tbarrie Posted September 10, 2019 Posted September 10, 2019 19 minutes ago, J.H. said: Hey am I the only person who remembers Ricky Steamboat on that Gil Gerard/Ernie Reyes Jr show Sidekicks? You may be the only one who remembers that Gil Gerard/Ernie Reyes Jr show Sidekicks. 3
J.H. Posted September 10, 2019 Posted September 10, 2019 11 hours ago, tbarrie said: You may be the only one who remembers that Gil Gerard/Ernie Reyes Jr show Sidekicks. Y'know, I'm okay with that because if I gotta remember a Gil Gerard show that isn't Buck Rogers I'm glad its Sidekicks and not Earth Force James 1
Captain Kronos Posted September 12, 2019 Posted September 12, 2019 Does Vince own the whole SMW library? I just don't understand why they don’t put out more of it. Does Cornette have some kind of say?
BurningBeard Posted September 12, 2019 Posted September 12, 2019 1990. Were you Hogan or Warrior? Or were you like Jesse? 1 6
AxB Posted September 25, 2019 Posted September 25, 2019 So did NWO Sting ever do anything in Wrestling besides be NWO Sting? Also, is the reason the NWO were in Sting's corner for that one WrestleMania match because Vince saw a picture of the NWO with NWO Sting in there, and didn't realise it wasn't the real Real Estate Steve?
J.H. Posted September 25, 2019 Posted September 25, 2019 Jeff Farmer made a pretty decent living in Japan with NWO Sting gimmick and later morphed in to Super J as a member of Team 2000 James 1
BurningBeard Posted September 25, 2019 Posted September 25, 2019 I think they were going for a WCW v WWF vibe with the nWo coming out to help Sting against Triple H and DX but... it's Sting and the nWo you buffoons. 3
Technico Support Posted September 25, 2019 Posted September 25, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, AxB said: So did NWO Sting ever do anything in Wrestling besides be NWO Sting? Also, is the reason the NWO were in Sting's corner for that one WrestleMania match because Vince saw a picture of the NWO with NWO Sting in there, and didn't realise it wasn't the real Real Estate Steve? I remember his brief program, wrestling as "Cobra," with Craig Pittman before being repackaged as NWO Sting. The storyline behind their program, per Wikipedia, is something else: Quote Bobby "The Brain" Heenan and "Mean" Gene Okerlund explained Cobra's kayfabe back story of having served in the Gulf War. Sgt. Craig Pittman, a legit Marine sergeant, abandoned Cobra in the desert, then reported him AWOL back at camp. Cobra lost all rank and respect, learned to wrestle, and came to WCW seeking revenge on Pittman. That's a lot of time and effort for a really shitty form of revenge. How about just kill the guy when you get back to the states? Edited September 25, 2019 by Technico Support 1 4
Curt McGirt Posted September 25, 2019 Posted September 25, 2019 Or he could have built a Weather Dominator. 1 3
tbarrie Posted September 25, 2019 Posted September 25, 2019 3 hours ago, Technico Support said: That's a lot of time and effort for a really shitty form of revenge. How about just kill the guy when you get back to the states? If we start questioning whether beating somebody in a wrestling match is the best form of revenge, the whole genre sort of falls apart, doesn't it? 4 2
Infinit Posted September 25, 2019 Posted September 25, 2019 (edited) 6 hours ago, Technico Support said: I remember his brief program, wrestling as "Cobra," with Craig Pittman before being repackaged as NWO Sting. The storyline behind their program, per Wikipedia, is something else: That's a lot of time and effort for a really shitty form of revenge. How about just kill the guy when you get back to the states? Cobra and Pittman had a PPV match where Pittman rappelled from the ceiling, which was a pretty unique entrance back then. Edited September 25, 2019 by Infinit
odessasteps Posted September 25, 2019 Posted September 25, 2019 Didnt they also have Ranger Ross do that at a Clash (his debut I think)? 1 1
Nice Guy Eddie Posted September 25, 2019 Posted September 25, 2019 I believe Jeff Farmer was 1/2 of the jobber tag team Thunder & Lightning prior to the Cobra gimmick. I couldn't tell you if he was Thunder or Lightning, nor do I want to put in that much effort to look it up.
