NikoBaltimore Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 If we're counting Raw/SD and Main Event/205 Live that's a tad less than 7 hours per week of mainly wrestling. That might be too much for people to sit through even with generic promos. I'd be all for it, but considering families and borderline fans go I wonder if that would be worthwhile. And if it's going to be all matches wrestlers would need to make sure they get their characters/stories across in the match. As vilified as non-wrestling are at times they're a necessary evil to break up the action. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technico Support Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 2 hours ago, joseph2112 said: I think if you look back at the last four weeks or so it is obvious that shit changes so much week to week(I am sure because of VKM) it would be impossible to really do any good story telling. If you try to follow any storyline arc its clear to anybody the "superstar shakeup" was sprung on the writers at the last minute. Even all day Monday their website reported there would be a woman's tag team match which ended up being a 8 person deal, so you know that was changed last minute. I think it would be hard to book for this much content but that isn't anywhere near the problem right now. Shit, you're right, I forgot option C: The company is still run by an insane septuagenarian with the attention span of a goldfish who changes his mind more often than my two year old. The writers could come to TV with the wrestling equivalent of Breaking Bad, quality-wise, and Vince would scrap it on a whim in favor dick jokes and whatever musclehead gives him a chub that day. That's another idea I've been kicking around. Is there any other company the size of WWE that has had the same leadership going on 35 years? Vince has been the final word on everything for the better part of FOUR DECADES. I feel like the lack of fresh blood where it counts is another reason they're so creatively stagnant. OH, and the fact that, as Meltzer as mentioned recently, their business model has changed to the point where they really don't even have to put out a good product anymore. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig H Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 Wouldn't most sports franchises run by the same ownership for decades count as a "company?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 HA! People pitching a shit fit because Braun and Roman are in the same Rome tour group is gonna get me through the rest of the day 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamBroken Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 8 hours ago, AxB said: See how the WWE put a strap on Randy Orton when he was 24, so Brock wouldn't be the youngest WWF/WWE champ in history? Who was the youngest one prior to Brock? Was it Undertaker in '91? Yokozuna, by a couple months younger than Taker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zakk_Sabbath Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 22 minutes ago, RIPPA said: HA! People pitching a shit fit because Braun and Roman are in the same Rome tour group is gonna get me through the rest of the day Reminds me of a Kevin Nash shoot interview I saw where he mentioned Bam Bam Bigelow was upset the Kliq was on the same bus during a European tour while (I think) Shawn Michaels and Razor were working every night. He objected claiming that fans following the bus could see them getting on it, while Hall's reply was that if they're following the bus and getting the same show every night, they probably get it by now... And this was 20+ years ago! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technico Support Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 44 minutes ago, Craig H said: Wouldn't most sports franchises run by the same ownership for decades count as a "company?" Good point. Where the comparison falls apart (or stays the same) is in how involved the ownership is in day to day operations. Vince has never hired a GM to run WWE and then stepped away from it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyJ Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 2 hours ago, Technico Support said: Is there any other company the size of WWE that has had the same leadership going on 35 years? Vince has been the final word on everything for the better part of FOUR DECADES. I feel like the lack of fresh blood where it counts is another reason they're so creatively stagnant. Is the Star Wars property under George Lucas a good comparison? A large devoted fan base married to the whims of an out of touch septuagenarian. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technico Support Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 3 minutes ago, JohnnyJ said: Is the Star Wars property under George Lucas a good comparison? A large devoted fan base married to the whims of an out of touch septuagenarian. LOL "Roman must look strong" is definitely Vince's "Phantom Menace." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Wilson Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 Playboy probably works too, wildly successful start-up business under one leader with a passionate fanbase that didn't change with the times despite lots of hints that it was a dying model. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(BP) Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 WCW vs WWF is definitely the Phantom Menace of Vince booking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spritenaut 32 Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 I'm trying to think who is the Star Wars equivalent of Roman. Jar Jar Binks maybe? Creative thinks he'll be successful so they push him hard; fan base reacts by hating him. Works for me. Roman is Jar Jar Binks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReiseReise Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 Isn't Enzo D'Amore Jar Jar? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eivion Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 Neither are Jar Jar Binks seeing that Roman started off loved and is only hated because of shitty booking, and Enzo is still generally liked. The analogy was just bad. BP presented the better one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyJ Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 I would say Finn. Pushed hard out of the gate with a gimmick that exists to sell toys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spritenaut 32 Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 11 minutes ago, Eivion said: Neither are Jar Jar Binks seeing that Roman started off loved and is only hated because of shitty booking, and Enzo is still generally liked. The analogy was just bad. BP presented the better one. Yeah, that wasn't one of my better ideas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyld Samurai Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 27 minutes ago, ReiseReise said: Isn't Enzo D'Amore Jar Jar? He looks like Jar-Jar 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReiseReise Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 7 minutes ago, Wyld Samurai said: He looks like Jar-Jar My thought exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamhock Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 1 hour ago, DreamBroken said: Yokozuna, by a couple months younger than Taker. The Rock was also 26 when he won his first title at Survivor Series 1998. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RRR Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 I though it was Amore? Cuppa haters round here... Also night after Mania fans are the ewoks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technico Support Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 1 hour ago, Kevin Wilson said: Playboy probably works too, wildly successful start-up business under one leader with a passionate fanbase that didn't change with the times despite lots of hints that it was a dying model. Wow. Yes, that's perfect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 "Its an upper body business." 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infinit Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 Vince = Jerry Jones? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetrolCB Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 8 minutes ago, Infinit said: Vince = Jerry Jones? "Goddamn it, Jerry! Where are the beef wraps!?" Or, per the new Prichard podcast, a mustard and tomato sandwich. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infinit Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 And Stephen Jones = HHH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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