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Everything at Home Depot and Lowes costs a trillion dollars. But I own a house now.

Holy shit. Now this is a motherfucking promo. This dude is going to quickly turn himself face again with promos like this. I’m on Team Hangman.

Today's been rough as it's the 10th anniversary of my Mum's funeral, 8th July 2014. I was there 10 years ago and gone every year since. Had some lagers with her. For a while I'd pushed this date out of my mind but in recent times, it's resurfaced. Date brings it all back. My eulogy, Aje coming up, Conrad going and how upsetting it all was.

Also, the post Gulf War recession probably had an impact on people having the spending money to afford going to major wrestling shows. Also, launching those matches on the West Coast was so odd to me. I went to their MSG match and thought it was a decent crowd. Really, they should've started in Baltimore and moved it down the Carolinas down to Georgia first (or started on the South and moved it North) James

I really really wish WWE would balance better PPV time vs. match time. I understand they want to/need to have ads during their PLE's. Its the price I pay for getting WWE PLEs for only $5 to $10, there is going to be some ads. But Money in the Bank just felt even worse than usual. I swear after the Cena promo, I got up to do work around the house, did dishes, came back ten minutes later and Samantha was still finishing intros for the next match. There is just so much dead time, I wish some higher up in WWE would sit at home and watch it on Peacock and think "hmm we are hurting the at-home viewing experience, how can we improve?" It didn't used to be this bad, feels like it started when PLEs went to five matches but they still want the shows to be three hours. Anyway, the matches were pretty predictable but doing the predictable thing isn't always the wrong thing, a 'swerve for the sake of a swerve' never helps anyone in the long run. I'm really torn on the women's MITB as while I was highly sports entertained I was also concerned with the number of bad/accidental bumps. There is always a fine line between "I want to see dangerous stuff" and "I don't want to see people actually hurt" and you knew it was bad when even the commentators had to acknowledge how dangerous it looked (they didn't make that comment during the men's, which had the spots but was much more crisp). I enjoyed it! But I'm just glad no one was injured as there were some rough parts.

As we are learning - movies are only successful if parents can take their kids so they can get out of the heat

taking my friend who has never seen pro wrestling to her first indy show later this week

Dom, you’ve got some ‘splainin’ to do…

the ref appeared to be the most reluctant person to actually touch the ground also gotta note that Cactus Jack's sunset flip onto the floor was really one of the stupidest bumps that he did regularly.. I'm kinda amazed Mick is as good as he appears to be online considering all the stuff he was doing regularly 25/30 years ago

I think Marko should come back with a preacher gimmick.

I had to re-read that a few times before I realized you were talking about Christian Cage and not advocating Marko should come back with a preacher gimmick. I'm assuming Rush just refuses to go 60/40 in JTTS matches.

But then most fans would have Booed Hogan and Cheered Flair.

I wonder if there had been better TV build these house shows would have drawn better leading to a WM8 main event?

Hope everyone still have all ten fingers

I'm comin' up so you better get this party started.... So, 2024's Money in the Bank featured the first ever unsuccessful day-of Cash In with that cheeky fella CM Punk causing Drew McIntyre to lose his chance. But on the good side... it's TIFFY TIME~! for the foreseeable future. Get this party started on a Saturday night... Everybody's waitin' for me to arrive! And we're on our way to the biggest party of the year in just 4 weeks in noted party city... um, says Cleveland on here. So... okay. I mean some places in Ohio City are fun? I'm comin' up so you better get this party started. I'm comin' up, I'm comin'! Damien Priest will face GUNTHER... and hopefully lose! Cody will probably(?) face Solo Sikoa... and probably win! Let's see what else is in store. Enjoy the week! (Jesus, I'd forgotten how extremely 2001 this video is.)

Fightful has this version of the ending.

Not only the recession but the WWF's exploitation of the war caused a lot of casual viewers to turn away, then add on American Gladiators becoming a huge hit and depending on the market Superstars had to run head to head with Gladiators or got bumped to a less desirable time slot.

