thee Reverend Axl Future Posted January 30, 2020 Posted January 30, 2020 Oy vey, take it to the TV Thread, turkeynecks. - RAF
BurningBeard Posted January 31, 2020 Posted January 31, 2020 On 1/29/2020 at 10:36 AM, Brian Fowler said: Didn't Hansen basically say "fuck this" when he saw the idiots WCW wanted to pair him with? Pretty much. He came in when Ole had the book as they were always tight, not sure if he wanted to tail off his AJPW run as Baba was grooming Gordy to take over Hansen's spot. Then Dusty got the book and they wanted to pair him with the western version of the three stooges for all intents and purposes, and he decided AJPW was as good as it gets. Then Gordy messed up and Hansen continued his run as the main gaijin
The Great ML Posted February 1, 2020 Posted February 1, 2020 1 hour ago, Curt McGirt said: Who were these stooges? The Desperados...Dutch Mantell, Black Bart and Randy Colley. 2
BurningBeard Posted February 1, 2020 Posted February 1, 2020 1 hour ago, Curt McGirt said: Who were these stooges?
Curt McGirt Posted February 1, 2020 Posted February 1, 2020 Ah, so that's where the part in bold below came from Quote BIG VAN VADER/ DIAMOND STUDD/ ADBULLAH THE BUTCHER/ CACTUS JACK vs. STING/ EL GIGANTE/ STEINER BROTHERS: WCW - 10/27/91: (SCHNEIDER) So much of the spectacular idiocy of World Championship Wrestling exists outside the confines of a wrestling ring. Thus I can’t recommend The Desperados search for Stan Hansen, Hulk Hogan’s trip to the Dungeon of Doom, OZ, the Ding Dongs, The Shockmaster, The Speedboating bomb tossing dwarf, Robocop, Chucky, The Ultimate Warrior’s reflection, The Black Scorpion, the attack dogs, the Giant falling off the roof of the Cobo Arena and much more. However, the Chamber of Horrors match does a pretty good job of integrating the imbecility of WCW into one match. We got El Gigante, the Refer-eye camera, the electric chair with the switch that keeps falling down, we have anonymous masked men popping out of caskets and attacking wrestlers, we have the ghouls covered in baby powder carrying the stretcher, we have the mini cage being lowered slowly onto wrestlers, you’ve got it all. On the flip side you have Mick Foley, a man who has made his entire career on turning chicken shit into chicken salad, making the decision to save this monstrosity on his own. He does a El Dandyesque blade job, takes a dozen big bumps (including getting a wood casket lid dumped on his head) and basically turns an embarrassing spectacle into a worthwhile match. Thank you for getting me to watch that, it's a gem that I'd yet to be subjected to. I still think the Warrior's reflection was the nadir though, even above "It's not hot!" I saw that live and thought it couldn't be dumber unless Missy was describing it.
BloodyChamp Posted February 1, 2020 Posted February 1, 2020 (edited) I haven’t seen Chamber of Horrors but I’ve seen it called the greatest Wrestlecrap match ever. The Sting vs Abyss Casket Match dethroned it for a short while but most everybody went back on that. I have seen that match btw. Definitely an alltime great clustermess match. You could make a big list of junk from any territory that ran long enough to be remembered, let alone a nation promotion. Also some of that stuff ended bad after starting out as a good idea, and some of that stuff was good ideas that happened to late as the 90s were coming. Edited February 1, 2020 by BloodyChamp
Matt D Posted February 1, 2020 Posted February 1, 2020 Chamber of Horrors is worth watching non-ironically. Steiners are super stiff. 2
FluffSnackwell Posted February 1, 2020 Posted February 1, 2020 I take the Dark Order about as seriously as I did the Desperados.
BurningBeard Posted February 2, 2020 Posted February 2, 2020 I will defend the Chamber ofHorrors til my dying day. Okay, it was a goofy clusterfuck, but it was also one of the coolest ideas and visuals in wrestling as a young kid watching 1
BloodyChamp Posted February 2, 2020 Posted February 2, 2020 A good match is a good match. See the death match thread. If I like Chamber of Horrors when I watch it I’ll be proud to like it. Raven vs The Pitbulls Terry Funk and Stevie Richards vs Cactus Jack and Raven That whole series of events from Starrcade 91 involving Abdullah the Butcher that spanned over a few matches Wow I better be careful before I give away how much fun Abdullah the Butcher in WCW was for that 1 year 4
Matt D Posted February 3, 2020 Posted February 3, 2020 The biggest issue with the Chamber of Horrors is that the build was all fumbled. You'd have Control Centers where Solee would be baffled by the fact Windham was still on the heels side weeks after his turn and just weeks before the event. There were guys in there for no reason, etc. 1
Brian Fowler Posted February 4, 2020 Posted February 4, 2020 What always bothered me about Chamber of Horrors, even as a kid, was the idea that "about halfway through the match" the electric chair would be lowered. I was ten, and just baffled how they could know when the match was about half over. 1
odessasteps Posted February 4, 2020 Posted February 4, 2020 Was it at least halfway through the announced time limit?
