&Subs said: I don’t know what’s worse. The WWF’s tag team division of the mid 90’s, or the WWE’s current tag divisions? At least the WWF had the better geeks with the New Rockers. Daniel Bryan on his own over the mid WWF '90s tag teams. However I miss Daniel Bryan in the main event picture as WWE Champion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Cincinnati Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 If we're seriously having this discussion, then WWE's so stale these days that we take the consistency of the Usos for granted. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dewar Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 Usos, Revival, New Day. The talent in the tag division is still better than pretty much anywhere else* (except for LAX, who might be #2 behind the Usos for me). Just need to give them the time they keep using for Lashley and Baron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 Oney Lorcan has a score to settle. 4 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt McGirt Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 Was about to say, there needs to be a Super Dragon match for the PWG Anniversary show... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyld Samurai Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 5 hours ago, West Newbury Bad Boy said: If we're seriously having this discussion, then WWE's so stale these days that we take the consistency of the Usos for granted. In this argument The Uso's are The Smoking Gunns of this generation. I'd love to have a Quebecer's.. or an Owen & Davey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 17 minutes ago, Wyld Samurai said: In this argument The Uso's are The Smoking Gunns of this generation. I'd love to have a Quebecer's.. or an Owen & Davey. Not the SST of this generation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sky Blue Sam Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 7 hours ago, Brian Fowler said: I don't know how well that match will hold up these days, but in the moment it was the best WWE women's match in years. It holds up pretty well. AJ bumps big while Kaitlyn hits some big power moves (the story was that AJ had embarrassed Kaitlyn with a fake secret admirer, so Kaitlyn was fired up), before her anger causes her to make one mistake that AJ capitalizes on. Good match. What happened with Kaitlyn BTW? Made a brief comeback last year for the MYC then vanished again. She looked really good in that comeback, would have liked to have seen it continue 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 (edited) Looking for the Benny Hill theme for a post in the June GIF thread reminded me of a true classic: Edited June 19, 2019 by The Natural 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 32 minutes ago, Sky Blue Sam said: It holds up pretty well. AJ bumps big while Kaitlyn hits some big power moves (the story was that AJ had embarrassed Kaitlyn with a fake secret admirer, so Kaitlyn was fired up), before her anger causes her to make one mistake that AJ capitalizes on. Good match. What happened with Kaitlyn BTW? Made a brief comeback last year for the MYC then vanished again. She looked really good in that comeback, would have liked to have seen it continue I think Kaitlyn became a fitness model. Not entirely sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MORELOCK Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 7 hours ago, West Newbury Bad Boy said: If we're seriously having this discussion I think that's the trouble - there isn't really an argument that the mid-90's tag scene was better, just some hyperbole tossed out. There were like four total tag teams at any given time. Modern day WWE has more than four tag team *titles*. You could even make the argument that each respective brand is still better than the mid-90's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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LoneWolf&Subs Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 2 hours ago, MORELOCK said: I think that's the trouble - there isn't really an argument that the mid-90's tag scene was better, just some hyperbole tossed out. There were like four total tag teams at any given time. Modern day WWE has more than four tag team *titles*. You could even make the argument that each respective brand is still better than the mid-90's. Name me a tag angle in the past year more famous than Sunny & The Godwins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig H Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 1 hour ago, nofuture said: This is fucking cool. It put a big smile on my face. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolfan in NYC Posted June 19, 2019 Author Share Posted June 19, 2019 Andrade just tweeted out that his aunt just passed away as well. God damn that sucks for him. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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