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  1. That was good stuff. I have more than 1 ugly duckings turned swans in my life from childhood and let me tell you their rage is real lol!
  2. Yeah wasn’t Dreamer mean to Raven first or something? And Scott couldn’t shake it and grew up to be “Raven” and kill Tommy or something.
  3. I read a bunch of this thread but not all of it. One more thing about Sting’s justification is that Savage’s history, like Luger’s was a part of the whole thing. Savage and Luger feuded in 1995 then made it a point to patch it up before 1996. Normally they would have just ignored the past there but that was a good touch. The fake Sting really was 1 of the best executed angles in history. Michael Hayes is the most underrated complete professional wrestler ever. Hogan’s heel turn wasn’t justified but since it came up it was also great. It being so great is a reason people hate him in real life. There was no payoff to it and it ruined WCW. Eddie turning heel in WCW is when this happened. He kept getting blamed for screw ups that weren’t his fault and kept getting accused of trying to steal the Cruiserweight title when all he was really trying to do was keep Syxx from stealing it. I want to say there was a good reason Raven hated Dreamer but I’m not the ECW historian.
  4. Does anybody remember this music being used for a year or so after GAB, on WCW TV when they did those taped voice over promos? The promos where they ran down upcoming shows, houseshows and all? If anybody has a link of 1 of those handy I’d like to see it. Or atleast the name of the guy who did the voice overs. Maybe then I could find one.
  5. I’ve never seen either of those shows. Are they on DVD somewhere?
  6. Wow the Dory Funk Jr 1wrestling column. That was many people’s first dose of old wrestler who discovered the internet medicine. RIP Adam Windsor. I remember many of those columns being ignored on that very busy message board except for those. People sure said what they thought about that situation. Is Don Lebarba still around?
  7. https://www.detroitnews.com/story/entertainment/2022/04/20/bay-city-wwe-hall-fame-scott-steiner-never-stopped-flexing/7365699001/?fbclid=IwAR0vVOO2HlGtEl_00Hc4zp4PdW-9BRUgXp5ViRp9CP7X0jyZf5m7lp1fOiQ#l2dlawgtgn9zk88zdib So Scott really has conceded the whole BPP gimmick. Wow. And in this article he even talks about how it was just a gimmick with little bits of frustration poking out, like most wrestling gimmicks. That article is the most words I’ve ever heard Scott the actual person say, even more than in his shoots (he was still protecting his character then). And to my point about just how good BPP was. Even Jim Cornette goes right to BPP when the question is about the Steiner Brothers. BPP was so good that his alltime great tag team is an afterthought in comparison to that character. I’m saving the induction for a rainy day along with The Undertaker’s. I saw the Tweet with Vince above. That’s 100% appropriate IMO and just plain great. I love the WWE HoF I don’t care what anybody says. They run the mfer like they want to and it’s great. The Skysrapers and the Steiner both in on the same day wow, yet they’re both overshadowed by their next gimmick.
  8. I distinctly remember a Mike Rotunda promo from CWF that was alltime bad, and at the end of it he threw his hands up and said something just far enough away from the mic so we couldn’t hear it. I’ll have to see if I can find it.
  9. I couldn’t do it. The top 300 luchadores could all be good picks anywhere on the top 10 list. That’s how many good ones there were and they were all that good.
  10. What’s everybody’s opinion on the last Doug Gilbert promo in Memphis? I won’t post it just in case it’s to much but I only recently noticed that Tommy Rich mentioned something we recently made a list of promos with that was overshadowed by what Doug said. That thread was locked but we were listing promos that mentioned steroids lol! Tommy Rich with a bomb before the nuke.
  11. Bumping this up laughing after this thread was referenced in the “worst/family” thread and I came to check out post number 1. I always thought a clean cut tag team called The Dream Warriors that came out to the Dokken album version of the song would have been epic.
  12. I remember Paul E. singing a song that Johnny B Badd wrote and it was hilarious. You read right. Paul E...singing...Johnny B Badd.
  13. Is he hated because of what he did in 1998 during that interview? I always thought he was great. He wasn’t that different from Eddie who just happened to be who caught the break booking for Bill Watts. That was really the only time a Gilbert ever stayed in one place. Them boys just didn’t do that. EDIT: reading through this thread I think it’s obvious that a bunch of these guys were great. It was just a matter of catching the break or not back when brothers rassled everywhere.
  14. I just saw the Steve Harvey, Kevin and JJ episode. Some of the corniest, silliest mess I’ve ever seen. And I’ve seen alot of TV produced by Kevin Sullivan! And JJ Dillion was the kayfabe producer for alot of it. How freaking WCW of a thing is that, still living on.