Fantastic promo. Hanger’s gonna make that Wembley title match a true main event when all is said and done.

who knew that Benoit would set the template for EVERY YOUNG BUCKS MATCH, EVER!?!? i would very much agree with that assessment. My initial thought was that you missed the Radicalz, but upon reflecting, they just kind of existed the first couple years in WWF. And, despite Benoit being the WCW Champ, they didn't really feel missed in WCW. Which is a batshit thing to say. But i'm trying to figure out if i mean that full stop, or just relative to the other jumpers. yes, the GG/CR is basically a hidden gem for '99 WCW. it should be talked about in the same realm as the Bill Alfonso/Beulah match i thought there was some potential for a heel Steiners vs Harlem Heat mini feud, but in typical WCW fashion, that's not what happens. Not a huge loss, mind you, but i guess the fan dynamics swinging so wildly and the complete character makeover of Scott in particular could have brought out something.

Emphasis on the CW.

https://twitter.com/AEW/status/1809980701053485154 You need to see this Jeff Jarrett promo.

Can I interest you in some MS Paint drawings of Apes?

Today was my last day at the PT weekend job. It feels great to finally be able to finish up there. I didn't think anyone really knew, since nobody had really said anything about it. But, I had people coming out of the woodwork to say goodbye to me. Both the store manager and assistant manager made a point of coming up to me and telling me that I'd always have a job there if I needed one.

WWE mingling with TNA & Bloodsport makes more sense when you view it from the TKO perspective. They just paid out MLW 20 million in a settlement they didn't want to go to trial. They just settle a UFC anti-trust lawsuit. They don't want scrutiny on that independent contractor status / antitrust lawsuits. This is their way of mitigating all that. Having something to point to and say hey we aren't trying to monopolize. There's a clear #2 and we're working with the #3s & #4s to help them out. Some of it can be a shift in philosophy because Triple H & Shawn don't see the business in those same black and white 'I need it all' terms that Vince did. But TKO wanting to keep their nose clean is the driving force I'd say.

It was a hip toss.

"Smuggler's Blues" and "You Belong to the City" are bangers and I won't hear otherwise.

I have it! Being a Joshi wrestling footage hoarder comes in handy sometimes.

Jesus that was intense and uncomfortable and fucking sad.