The Great ML Posted September 25, 2019 Posted September 25, 2019 2 hours ago, odessasteps said: Didnt they also have Ranger Ross do that at a Clash (his debut I think)? Yes, at Clash 6 in the Superdome...but the dolts in charge didn't telegraph in rehearsal where he'd actually land on the telecast, and unfortunately the African American war hero got lost in a dark spot of the crowd. 1
BloodyChamp Posted September 26, 2019 Posted September 26, 2019 (edited) Who remembers Paul Heyman name dropping Thunder and Lightning in that unintentionally hilarious shoot style interview he did in (gasp) 1995 I think? The NWO Sting worked regularly from the time he debuted. NWO Japan was a huge thing over there and he was 1 of the big names. He had a good run in WCW for several weeks too, and was 1 of those guys who could be plugged in any time afterwards. I always thought Sting vs The NWO Sting would have been the closest thing to Sting vs The Undertaker had they done it right. Unfortunately that eliminates most ideas when applied to WCW. Pittman vs Cobra was gold cartoon era stuff. Unfortunately it came along to late. Pittman coming out dressed as black Rambo that 1 night looked legit scary I’ll dang sure give him that. EDIT: does anybody have a link to that time he came out dressed as Rambo? Or remember who Cobra was wrestling so that I could look it up? It might have been Cobra’s last match as I don’t remember anything happening again until Pittman started looking for managers. Cobra was wrestling and after the match Pittman appeared with a gun and a bullet bandolier, war paint, and just the whole get up. The announcers plugged that their feud obviously wasn’t over and they faded out from Pittman looking like a monster. Edited September 26, 2019 by BloodyChamp 1
Happ Hazzard Posted October 14, 2019 Posted October 14, 2019 Does anyone know which US territory first broadcast their TV in color? And conversely, which was the last territory to still be broadcasting in b&w?
cwoy2j Posted October 19, 2019 Posted October 19, 2019 On 9/25/2019 at 5:13 PM, Infinit said: Cobra and Pittman had a PPV match where Pittman rappelled from the ceiling, which was a pretty unique entrance back then. I remember Pittman cutting a promo on Cobra before that match and saying, "the beatings will continue until morale improves!" In hindsight, Pittman was pretty cool.
dokdoyle Posted October 19, 2019 Posted October 19, 2019 3 hours ago, cwoy2j said: I remember Pittman cutting a promo on Cobra before that match and saying, "the beatings will continue until morale improves!" In hindsight, Pittman was pretty cool. I use that quote once a week at work. 1
BurningBeard Posted October 25, 2019 Posted October 25, 2019 First I've heard of this. Christ, imagine this line-up! What would they have done with Windham coming back though?
Log Posted October 25, 2019 Posted October 25, 2019 Man, sometimes I really wish I never heard stories like that. Just makes me sad for what could have been. It's amazing how many awesome things in wrestling have been killed by dipshits running the show. 1
Happ Hazzard Posted November 3, 2019 Posted November 3, 2019 When did the WWF start using the steel cage that lowered from the ceiling instead of having to build it and take it down again? Was Mankind vs HHH at SummerSlam '97 its first appearance? I don't recall any cage matches in 95-96 off the top of my head, but they definitely had to build the one for Bret vs Owen at SummerSlam '94.
Nice Guy Eddie Posted November 4, 2019 Posted November 4, 2019 1 hour ago, Happ Hazzard said: When did the WWF start using the steel cage that lowered from the ceiling instead of having to build it and take it down again? Was Mankind vs HHH at SummerSlam '97 its first appearance? I don't recall any cage matches in 95-96 off the top of my head, but they definitely had to build the one for Bret vs Owen at SummerSlam '94. I was at Summerslam '97 and could swear the blue cage erector set was used for HHH/Mankind. 2
Wyld Samurai Posted November 4, 2019 Posted November 4, 2019 (edited) I think HBK vs Undertaker in Hell in a Cell 1997 was the first non hokey cage in the WWF. Edited November 4, 2019 by Wyld Samurai
BloodyChamp Posted November 5, 2019 Posted November 5, 2019 On 10/25/2019 at 11:17 AM, Log said: Man, sometimes I really wish I never heard stories like that. Just makes me sad for what could have been. It's amazing how many awesome things in wrestling have been killed by dipshits running the show. I might have posted this before but this blew my mind when I first heard about it. This particular video is loaded with Jim Cornette fluff dialogue but he gets to the point. I think the video I posted before was a different one but this is the story anyway. I remember hearing stories about Meltzer calling the WCW Saturday Night match the greatest angle in years. I mean it was ok...greatest no way. Then I heard about what was really happening years later through Jim in 1 of his shoots. Not knowing it was soon to be axed, and that they weren’t going to get as violent as planned in the meantime, I would say Meltzer was right. That would have been an amazing story!
grilledcheese Posted November 5, 2019 Posted November 5, 2019 (edited) On 11/3/2019 at 4:27 PM, Nice Guy Eddie said: I was at Summerslam '97 and could swear the blue cage erector set was used for HHH/Mankind. For sure it was. That's the Chyna door slam match. On 11/3/2019 at 4:49 PM, Wyld Samurai said: I think HBK vs Undertaker in Hell in a Cell 1997 was the first non hokey cage in the WWF. Wait a minute! Non-hokey? Am I in the minority in thinking that the blue cage is the superior cage? I fucking HATE the cyclone fence version. I like its use for HIAC, but I always thought the 80's WWF cage is the best of the bunch. Snuka -Muraco, Snuka - Backlund, and Sammartino - Zbyszko are the only matches of the era that jump off the top of my head that were in a cage, and all three in cages made of chain link fence. It changed to the blue bars for Bundy - Hogan WM2 and stayed that way until Valentine's Day Massacre. After that show, the cage went back to the chain link. I bet that blue cage was a motherfucker to bump into, though. Good for the workers that have to be in it that the new (old) style is much more giving, but I dig the visual of the other so much more. Edited November 5, 2019 by grilledcheese 1
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