SEPT 2016 WRESTLING DISCUSSION

[mattdangerously]

Suplex City must be located somewhere along the coast, amirite?

[Jrag]

2 hours ago, RIPPA said:

Just a reminder - last night was the random Brock/Orton house show rematch for no good reason

 

The opening few seconds was better than the entire SS match.

 

[EVA]

You can hear the air go out of the crowd the second Brock kicks out of a fucking RKO on a chair.

The moment everyone realizes they're in for the same old shit.

[Go2Sleep]

Has a moment so organically cool as the original "suplex city bitch" ever led to such a shitty long-term outcome?

[Web Conn]

The pipebomb promo resulted in Triple H vs Kevin Nash in a sledgehammer ladder match if that counts.

[nate]

1 hour ago, mattdangerously said:

Suplex City must be located somewhere along the coast, amirite?

That was platinum.

[RIPPA]

Maybe if Randy hadn't wasted time taking off his hoodie he would have won the match

[Ramo2653]

On 9/22/2016 at 8:03 AM, AxB said:

See how in the Olympics, those Mongolian Wrestling coaches were protesting a judge's call late in the match, and they stripped their clothes off as a protest? How did no Pro-Wrestling promotion steal that spot? I mean, obviously it makes the most sense for Flair to do it, but he's not managing Charlotte any more, but surely Vince would think it was a hilarious 'Bob Backlund has gone crazy' deal?

I mean, ideally TNA would steal it and have Mike Bennett be the one to lose via screwjob, but we'll take what we can get.

Closest thing would be the "Milkman" bit from Smackdown a few weeks ago.

 

[Web Conn]

Local ads here in Vegas are promoting Styles vs Ambrose vs Cena in the main event and Orton vs Wyatt for the live event next week. Gonna be a good show I think.

[MonteCarl]

I'm quite surprised that there wasn't more attention paid around here to the part in Dutch's recent interview where he said that WWE originally wanted Bunkhouse Buck to play the part of Swagger's mentor when he went all Tea Party, but when Buck couldn't do it, they changed the character slightly and gave Dutch the job.

[JohnnyJ]

At this point I don't think the audience has gotten the message that Lesnar is a strong, formidable wrestler. The problem is every single main event face has now been squashed by him w no comeuppance. So what to do now? My suggestion would be a handicap match with Cena, Taker, Orton, Ambrose and Reigns vs Lesnar.  That way everyone can take an F5 in the same match and no one has to wait around for Lesnar to have more dates.

[SirSmUgly]

Well, now is the point that you would give someone a megapush by having him beat Lesnar cleanly, like Ember Moon is probably going to do to Asuka in NXT.

The issue is that the company doesn't want anyone to get a push that might make them realize their value and become difficult to negotiate with in the future, so it won't happen. They might as well have let 'Taker win the rubber match against Lesnar or let Cena come back and beat Lesnar for that matter, since those are like the only two guys they have left on the roster who they seem to trust. 

[JRGoldman]

2 hours ago, Go2Sleep said:

Has a moment so organically cool as the original "suplex city bitch" ever led to such a shitty long-term outcome?

Like, 90% of things that are organically cool in wrestling end up having a shitty long term outcome. 

[Godfrey]

The nWo comes to mind. In fact, is there an organically cool thing that didn't overstay it's welcome in wrestling?

[SorceressKnight]

11 minutes ago, Godfrey said:

The nWo comes to mind. In fact, is there an organically cool thing that didn't overstay it's welcome in wrestling?

The big problem there is that you'd have to define how it was organically cool but didn't overstay its welcome beforehand- simply because all of wrestling booking are so dedicated on the "sure thing" that they'll let it overstay its welcome unless something else, that's equally a "down ending" for the fans- causes it to happen- either through injury (think: The Yes Movement as the most obvious example there), suspension (think: The R-Truth heel run in 2011 ending about the time it should have happened...well, because R-Truth took a wellness violation, but still about that time), the performer leaving the company naturally (rarely happened, but Loose Cannon Brian Pillman in WCW/ECW would "kind of" count there), etc.

Wrestling's just built on the ethos "Everything ends badly, otherwise it wouldn't end."

[Go2Sleep]

1 hour ago, Godfrey said:

The nWo comes to mind. In fact, is there an organically cool thing that didn't overstay it's welcome in wrestling?

Yeah, I guess I meant that it also became stale very quickly. It's crazy how Brock went from one of the best in the world to having nothing but shitty matches after Suplex City took off.

[Sammo~!]

At this point they should just do the Undertaker Royal Rumble '94 thing with Brock. Have everyone gang up on Brock, shove him in a casket, Brock's ghost cuts a promo about being the blood of all mankind, and then he flies off into space. It's perfect booking and I see no reasonable downside.

[Web Conn]

And at SummerSlam have Andy Samburgs character from Brooklynn Nine-Nine go searching for Brock Lesnar?

[(BP)]

Parker Boudreux would make a pretty good Bork Laser for the Underfaker part of the angle.

Spoiler

 

[Web Conn]

Here's Orton vs Lesnar 2 in full. it's not as bad as everyone is saying. I'd of had Orton kick out of the F-5 and have Lesnar do some more offensive before hitting another F-5 then get the pin but that is just me.

 

[Swift]

1 hour ago, Sammo~! said:

At this point they should just do the Undertaker Royal Rumble '94 thing with Brock. Have everyone gang up on Brock, shove him in a casket, Brock's ghost cuts a promo about being the blood of all mankind, and then he flies off into space.

Note: Brock died on the way to his home planet.

[DTTW]

8 hours ago, JohnnyJ said:

The problem is every single main event face has now been squashed by him w no comeuppance. So what to do now? 

Brock is Hogan in WCW circa 94 pretty much right? He probably has no desire to put anyone over and he knows Vince would probably offer him double to do a job.

13 hours ago, RIPPA said:

Just a reminder - last night was the random Brock/Orton house show rematch for no good reason.

Isn't Orton supposed to be out on concussion issues?

[piranesi]

23 minutes ago, DTTW said:

Brock is Hogan in WCW circa 94 pretty much right? He probably has no desire to put anyone over and he knows Vince would probably offer him double to do a job.

 

The difference, maybe, is that Brock doesn't give a fuck about anything but the money and so will use "doing the favor" as a tactic to get more $$$$ and that's that.

Hogan would somehow get the double $$$$$$ but also somehow never ever ever do the favor.

Brock is a smart guy in general. Hogan has a kind of smarts unique to the world he is in and so within that world, he's smarter. Like, Brock is Indominous Rex...but Hogan is T-Rex and you know who roars at the end of a Jurassic Park movie.

Brock will drink your milkshake.  Hogan already drank your milkshake yesterday and will convince you to buy him an ice cream factory and then he'll have sex with your wife while you're making the ice cream.

That didn't make any sense, but I'm sticking with it.

[JRGoldman]

2 minutes ago, piranesi said:

 

Brock will drink your milkshake.  Hogan already drank your milkshake yesterday and will convince you to buy him an ice cream factory and then he'll have sex with your wife while you're making the ice cream.

On the brightside, while I'm getting him ice cream, he'll probably be saying some super racist shit that I'm secretly recording and can blackmail him with later. 

[Wyld Samurai]

Brock would be happy just sitting at home for another 2 years. He really doesn't give a damn about the business. He's just in it for the money (as previously stated). He didn't even lay down to lose the Championship. 

Brock is a special attraction. That's all he is, and that's all he should be used for. He's not a guy to book around. In a sense he's a throwback to the days of Brody and Abby. They never did jobs and never stayed around long enough to make it obvious.