Thunder Interlude – show number sixty-three – 20 May 1999 "The WCW Gang convinces me that Team Madness is pretty great" We’re still a while out from a PPV, so Thunder is probably going to do more set up for the next PPV than replaying stuff to lead into the PPV like last time… Here’s Gene Okerlund in the aisle to start with an interview…Okerlund introduces Buff Bagwell…Buff’s stick work is awful…He loves poop jokes so much that I’m surprised that he didn’t get along swimmingly with VKM…Somewhere in there, he threatens the Steiner Brothers and also Randy Savage…He challenges Savage to a match later in the show… Recap: Slamboree happened…It was sort of a mess… Recap: The Steiners are back together again… I spoke too soon about Thunder being Recap Central, maybe…And these are looooooooooong recaps, too… Rick Steiner defends the TV title against Scott Putski for some reason…Rick wears a Wolfpac t-shirt…Yeah, the days of the Wolfpac as an over stable are dead and in the ground…The waste of the Wolfpac’s overness is a top five booking mistake in WCW’s Nitro Era…Putski eats his squash and is as bored by it as we are…Steiner wins with a top-rope bulldog and a shitty armbar that he can barely figure out how to put on after killing off a muted Putski comeback… Ric Flair and the Horsemen call Barry Horowitz over in the backstage area and ask him to take a dive for David…I kinda get a kick out of the growing disbelief on Horowitz’s face as he listens to the request…Ric forcibly shakes Barry’s hand…Arn and Ric ask if poor old Barry needs some more serious convincing from Dean Malenko and Chris Benoit…Ah, Barry now shakes Ric’s hand reluctantly, but willingly… Juventud Guerrera lasciviously signals for his Juvi Driver, then heads to the ring to face Billy Kidman…Tenay announces that Hulk Hogan will be on the next Nitro…Man, it’s only been a month…I just want Hogan to go away for a while…Vince Russo will forever be a super babyface in my eyes for making that happen…Kidman and Juvi stalemate on a couple of collar-and-elbows and give one another clean-ish breaks in the corner…They stalemate again and just go straight to forearms and shoves…There is a squee for Kidman, so Juvi goes to the corner and yells at the fans, drawing some solid heel heat…The pace quickens…Juvi flips out of a back suplex and lands a lariat…He can’t keep control and gets his legs kicked out from under him on a rope run…He wildly bumps and then stumbles right up into a lariat that sends him to the floor…Kidman follows with a crossbody to the floor as we head to break… Back from break, Kidman’s still leading Juvi…He lands a back suplex that he turns into a slam, then locks on a chinlock after Juvi kicks out of the cover…Kidman quickly gets Juvi back to his feet and shoots him into the ropes, but Juvi lands a facebuster and then walks around the ring, taunting the fans and peacocking while Kidman recovers…Juvi tries punches in the corner and predictably gets powerbombed out of his attempt…Kidman whiffs shortly after on a corner splash and dinks his head off the post, then tumbles all the way outside the ring… Juvi’s developed a solid heel character…He is consistently easily distracted by the crowd and would rather preen or jaw at the crowd than press his advantage…When he gets reversed – like he does here when he gets backdropped out of a powerbomb attempt – there is no doubt that he asked for it…Juvi does slam Kidman and go up for a splash, taking as much time as he wants…He dives into double boots…They reverse suplex and gourdbuster attempts until Juvi lands on the apron and snaps Kidman’s neck across the cables…Juvi follows up with a springboard headscissors and a diving crossbody to the floor of his own… Juvi dumps Kidman back into the ring and takes forever to follow…He dives right into a perfectly-shot counter dropkick that looks excellent…Kidman and Juvi flip out of one another’s moves until Kidman plants Juvi up top…Juvi forearms Kidman to the mat and preps for a 450…Kidman’s up early and crotches him…Kidman climbs back up and lands a superplex…He covers for 2.9…Kidman tries a powerbomb and gets rolled up, but that only gets two…Who will make the last mistake in this match?...It’s Juvi, who hits a missile dropkick and then takes a ton of time to motion for the Juvi driver…Kidman reverses that into a Sky High for two…He picks Juvi up and tries to slam him into position for an SSP…Juvi hops out and tries