Zakk_Sabbath Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 ALREADY they're gonna be on TV. Unless Heyman and Bischoff come out and say "Other than my comments here, you will not see me. But know that I am in charge. What you see every (Monday/Tuesday) night is my vision for (Raw/SD!). Enjoy" then I already consider it more of the same bullshit where it's the god damn Muppet Show except it's about trying to run a wrestling show instead of the vaudeville stuff. That's probably my biggest complaint when I say why I finally quit the main shows after WM. So fucking much of the main roster TV is just a show about putting on a wrestling show. Even going back years and years when things weren't half bad. "Tonight in this very ring..." or "Tag team match, playa" I mean Jesus Christ what were you gonna do if the other dudes didn't storm out there angrily? We were all gonna just hang out and watch Lugz commercials til 11? That's why literally every other current wrestling program I watch from NXT to 205 to AEW to NJPW to whatever indie stuff I find online feels so much god damn fresher: they're just wrestling shows. Not shows about running a wrestling show, just a wrestling show. I realized I said GD and JC a lot in that. I apologize for my use of religious iconography. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoneWolf&Subs Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Zakk_Sabbath said: That's probably my biggest complaint when I say why I finally quit the main shows after WM. So fucking much of the main roster TV is just a show about putting on a wrestling show. Even going back years and years when things weren't half bad. "Tonight in this very ring..." or "Tag team match, playa" I mean Jesus Christ what were you gonna do if the other dudes didn't storm out there angrily? We were all gonna just hang out and watch Lugz commercials til 11? That's why literally every other current wrestling program I watch from NXT to 205 to AEW to NJPW to whatever indie stuff I find online feels so much god damn fresher: they're just wrestling shows. Not shows about running a wrestling show, just a wrestling show. I miss Championship committees, and Presidents. Edited June 28, 2019 by LoneWolf&Subs 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 Speaking of things being promoted for RAW Braun vs Lashley - Falls Count Anywhere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoneWolf&Subs Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 2 minutes ago, RIPPA said: Speaking of things being promoted for RAW Braun vs Lashley - Falls Count Anywhere Better than those two being in a ring together. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 27 minutes ago, RIPPA said: Speaking of things being promoted for RAW Braun vs Lashley - Falls Count Anywhere EC DUB! EC DUB! EC DUB! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt McGirt Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 (edited) "Hello, my name is Paul Heyman, advocate for Vincent K. McMahon, Jr." Edited June 29, 2019 by Curt McGirt 1 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxB Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 See, they were going to just have them run the shows from backstage, but then it became a big deal on the social media and the online wrestling media, so now they think putting Paul E and The Bisch on telly is going to pop big ratings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoneWolf&Subs Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 15 minutes ago, AxB said: See, they were going to just have them run the shows from backstage, but then it became a big deal on the social media and the online wrestling media, so now they think putting Paul E and The Bisch on telly is going to pop big ratings. Ugh... That’s how you know this isn’t a real change. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultimo Necro Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 2 hours ago, RIPPA said: Speaking of things being promoted for RAW Braun vs Lashley - Falls Count Anywhere 2/3 falls though ! Anger ! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoneWolf&Subs Posted June 29, 2019 Share Posted June 29, 2019 Just now, Ultimo Necro said: 2/3 falls though ! Anger ! Has a 2 out of 3 falls count anywhere match ever happened before? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyld Samurai Posted June 29, 2019 Share Posted June 29, 2019 One thing I would like to see is they take 205 and use that as the 1st hour of RAW. That would solve so many issues. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Cincinnati Posted June 29, 2019 Share Posted June 29, 2019 6 minutes ago, LoneWolf&Subs said: Ugh... That’s how you know this isn’t a real change. We can’t tell anything yet. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted June 29, 2019 Share Posted June 29, 2019 5 minutes ago, LoneWolf&Subs said: Has a 2 out of 3 falls count anywhere match ever happened before? Besides Mexico? