Bustronaut Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 I've never understood why sexists want women to be barefoot. The other shit about cooking and cleaning is just horrible obviously, but the barefoot thing I don't even get. It's so they can't run away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirSmUgly Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 As a kid, Greg Valentine was my second least favorite wrestler. Just bored me to tears. I will forever have a hatred in my heart for Dino Bravo as he will always be number one. There was this thing I was going to write up that I never did where I looked at three guys that bored me as a kid again and watched some of their stuff to re-assess a couple years ago. I did it with Ronnie Garvin, Greg Valentine, and Dino Bravo. What I learned is that Ronnie Garvin is fucking awesome and eight-year-old me was wrong as hell, that I was absolutely right about Dino Bravo, and that Greg Valentine has more Dino Bravo in him than Ronnie Garvin by far. It's that last one that people tend to disagree with, as Victator shows. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiji Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 Hah, I always was bored to tears by those three as a kid too. Even in high school, my friends and I would laugh at the Garvin Stomp when watching old WWF shows and was one of our go to joke moves. Now, after watching a bunch of NWA Ronnie Garvin, I can see he was very good. Valentine has some great matches but overall I tend to be pretty bored by him. His dad seemed like quite the character though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caley Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 Did anyone like Dino Bravo? Man, I used to fast-forward Dino Bravo matches like a mofo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DTTW Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 Valentine and Garvin were guys i just thought were a waste of space as a kid. Then in my 20s i saw them have what i thought was a **** blow away match in the WWF of all places and I've refused to think they're just total garbage ever since. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiji Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 Did anyone like Dino Bravo? Man, I used to fast-forward Dino Bravo matches like a mofo. Plus he almost killed Bret Hart. And he had ties to the mob. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.H. Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 Pre-Blond Dino Bravo was fun, then came the dye job and the steroids... Still don't understand from being so athletic and fun to muscled up borefest James Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwoy2j Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 Did anyone like Dino Bravo? Man, I used to fast-forward Dino Bravo matches like a mofo. Dino Bravo is one of the few guys I didn't like as a kid and that I still can't find anything redeeming about him. I used to hate Jimmy Valiant as a kid b/c I thought he was corny as hell and he looked like crap but now I appreciate his crazy mic work and how he could work the crowd. I can't find anything about Dino Bravo that I missed out on as a kid. He was a pretty boring worker and I can't think of any good promos he cut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwoy2j Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 Did anyone like Dino Bravo? Man, I used to fast-forward Dino Bravo matches like a mofo. Plus he almost killed Bret Hart. And he had ties to the mob. The most interesting thing about Dino Bravo was his death. Getting killed by some Canadian mob b/c he double crossed them on cigarette smuggling. That's a story I'd like to know more about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Guy Named Tracy Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 Did anyone like Dino Bravo? Man, I used to fast-forward Dino Bravo matches like a mofo.Plus he almost killed Bret Hart. And he had ties to the mob. The most interesting thing about Dino Bravo was his death. Getting killed by some Canadian mob b/c he double crossed them on cigarette smuggling. That's a story I'd like to know more about. There has never been an in-depth story on the murder. I would love to see an ESPN 30 for 30 special on the topic. If not, Investigation Discovery could cover it on Facing Evil, Nightmare Next Door, or even Wives with Knives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goc Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 Dino Bravo was pretty darn good BEFORE he went to WWF. If doesn't have blonde hair, give the match a chance. If he does, don't bother. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 Notwithstanding that this sort of sexist drivel is dumb no matter who says it, Greg Valentine saying this is extra funny because I always thought him to be a waste of space every time he was on screen. I know most folks like his work, but to me, this dude has no room to talk about other wrestlers not being watchable. Valentine was great. You are literately the first person have ever seen say he was less than good. Um, I'd think anybody who'd seen him wrestle in the past 25 years would also say he's the shits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramsey Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 Dino Bravo was a mob associated, bleach blonde, Canadian Ted Arcidi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammerva Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 In case you were wondering what might happen to Brock after Summerslam: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FluffSnackwell Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 The fact that I loved Greg the Hammer as a kid made it doubly sucky to meet him and have him act like a dick. Twice. I made you WWF Champion five minutes after getting home from Tous R Us with you Hammer! I never hotshotted the title onto someone faster! You made Ric Flair tap to your version of the figure four! I call bullshit on this. Guys were still submitting the good old-fashioned "DO YOU GIVE? aaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrghhhhh......YES!!!!!!!" way when Flair pussed out to the Sharpshooter like an old lady to lose the WWF Title. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spritenaut 32 Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 Re: Valentine. I wasn't a big fan of him growing up. My first exposure to him was 1/2 of the Dream Team with Beefcake followed by a lof of forgettable WWF nonsense (Rhythm and Blues) and going back to WCW as a glorified jobber. I was kind of aware of his career in the territories but hadn't seen much of it for myself. It wasn't until the mid-90's that I started seeing a lot of his 70's/early 80''s stuff in Mid-Atlantic and WWWF and really became a fan. I was kinda excited when I got the chance to meet Hammer in the mid-00's. A tiny indy called Pro Wrestling Ohio booked Valentine a number of times. I got involved with PWO in a minor capacity and attended a couple shows and tv tapings as a fan as well. So I got to meet Hammer several times. If you guessed that he was a dick, pat yourself on the back. Cause, yeah, he was. I wasn't especially surprised. Hammer was in terrible shape, looked unhealthy, had an absurd bleach blonde mullet that even Ricky Morton would think looked awful on a man his age, and generally struck me as a guy who had done way too much hard living on the road, Still, you'd like to think the guy who broke Wahoo's leg would be interesting to talk to about the territorial days, or act somewhat grateful that he was getting paying bookings at his age solely because he had been a name 20 years earlier. But, no, complete jackass. As an aside, I don't really get the nostalgia act thing. I've been involved with a few indys that brought in old guys and, yeah, they draw a crowd so it may be worth it. But guys like Neidhart, Valentine, Eaton, etc. shouldn't be wrestling. There are a few older guys who have kept themselves in shape - the Barbarian always looked great when I've seen him - but most of the legends I've seen were too broken down, too out of shape, or just too disinterested to do much in the ring or be entertaining. For every guy like Barbarian or even Jerry Lawler, who took care of himself and can still go in the ring, there are 10 Valentines or Honkeytonk Men. PWO actually gave their tag team belt to Valentine and Jim Neidhart. This was... 2007 or so. Yeah.... That's a team that should scare no one. Hulk Hogan looks more able to take a bump than either of those two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FluffSnackwell Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 Now Ronnie Garvin was the real head-scratcher as a kid if you got into wrestling in the summer of 1990 and you were renting every WWF Pay-Per-View you could find only to see this dude get chumped out constantly but read in the Apter mags that this guy had actually beat Flair for the title not too long ago. Then you later learn how Vince viewed most of these guys as nothing more than interchangeable regional scrub fuckers if their star hadn't risen under his banner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(BP) Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 I know Ronda digs wrestling, but I wish she dug it enough to break Valentine's arm and make a t-shirt about it. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobra Commander Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 So, have we cast the Bobby Riggs in this Battle of the Sexes angle yet?If this isn't a job for Damien Sandow, I don't know what is. I'd opt more towards a guy that is way more past his prime, like Riggs was. Unfortunately, guys like Curt Hennig and Roddy Piper aren't available for such a role. Chris Jericho comes to mind as somebody that could dedicate himself to being an on-screen misoygnist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Mann Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 I get your point, and Jericho crossed my mind as well. But I was more thinking guys on the current roster who weren't doing anything. If this didn't directly involve his daughter, Flair would be the absolute perfect choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig H Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 I've never understood why sexists want women to be barefoot. The other shit about cooking and cleaning is just horrible obviously, but the barefoot thing I don't even get. It's so they can't run away. If that were the case, they would wear cowboy boots. /seinfeld 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kafkonia Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 I remember being blown away when Orton busted out the Garvin Stomp. I mean, I rank that right up there with the Claw in terms of shitty pre-90s signature moves. Stomping somebody repeatedly? Bad-ass. Walking slowly around someone and stomping them in various places while they don't move? Boring and near-619 levels of business-exposing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offspring515 Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 The fact that I loved Greg the Hammer as a kid made it doubly sucky to meet him and have him act like a dick. Twice. I made you WWF Champion five minutes after getting home from Tous R Us with you Hammer! I never hotshotted the title onto someone faster! You made Ric Flair tap to your version of the figure four! I call bullshit on this. Guys were still submitting the good old-fashioned "DO YOU GIVE? aaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrghhhhh......YES!!!!!!!" way when Flair pussed out to the Sharpshooter like an old lady to lose the WWF Title. Damn...you're right...nobody tapped then...you kinda just blew my mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cool arrow Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 I remember being blown away when Orton busted out the Garvin Stomp. I mean, I rank that right up there with the Claw in terms of shitty pre-90s signature moves. Stomping somebody repeatedly? Bad-ass. Walking slowly around someone and stomping them in various places while they don't move? Boring and near-619 levels of business-exposing. Excuse me? The Claw was awesome, especially when executed by a heel wearing a black glove. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nice Guy Eddie Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 Did anyone like Dino Bravo? Man, I used to fast-forward Dino Bravo matches like a mofo.Plus he almost killed Bret Hart. And he had ties to the mob. The most interesting thing about Dino Bravo was his death. Getting killed by some Canadian mob b/c he double crossed them on cigarette smuggling. That's a story I'd like to know more about. I saw a Rick Martel shoot interview and he goes into some detail about Bravo's murder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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