another Juvi Driver, but Kidman turns that into an inside cradle for three…Oh Juvi, had you just hit that thing ASAP the first time, you might have won…Very good television match, of course… I dig Kaz Hayashi, but I don’t understand two things…1) Why he’s still wearing Glacier’s gear…2) Why he’s earned a WCW World Cruiserweight Championship shot…Rey Misterio Jr. keeps being fed cupcakes when Psicosis should get a rematch already, dammit!...Kaz heels it up and disrespectfully slaps the champ to being the match…Well, as far as cupcakes go, Kaz is like a billion times better than Evan Karagias…They have a cool spot where Kaz snapmares Rey and sends a low dropkick to the back of his dome, so then Rey gets up and does the same to him, and an irate Kaz goes nose to nose with Rey after recovering…Kaz lands a lariat and slaps Rey again…Rey scores an armdrag and arm wringer on a rope run, so Kaz goes to the eyes… Rey is very over at this point, and it’s impressive to me that WCW’s apparently going to waste it all…Like, to the point that Rey is positioned back down the card and wrestling for the Cruiserweight Tag titles on the last show, if I recall correctly…Kaz takes over, lands an elbow, and then taunts the crowd…Rey uses his speed to dodge a Kaz corner charge and hit a diving headscissors…Rey leaps into a seated position to punch Kaz, and Kaz dumps him backward and over the top rope… And here comes Randy Savage and the ladies…Great, let’s treat this match like an afterthought…Savage gives Rey some props while Rey struggles in a chinlock…Savage accepts Buff’s challenge from earlier, then quotes a Prince Bangles song…Rey lays around in a resthold out here while Savage bigs up Rey for beating Kevin Nash…He tries to recruit Rey while Rey works out of a nerve hold…Boy did this whole segment fall apart [Editor's note: And then the segment comes right back together and makes some great television!]…Rey kicks out of a Kaz powerbomb at two…I guess Savage wants Rey to agree to a partnership with him on account of their shared dislike of Nash… So, there’s a commercial break in the middle of all this…We come back almost immediately to Rey drilling a top-rope rana to beat Kaz…Savage gets in the ring, boots Kaz out of the ring, and then pitches Rey…The fans want this to happen, and actually, as much as I complained about the match being an afterthought, I want to see Rey, Savage, and the ladies running around and causing chaos…Now, Madusa came out wearing caution tape like a sash…And now, she’s taken it off and tightened it up to make it something that you could choke someone out with…But I’m hoping that she doesn’t need to use it because Rey accepts… JOIN TEAM MADNESS, YOU IDIOT…Sorry, I’m now excited about the possibility…Aw, this little twerp isn’t going to do it…”I’ve got other plans?”…”I’ve got other plans?”…That’s like if eighteen-year-old me got asked on a date by Chae and said, Oops, no, I’ve got other plans…You deserve to get beaten up, dummy…Rey declines even after Savage asks him to reconsider, so George distracts him with a shove and Savage clotheslines him…Rey makes a comeback, but George and Mona run a distraction…Madusa kicks Rey in the gut and then Macho piledrives him…Kidman runs out for the save and has momentum initially, but Madusa gets in a kick that allows Savage to get control and hit a piledriver…They mark up these cruiserweight doofuses with lipstick… Konnan runs down for another save, and this crowd is now nuclear…Konnan goes for ten punches in the corner, and George wanders over and gives him a ball shot…Savage goes up and drops a Savage Elbow…Mona and George choke out Rey against the ropes…Mona’s out here throwing stomps in heels…Anyway, this segment fucking ruled, aside from treating Kaz/Rey like it was unimportant…I think it’s the combination of wrestlers in the ring who I never would have guessed would have crossed paths in a segment and the promise of Savage vs. Rey…I hope we get it, even as broken down as Savage is…Hell, give me Mona/Kidman or Mona/Rey while you’re at it… Recap: Raven and Saturn and Bam Bam, oh my! Horace Hogan and Vincent tag up against Raven and Saturn (w/Kanyon)…I sure hope Horace and Vincent aren’t getting a title shot…Oh who am I kidding, they obviously are…It’s WCW…For once, it’s the nWo that is outnumbered at ringside…THE FLOCK EXPLODES as Raven and Horace brawl…Saturn and Raven are so much fun…Saturn even has a fun sequence