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoneWolf&Subs Posted June 29, 2019 Share Posted June 29, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, odessasteps said: Besides Mexico? I’ve seen Lucha brawls, but the falls are always in the ring. Edit: Looking around, I don’t see anything of that match type. You reading carnies. One of you can book the “First ever” 2 out of 3 falls count anywhere match. Edited June 29, 2019 by LoneWolf&Subs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elizium Posted June 29, 2019 Share Posted June 29, 2019 4 hours ago, West Newbury Bad Boy said: Big O? That's the Big Owe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spontaneous Posted June 29, 2019 Share Posted June 29, 2019 I finally decided to cancel my network and WWN subscription. Got New Japan World and have been enjoying wrestling again. Focusing on the positive. I'll miss NXT Takeover but it was hard to watch guys move up and disappear. I'll check back in with WWE in the fall. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted June 29, 2019 Share Posted June 29, 2019 From WON Quote Regarding the promotional e-mail blast that went out earlier today pushing Paul Heyman for Raw and Eric Bischoff for Smackdown this week as the big stars in Dallas and San Antonio, that was both legit and a subject of a lot of controversy. It wasn't supposed to be released like that and Bischoff was not even scheduled for the show. The idea is to push the idea that it's all new to boost ratings after the last few weeks. But Bischoff was not even scheduled to be in San Antonio as of this morning (Heyman was to be in Dallas but he's at every Raw). It is possible that Vince McMahon has in the last few hours or will contact Bischoff about being in San Antonio based on the advertising going out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxB Posted June 29, 2019 Share Posted June 29, 2019 Hold him up for more money, Eric! They can't fire you, they'll look really stupid! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaedmc Posted June 29, 2019 Share Posted June 29, 2019 7 hours ago, caley said: I haven’t read this but imagine some folks might find it interesting Wanted to bring this back since it was lost in the shuffle with so many crazy stories. This has a news paper clipping reprint from when Bruno beat Killer Kowalski and there's a great paragraph that says: Quote The Sammartino Championship fight wasn't the only spectacular. Good clean Dom DeNucci pinned the terrible Lou Albano who kept using illegal tape to rub the victor's eyes. I WANT TO SEE ILLEGAL TAPE EYE RUBS. 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joseph2112 Posted June 29, 2019 Share Posted June 29, 2019 6 hours ago, West Newbury Bad Boy said: And as far as "making wins and losses matter," the Bound For Glory Series was an attempt. It wasn't entirely successful, but it was an attempt. By the end of the BFG series, that was as convoluted and poorly thought through program as anything on WWE today. That is not a good defense of Bischoff. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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thee Reverend Axl Future Posted June 29, 2019 Share Posted June 29, 2019 On 6/27/2019 at 5:55 PM, thee Reverend Axl Future said: One of my immutable wrestling conclusions is that Eric Bischoff was, is and always will be shite. The man is a carbunkle on the biz. He ain't no carny because his stream of lies make no one any money. Both his alleged creativity and his stillborn business acumen have hurt the wrestling business. Oy vey, I am not even looking forward to the trainwreck... - RAF I gotta quote myself because I agree with this even more 27 hours later. - RAF, genius have brain will travel 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niners Fan in CT Posted June 29, 2019 Share Posted June 29, 2019 1 hour ago, D.Z said: "...and just remember. When this fails, I was working down in NXT and at the performance center..." 5 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Cincinnati Posted June 29, 2019 Share Posted June 29, 2019 1 hour ago, joseph2112 said: By the end of the BFG series, that was as convoluted and poorly thought through program as anything on WWE today. You're giving WWE today too much credit. Nothing is given enough thought or effort to become 1/10th as convoluted. I'll take Eric's ill-conceived slop over being in the doldrums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nice Guy Eddie Posted June 29, 2019 Share Posted June 29, 2019 I can't believe nobody has mentioned the pile of gold we may be sitting on with Bischoff back. the return of the TEAM CHALLENGE SERIES!!!! Yes, I know Bischoff claims the TCS wasn't his idea. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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