Brian Fowler Posted February 4, 2020 Posted February 4, 2020 17 minutes ago, odessasteps said: Was it at least halfway through the announced time limit? IIRC, it didn't have a time limit
PetrolCB Posted February 4, 2020 Posted February 4, 2020 I think the only time related announcement was that the chair would lower at the five minute mark.
Brian Fowler Posted February 4, 2020 Posted February 4, 2020 49 minutes ago, PetrolCB said: I think the only time related announcement was that the chair would lower at the five minute mark. Did they say that? I swear that, at least in the selling and building the show, they just kept saying halfway
Curt McGirt Posted February 4, 2020 Posted February 4, 2020 (edited) The quality is far from 4K but you get what you deserve Edited February 4, 2020 by Curt McGirt
NikoBaltimore Posted February 4, 2020 Posted February 4, 2020 I love that the title says "Stupid match ever" If that's not by design then that's highly amusing for some reason. And yes, that match needs to be seen. Even better, get some non-fans and some drinks/other substances and just have a good ol' time. 1
Curt McGirt Posted February 4, 2020 Posted February 4, 2020 The poster is apparently French, thus the improper diction. Their match description is: Quote WCW-Chambers of Horrors Match with Sting, The Steiners Brothers,Vader,Abdullah The Butcher among others in Halloween Havoc 91. This is the most stupid match I've ever seen it's a joke. so it was on purpose. I'm gonna watch the match again, it was fun the first time anyway. 1
Matt D Posted February 4, 2020 Posted February 4, 2020 Btw I wrote a little bit about it in the second half of this: http://placetobenation.com/wtbbp-the-column-beyond-the-great-match-robbery-of-1991/ 1
Curt McGirt Posted February 4, 2020 Posted February 4, 2020 I loved Jim Ross saying "This is a lot like a Battle Royale, except there aren't any pins or submissions." D'OH! There was a lot of cage-climbing in this and I'm not sure why. Still, Cactus got hit with the lid, took a huge flying bump over the top into the cage, bled like a stuck pig, and got a goddamn kendo stick broken directly over his head. Even Abdullah took a bump on the ramp and rolled off it. We've probably seen matches with similar silliness in Lucha Underground so this doesn't stand out as much as it used to. Really it's craziest looking at the lineup of the wrestlers in that match: - Sting in 1991 - VADER in 1991 - Scott Hall - The Steiners in 1991 - Mick Foley in 1991 - Abby - El Gigante (ugh) If they had decided to get rid of all the bullshit and just had an eight-man tag, maybe a no-DQ so we could let Abby do his thing, we could have had a classic wrestling match. Even with DQs just let Abby cheat and Jack bleed and everyone else except Gigante wrestle. It would have ruled! Would have made a fun War Games too. 2
Infinit Posted February 5, 2020 Posted February 5, 2020 6 hours ago, Curt McGirt said: I loved Jim Ross saying "This is a lot like a Battle Royale, except there aren't any pins or submissions." D'OH! There was a lot of cage-climbing in this and I'm not sure why. Still, Cactus got hit with the lid, took a huge flying bump over the top into the cage, bled like a stuck pig, and got a goddamn kendo stick broken directly over his head. Even Abdullah took a bump on the ramp and rolled off it. We've probably seen matches with similar silliness in Lucha Underground so this doesn't stand out as much as it used to. Really it's craziest looking at the lineup of the wrestlers in that match: - Sting in 1991 - VADER in 1991 - Scott Hall - The Steiners in 1991 - Mick Foley in 1991 - Abby - El Gigante (ugh) If they had decided to get rid of all the bullshit and just had an eight-man tag, maybe a no-DQ so we could let Abby do his thing, we could have had a classic wrestling match. Even with DQs just let Abby cheat and Jack bleed and everyone else except Gigante wrestle. It would have ruled! Would have made a fun War Games too. At one point wasn't OZ advertised for the Chamber too?
Curt McGirt Posted February 5, 2020 Posted February 5, 2020 I was just watching the WWC that Edwin posted in the other thread and this question, which has been in my mind forever, came up: Do wrestlers wearing masks blade through the mask, or do they move the eyehole aside and cut? Or both, maybe, or wait until the mask is ripped already typically? If through the mask I'm sure they have to be extra careful not to go too deep but deep enough.
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