with the carcass of Virgil…The dude takes the modified Total Elimination, even!...This is the most fun Virgil’s been in ring since he killed some jobber on a random 1992 Superstars… Kanyon and Raven switch shirts and Kanyon gets on the apron to take the tag in Raven’s stead…OK, sure, why not, fuck it…Larry Z. enjoys the remnants of the nWo getting rolled by a pack that outnumbers them…I do too, actually…Horace and Virgil get a decent segment of control…Raven and Kanyon switch shirts again and Raven gets back on the apron…Saturn has to endure a couple of two counts and double-teams, but he never feels much in trouble…In fact, Horace and Virgil are in control for too long…They simply don’t read as any kind of threat…Saturn eventually gets a hot tag…Raven runs over both of his opponents, then introduces a steel chair into the proceedings…He gets two after hitting a chair-assisted drop-toehold…Horace gets the chair and swings, but hits Virgil…Virgil eats a DVD and gets double-pinned for three by Raven and Saturn both… Review: Ric Flair needs patsies to feed to his dopey son David… Dopey son David (w/Ric) faces Barry Horowitz next…The other Horsemen come down to make sure Barry does the J-O-B…They get on the apron to remind Barry of his duties when Barry’s got a little too much control of Ric’s goofy kid…Barry hilariously telegraphs a corner charge that he whiffs so that David can lock on a Figure Four…I hate this angle, make it stop… Recap: Randy Savage has beef with everyone except, somehow, Diamond Dallas Page… We’re going to squeeze a Disco Inferno match into this show even with a Macho/Buff main event on deck and only thirteen minutes left to go…Disco’s not wearing a Wolfpac shirt anymore…Boy, they just let the whole thing peter out!...I know I’ve written this before, but I can’t believe they did it!...There was money in having the nWo be defeated, and lots of it…Curt Hennig comes to the ring to face Disco…Tenay did mention that Disco is still in the Wolfpac, and he’s wearing black and red, but still… Anyway, the match…It exists for one purpose…To show how nutty and dangerous that Team Madness is…Savage and his pack of bad-ass ladies come down and attack Nash’s annoying friend who Nash only kinda puts up with, Disco…Disco actually jumped Savage as Savage entered the ring…Savage bailed and lured Disco near the ladies, who dragged him off the apron when he tried to chase Savage back into the ring…That allows Savage to get the drop…Savage posts Disco and drags his face across the cement under the ringside mats…Buff runs down for the save and to start the main event…Buff knocks Savage right into Madusa and knocks her down…The match before this happens was nothing worth discussing… So, Buff beats Savage around the ringside area and then continues the assault back in the ring…Gonna be honest, Savage made like three or four guys feel more important than they did before they ran into him on this show…If only Savage and not Hogan was the guy whom Bischoff fell in love with…Anyway, Savage fights back, but struggles to contain Buff…Buff hits a nice dropkick for two…Buff puts on a chinlock that is so ugly, even Larry Z. critiques his form…Savage grabs Buff’s tights and tosses him to the floor in desperation… Savage sends Buff into the guardrail and deposits him back in the ring…Buff gets a flash pin for two before Savage takes back over…Buff fights out of the corner and hits punches and an elbow for two…Buff chokes Savage against the ropes, so the ladies swing at him…Buff grabs Madusa, and Savage slithers out and drops an elbow to the back of Buff’s neck…Savage dumps Buff outside, beats on him, and chokes him by jabbing a chair into his throat as he lays against the guardrail…It’s a double count-out…Madusa slides the chair to Savage as Savage puts Buff back in the ring…Savage continues to choke Buff with the chair, and George and Madusa come in to hold the chair in place while Savage goes up for a Savage Elbow…Dellinger and his mooks come out to block the leap…Savage hops down and starts punching refs and mooks… Is it a hot take to say that Team Madness rules?...Because I think Team Madness rules…If we absolutely must do this whole “bust up matches, run in on every other segment” deal with anyone, then doing it with Team Madness is alright with me…Add to that a fun Juvi/Kidman match, and I dug this Thunder even with all the unnecessary down time for recaps…I give it a WOOOO…