  15. I just heard about Rocky King. He was also in a current storyline once more than mentioned IIRC with JYD vs the Horsemen. He was special because he was one face that a certain group of fans saw every week, whose faced scratched that rasslin itch. That group of fans was.........us people who only got Worldwide and the Pro lol! And a great guy by all accounts. Obviously that article covered it but he also comes up in shoots and podcasts sometimes.
  16. If anybody has been through all the FB, Twitter, etc comments...like it or not Big Poppa Pump is even bigger than the Steiner brothers! Everybody goes right to BPP. Me included. My first thought was Scott with a live mic holy cow. Then I started thinking that he had to concede the character for this to happen. Then I started thinking crap I hope he’s not about to die like the Warrior. I would pay $100 to hear a live BPP pipe bomb, and I don’t really pay for wrestling related things of any kind anymore. BPP was that good of a heel and if he does concede then double cross them on the mic when he gets it in his hands he has a case as a top 5 heel ever IMO. Now...saying he was bigger than the tag team isn’t a knock on the tag team. I freaking love the Steiner Brothers. So many great matches of so many kinds, wild promos even back then, comedy relief, scared the Road Warriors off of whatever continent they were on for all those years. I mean how badass is that?
  17. I don’t think I’ve ever seen a belly to belly truly from the top rope. One guy is usually on the second rope. I did see it tried and the 2 guys almost died doing it. It was RVD and Jerry Lynn so of course they hopped right back up as soon as the smell of death went away. I don’t know how I forgot about this because that was a move I always wanted to see somebody try. And it was by 2 guys I’d have never thought would even be in the ring together let alone trying this, successfully. What a great TV match. Up there with the best ones Nitro had for so long. It was stiff as heck to. Everybody saw the power moves I bet but also Meng’s feet weren’t planted for a single one of the flying attacks and they went WHAM lol!
  18. I still say him destroying Hogan in 5 minutes after falling off the Joe Louis Arena would have worked from every angle. Short term it would have made the fans who were tired of Hogan mark out like they never had, and it would have legit scared everybody else. Long term he could have beat everybody without whoever he beat losing any heat. Then whoever beat him would have been the best babyface champion since Hulk Hogan in the WWF.
  19. And I think he jobbed to Goldberg more than anybody as all that was going on. That’s a hell of WCW thing. Being the biggest mfer out there whose also the biggest jobber. EDIT: I actually remember something in particular that was so dang bad. The Giant came out on Nitro some time close to Starrcade 98 and said he still wanted wanted Nash. Since he wanted Nash, that meant he had to beat Goldberg to get Nash (at Starrcade). Then he said if Goldberg had the balls to wrestle him he would that night. And they silenced out balls. That was a 7’4” tall man made out of steel and he’s standing there explaining something like Jack Webb would. The one non automated part was how he was dancing around just challenging Nash since you can walk out on a live wrestling show and challenge whoever you want.
  20. We about need a Good Promos That Are Not How to Cut a Promo thread. https://youtu.be/ldOnwaQfUQQ
  21. Wow I never knew about that quote. It reminds me of the time Hogan blamed Benoit and Malenko’s first to last segment on Nitro on the alltime low ratings for his last segment/main event. They’re that much alike. How about in the months leading to Starrcade that you mentioned, when he booked himself to win WWIII by eliminating that ring full of jobbers in 2 minutes while the announcers sold it like it was SCSA winning the Royal Rumble? Now he’s doing the wise old man gimmick in shoots and podcasts like he ever cared about anybody or anything but himself. He’s not the first guy to do this with 20 20 hindsight or anything but for some reason him doing it disgusts me. I can’t believe how many people buy it. Then every now and then when somebody throws him a hardball his old self comes out and he says HUHHYUCK YOU MAD DAT I MADE MONEYZ AND I BETTERZ DAN RICKY MORTON! Ricky Morton must have banged this guy’s mama. Just like he’s second only to Hogan at being Hogan, he’s second only to Jim Cornette at hating a mfer. Jim Cornette’s hatred of Vince Russo is the only hate stronger than Nash’s of Ricky Morton.
  22. Lex Luger could have a Kamala sized funny old wrestler on social media postprime if he ran with that idea IMO. I also believe he could have had full blown resurgence like The Iron Sheik did when his T-Shirt incident happened around the same time.
  23. So as usual, the initial pop was huge. The payoff was...WCW.
  24. That definitely got a pop lol and I think it was discussed in good taste on like page 2. Maybe a couple people missed it but I compared him to the Von Erich boys at the end. He was still great, especially when he showed up, but that wasn’t every night and people knew the pattern.
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