cwoy2j Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 Quote Shawn Michaels did commentary for the Bret-Sid title match. He totally put Bret over as a wrestler while completely burying him as a person. We also saw the beginning of Bret's (U.S.) heel when he attacked HBK. HBK sounded like he was pilled out of his mind on commentary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetrolCB Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 Sounded like? You damn well know he was. Pilled up Shawn with a mic was like that backwards Seinfeld episode, where the key to Elaine's vault was schnapps. Nothing was held back. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorman Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 Thoughts on Royal Rumble 1997 Mr. Hughes wasn't the best bodyguard Hunter Hearst Helmsley ever had; at one point he simply watched Goldust run right past him to attack his boss. Our Man Johnson vs. Faarooq wasn't a great match, but it told the "one man vs. a gang" story very well. I loved Johnson's powerbomb of the nameless Nation member through the Rougeaus' (Reymond and Jacques Sr.) French announce table. Vader got a nice career reboot by beating The Undertaker and getting Paul Bearer as his new manager. Too bad it didn't help his career that much. The fans did not care about the lucha popcorn match. El Canek looked the best by press-slamming all three opponents. This influx of Mexican talent did not match up to the younger, faster stars WCW was using at the time. Mil Mascaras' "oops! Silly me" self-elimination from the Rumble might have been more effective if Johnson hadn't eliminated himself over the top earlier in the match to go after Faarooq. All Johnson had to do was stay in the ring, and Faarooq would have come right to him. Stone Cold Steve Austin lasted the longest in the Rumble, had the most eliminations, and won the whole thing, so he's the MVP of the show. Only Ric Flair has turned in a more complete, impressive Rumble performance. Shawn Michaels was in the perfect place of love, acceptance and success after he won the WWF title in his hometown of San Antonio. That makes it all the more amazing that he "lost his smile" only a few weeks later. He just didn't want to lose to Bret Hart, which became even more clear later in the year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwoy2j Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 Quote Our Man Johnson vs. Faarooq wasn't a great match, but it told the "one man vs. a gang" story very well. I loved Johnson's powerbomb of the nameless Nation member through the Rougeaus' (Reymond and Jacques Sr.) French announce table. IIRC, in his shoot interview, Johnson said that guy owed him money so he chose him to take that powerbomb spot and he made sure to put some extra mustard on it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fowler Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 Is that the same show he powerbombed D'Lo on a car or whatever? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyld Samurai Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 That was on a Shotgun Saturday Night iirc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetrolCB Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 The JBL sit down with Hall and Nash wasn't bad. By now, everybody's heard these things tenfold. But it was still a good watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elizium Posted September 22, 2016 Share Posted September 22, 2016 Tully Blanchard is the absolute MVP of 85/86 Crockett TV. He's carrying every episode of World Championship Wrestling. Wrestles almost every episode, has at least one interview segment, oftentimes two. His feuds with Magnum and Dusty are the centrepiece of most episodes, even above Flair's feuds with Dusty and Garvin. I've been a fan of Tully for awhile, but seeing his week to week work has been mind-blowing. Pretty amazing to see how small Crockett's basic roster was at the time. Besides JTTS and jobbers, its basically some combination of the Horseman, Russians, RnRs, Midnights, LOD, Magnum, Dusty, Barbarian, Jimmy Valiant, Ron Garvin, Sam Houston and Manny Fernandez each week. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Sweetser Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 I finally started watching WWE Ride Along - the episode with The Club and Jericho/Henry. I can't believe I haven't checked this out before because it's so much fun. Wrestling car rides are just the same no matter where you are - when you're with a good group, the trip just flies by. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammerva Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 So watching the newest Ride Along. Saxton has to realize how awful he looks in this. And if he does why the fuck would you want this as a gimmick. I guess we should be thankful they didn't do Ride Along during the 80's because who knows how offensive it would have been Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Ray Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 3 hours ago, hammerva said: So watching the newest Ride Along. Saxton has to realize how awful he looks in this. And if he does why the fuck would you want this as a gimmick. I guess we should be thankful they didn't do Ride Along during the 80's because who knows how offensive it would have been On the plus side, WWE Game Night would be throwing empty beer bottles at road signs while driving over the speed limit. This was probably the worst of the ride alongs since it was awkward family dynamic of Ric and Charlotte and the totally scripted announcers trip. Though I think I would be down for a JBL episode if the brief mention of ramming Mark Henry, D'Lo and TAKA's car because they were throwing chicken bones at them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raziel Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 Contentious Statement: After watching Survivor Series 94 and the Backlund "I feel like a God" promo, Diesel should've not gotten the title hotshotted to him 3 days later and Backlund should've had a serious run with the "I'm saving you from yourselves" character. It worked for Bret later a couple years, but holy shit that Backlund promo was the promise of something that never came. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godfrey Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 I'd agree with that. As much as I was a Bret Hart fan at the time, I was psyched for a Backlund run. Diesel winning so shortly after (and in such a ridiculous fashion) was maybe the first big disappointment I suffered in wrestling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offspring515 Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 I was 12 so Backlund was a fossil and Diesel was a cool badass. I was fucking delighted when he sent went that Howdy Doodie wannabe packing. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technico Support Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 Bad opinion that I should feel bad about? I watched the Last Battle of Atlanta and thought it was pretty dull. In that match, there any rhyme or reason to when the announcer counts vs not counting, by the way? I also started the hidden gem Windham vs Flair match and got all misty for the good old days. I know I mentioned him before, but that announcer (Tom Miller, maybe?) was the fucking best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwoy2j Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 16 hours ago, Raziel403 said: Contentious Statement: After watching Survivor Series 94 and the Backlund "I feel like a God" promo, Diesel should've not gotten the title hotshotted to him 3 days later and Backlund should've had a serious run with the "I'm saving you from yourselves" character. It worked for Bret later a couple years, but holy shit that Backlund promo was the promise of something that never came. I don't see anything contentious about that. I actually think that most everyone agrees that in hindsight, not hotshotting it onto Diesel and forcing him to be smiley, happy Diesel would've been the right call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clintthecrippler Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 1 hour ago, Technico Support said: Bad opinion that I should feel bad about? I watched the Last Battle of Atlanta and thought it was pretty dull. In that match, there any rhyme or reason to when the announcer counts vs not counting, by the way? It's not the announcer counting. It's the referee announcing his pinfall counts and his "both men are down" ten counts over the house mic since he isn't inside the ring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 1 hour ago, Technico Support said: Bad opinion that I should feel bad about? I watched the Last Battle of Atlanta and thought it was pretty dull. In that match, there any rhyme or reason to when the announcer counts vs not counting, by the way? I also started the hidden gem Windham vs Flair match and got all misty for the good old days. I know I mentioned him before, but that announcer (Tom Miller, maybe?) was the fucking best. I said the same thing on our pod with sempervive. Whether its the anticpation or being sensitized or just seeing better cage matches (magnum v tully), i didnt think it was all that special. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jstout Posted October 3, 2016 Share Posted October 3, 2016 Gotta admit, the Last Battle is a blood-soaked spectacle. Rich and Sawyer both bleed to levels where you're too busy feeling sorry for them to enjoy the proceedings. It's probably not a classic cage battle, but it is a classic spectacle. Plus, it's refreshing in this day and age to watch a cage match where both guys aren't constantly trying to get out of the damn cage. Such a silly rule. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted October 3, 2016 Share Posted October 3, 2016 1 hour ago, jstout said: Gotta admit, the Last Battle is a blood-soaked spectacle. Rich and Sawyer both bleed to levels where you're too busy feeling sorry for them to enjoy the proceedings. It's probably not a classic cage battle, but it is a classic spectacle. Plus, it's refreshing in this day and age to watch a cage match where both guys aren't constantly trying to get out of the damn cage. Such a silly rule. Maybe i am remembering this wrong, but i always thought escape the cage was mainly/purely a wwf thing. NWA was almost always a reg match inside the cage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jstout Posted October 3, 2016 Share Posted October 3, 2016 Yeah, I was saying that since WWE is the only game in town now, all the current cage matches are escape rules. I consider the escape rules kind of cheap psychology and storytelling - will he escape? Will his opponent stop him? It's too easy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sydneybrown Posted October 3, 2016 Share Posted October 3, 2016 The idea of the "escape the cage" rules back in the old WWWF was for guys like Bruno to beat the heel so badly that they would be left a crumpled, bloody mess unable to stop him from leaving. It was supposed to be a "look how badass the face is" concept. But "two men enter, one man leaves" kinda turned into "two men enter, two men try to leave" with Backlund and Hogan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt McGirt Posted October 3, 2016 Share Posted October 3, 2016 All the cage matches in '80s Puerto Rico are escape rules, which I guess they took from New York. Granted, they do commonly have the blood of NWA, but that's a given. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted October 3, 2016 Author Share Posted October 3, 2016 Since I just watched a couple - escape the cage does work better in tag matches were both members of a team have to escape. There is a lot more psychology that goes into it that way and you have more options with your story Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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