I was working at Marvel during the Hogan/Flair series. Even with free comics that recession had me cut back my monthly MSG shows. Welll... in hindsight that had more to do with visits to Show World* *if you aren't from the greater NY Tri-State area, I do not expect you to know what Show World was... but I'm sure you can figure it out James

I thought it was a good show. I thought for sure Sol would end up turning after the match with a beat down. Evans is a mad man for that table bump. I like the idea of Page bragging about his win and beating 3 other men. Tag match was really great and I honestly was hoping we'd get a Chase U victory.

Maybe T Nox for Bash since she isn't doing anything right now then Giulia when healthy for next PLE

It was nice to see them bust out the Evolve footage for Ethan Page. Nice of them to use that tape library for something.

The most insane aspect of the Redbox bankruptcy is that Chicken Soup for the Soul Media bought Redbox.....in 2022. Two years ago some business was like "Renting DVDs out of a Kroger Parking lot will never die." And were willing to take on that company's already 325 million in debt to prove it. I love physical media. I don't love it that much.

I may be wrong, but millennials were the first generation not to have better standard of living than their parents when reaching adulthood. Gen X was still teetering on the edge of that one, but not quite falling over. So there's really no reason for millennials to automatically become more conservative after growing up, since they don't necessarily have so much to "conserve" as of yet.

As someone who often complains about WCW having matches that are too long, I actually thought it was the perfect length. There were no wasted spots in the whole thing. IMO, the match likely being carefully laid out by Savage and Flair laying out all these spots ahead of time, combined with Robinson doing an admirable job of directing traffic in the ring, made it pretty much flawless from a length standpoint. It also might be the encyclopedic example of how a match with even below average workers can be good if you lay it out right beforehand. I've seen too many matches with "meh" workers end up good at worst because of some enterprising road agent. There was a point after 1995 that stretched for maybe five or six years where pretty much every main event and Royal Rumble in the WWF was baseline good because of the agent work. My dislike of triple threat matches capped how much I'd enjoy the match. It was the best possible triple threat tag possible, which is high praise from me.

Couldn;t agree more. My comment wasn't even a dig at Punk, i don't think anyone in WWE is on Drew's level right now and i think he's surpassed both Rollins and Punk at this moment

I'm shocked McIntyre can stand up straight the way he's carrying the Punk feud.

That cash in & angle felt hella lazy to me. Like, folks continue to gush over hhh’s booking like it’s brilliant. If TK had booked something this obvious and uninteresting, the online discourse would be deafening. It wasn’t good, and Summerslam looks pretty lackluster so far.

Getting positive feedback like that is always wonderful and people telling you that you'd be welcomed back anytime is especially heartwarming. This was very nice to read.

as for Sullivan, the most subtle public tribute for Sullivan is to stiff a job guy a bunch in a match where you absolutely refuse to bump

There are some new teams in Faction Wars (5 new teams and 20 new cards) including Amethyst Asuka, Bayley and Carmilla. (Also a Rey '09 identical to the one from the Live Event chain.) 6000 points each.

Not the worst idea.

The first E3 WWF No Mercy build looks like Wrestlemania 2000 but with the menus in blue. Not much options and modes can be selected. Engrish typos. At one time signs could had been selectable, but the option doesn't come up. Only play modes are singles and tag matches. Guest ref mode is in. Only one same costume each for the 6 selectable wrestlers. Their costumes are different from the final game. Full entrances but no vids though. Ladder weapon can be obtained from the crowd. Only one early Smackdown arena. Two tables, however seems no one can't get on those tables. The backstages aren't implemented. The second and 3rd builds that were rom dumped are closer to the final game but Big Show is in and some things are unfinished like the rings and the storymodes. The press start screen is different The early story mode is the same for all belts and short. Two unused gameboy storymodes that cant be selected. Lot of engrish. Some special moves from the Muscle anime in the caw mode, (muscle buster) while other moves are omitted. The muscle moves are listed as game boy moves. Lillan Garcia was originally going to be in. The records from the old pictures doesn't work. Some of the debug is messed up around the game. The shop mode isn't fully realized. No Ironman Match. The entrances are in length down to coming down to the ring. I will post screenshots taken by me later.

I saw a short trailer on Instagram, of all places, and is that the dude from the first XMen movie playing Sabretooth?

Chelsea will sign him for £50m.

I will forever love that on one of the first indie dates he did after he got let go the first time from WWE - for IWA Mid-South - that when he came out to "Assman" and circled around the ring greeting everyone, whoever was doing commentary with Dave Prazak just started busting up laughing and remarking "I'm sorry, I have never actually heard the entire song before!"