Technico Support Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 3 hours ago, HarryArchieGus said: Hurt Business properly invading AEW sounds like money to me. Replace Cedric Alexander with a suitable young or underutilized talent. I’d love to see AR Fox get another bone. I think the idea of “let’s team all these guys up because they’re all black” needs to be left in the past. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryArchieGus Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 Just now, Technico Support said: I think the idea of “let’s team all these guys up because they’re all black” needs to be left in the past. Seems more like let’s team these guys up again because ppl liked them as a team. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technico Support Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 9 minutes ago, HarryArchieGus said: Seems more like let’s team these guys up again because ppl liked them as a team. So that’s why all the ideas for adding people to the stable are about Fox, Ricochet, Moriarty… 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StuntmanCrowley Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 I liked the idea on the last page of taking Keith and Big Bill away from Jericho and teaming them with Lashley/MVP. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Log Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 For the record, I'd really, personally, prefer they not be brought in at all. As we all know, AEW's pretty crowded as it is. I just don't see anything particularly compelling that Lashley would add to AEW. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StuntmanCrowley Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 I've never been a Lashley guy, but with AEW now, I've really gotten behind the idea of "random dream matches" and it makes me happy just thinking about him v Darby/Big Bill/Dante Martin/Orange Cassidy etc. It's one of the beautiful things about AEW IMO, is that you can get these style clashes at the ready. I mean, it wouldn't have to be for long, just bring him in for some high profile matches, let him go on his way. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shartnado Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 1 hour ago, Zimbra said: Picking up two pushing-50 guys who got voluntarily dropped by the WWE ain't in the same ballpark as the radicalz. It's barely even the same sport. No offence, but I'll be pushing 50 soon enough, and if I was voluntarily dropped by my company at this point, I'd still be a hell of an asset to any other company in the same industry. Now, if the pushing 50 guys aren't willing to outwork the other guys, then obviously, don't hire them! I'm just saying that Lashley is a fucking beast that will be an asset to any company he works for until he drops dead. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Wilson Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 I think if Lashley is available and willing to join, they have to at least consider it. TK has been notoriously bad booking big/monster wrestlers, this is well established, but Lashley is almost too good to let pass by. AEW has in general been better in the last year not picking up every WWE wrestler (they didn't sign anyone from last fall's releases such as Riddle, Ali, Benjamin, and Dolph), but at the same time they can't ignore them either. I'm less sure about MVP and Benjamin, I don't know if they need another heel faction. Maybe just a Lashley/MVP combo would be fine and not doing a group would be better. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StuntmanCrowley Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 I wish Wardlow wasn't hurt. Wardlow v Lashley would definitely aid in getting me to buy a PPV. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryArchieGus Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 1 hour ago, Technico Support said: So that’s why all the ideas for adding people to the stable are about Fox, Ricochet, Moriarty… I was speaking to Lashley/Benjamin/MVP coming in. I'm okay with any fourth who could gel with Benjamin in a team no matter what their background. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikoBaltimore Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 It may also depend on what at least MVP wants to do. He said there won't be another Hurt Business or anything similar and unless he changed his tune recently I'm cool with that. They were a helluva group that was a highlight of Raw during the pandemic. Heck, I almost shared the clip where they looked like badasses standing off against Retribution. But the Dunn camera cuts were in full effect and I don't wish the slight nausea on anybody. In any event if Lashley came in wrecking fools with MVP as a mouthpiece I wouldn't be mad. I just don't see them being part of a group and likely it would be a push for Lashley to go for the world title. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamBroken Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 For what it's worth on the mention of Ricochet, MVP said last month that he originally wanted Ricochet and Cedric in the Hurt Business but was told he could only have one of them, so he chose Cedric because he thought it would help him more. I was a huge fan of Lashley's epic TNA run as champ, so would love to see him back there or in AEW, either one works for me. And always enjoyed MVP in all of his roles. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zakk_Sabbath Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 (edited) 4 hours ago, Technico Support said: I think the idea of “let’s team all these guys up because they’re all black” needs to be left in the past. I'm not sure if this came across well in my post this morning, so I'm just quoting to say that I really, really hope I didn't offend you or anyone else - I definitely 100% agree it's a relic. Add a white guy, add a lady, add a gay dude, I don't give a shit - I just mentioned a lot of Black names 1) because I dig all the guys I listed, of course, but 2) I didn't want any Black posters reading to feel like I was taking something cool away from them, or trying to make it more "palatable" for non-POC audiences or something by throwing a white dude or two in the mix. It may have been an overcorrection by me to even mention it earlier, but I had only good intentions (and also functionally, it was a legit question - I never saw them on the show, and thought it might make sense to explain why I was floating like, Big Bill and Hook for a previously all-Black stable). Edited July 23 by Zakk_Sabbath 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLowe Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 4 hours ago, Log said: For the record, I'd really, personally, prefer they not be brought in at all. As we all know, AEW's pretty crowded as it is. I just don't see anything particularly compelling that Lashley would add to AEW. That’s my gut sense of this although there isn’t quite anyone like Lashley that I can think of other than Brian Cage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zendragon Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 48 minutes ago, Zakk_Sabbath said: I'm not sure if this came across well in my post this morning, so I'm just quoting to say that I really, really hope I didn't offend you or anyone else - I definitely 100% agree it's a relic. Add a white guy, add a lady, add a gay dude, I don't give a shit - I just mentioned a lot of Black names 1) because I dig all the guys I listed, of course, but 2) I didn't want any Black posters reading to feel like I was taking something cool away from them, or trying to make it more "palatable" for non-POC audiences or something by throwing a white dude or two in the mix. It may have been an overcorrection by me to even mention it earlier, but I had only good intentions (and also functionally, it was a legit question - I never saw them on the show, and thought it might make sense to explain why I was floating like, Big Bill and Hook for a previously all-Black stable). The suits thing came from Lashley, he never specifically said it had to be all black guys but that he wanted to show that they where four successful athletes and be wanted to the group to look like successful business men (I took the subtext to mean getting away from some of the more stereotypical gangster/rapper looks that have prevailed for so long in wrestling) 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zakk_Sabbath Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 (edited) 19 minutes ago, zendragon said: The suits thing came from Lashley, he never specifically said it had to be all black guys but that he wanted to show that they where four successful athletes and be wanted to the group to look like successful business men (I took the subtext to mean getting away from some of the more stereotypical gangster/rapper looks that have prevailed for so long in wrestling) I like that, on both fronts - and no lie, it's stupid, but the suit thing is part of why I floated Joe's name earlier. If you remember back to those vignettes when he was Champion where he's sipping and smoking in a penthouse, it seems to me (again, as someone who's never seen it) like that'd be a real cool fit. I have a maybe false memory of he and MVP also having a short lived group in TNA?? 38 minutes ago, JLowe said: s my gut sense of this although there isn’t quite anyone like Lashley that I can think of other than Brian Cage. I prefer Cage in the ring by a mile (and I always back my Team Taz dudes) but I just have this gut feeling that Lashley's one of very few people who legitimately has potential to make a significant impact on the TV numbers - now, if that's a conversation better suited for that ratings/finance thread, I'm more than willing to drop it after this, but I feel really, really strongly about that point. ETA: Here's another good name I just thought of for the Cedric spot if they go the full Hurt Business route: Ricky Starks. I know he's allegedly got one foot out the door, but he's another one like Joe who I think could step right into that group with ease. And speaking of out the door, Miro would be another inspired choice, I think (though I don't really know the dynamics of the whole thing, like if that steps on Lashley's role at all - Joe's different enough in the ring that I think there's less overlap as the muscle, YMMV) Edited July 23 by Zakk_Sabbath 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technico Support Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 1 hour ago, Zakk_Sabbath said: I'm not sure if this came across well in my post this morning, so I'm just quoting to say that I really, really hope I didn't offend you or anyone else - I definitely 100% agree it's a relic. Add a white guy, add a lady, add a gay dude, I don't give a shit - I just mentioned a lot of Black names 1) because I dig all the guys I listed, of course, but 2) I didn't want any Black posters reading to feel like I was taking something cool away from them, or trying to make it more "palatable" for non-POC audiences or something by throwing a white dude or two in the mix. It may have been an overcorrection by me to even mention it earlier, but I had only good intentions (and also functionally, it was a legit question - I never saw them on the show, and thought it might make sense to explain why I was floating like, Big Bill and Hook for a previously all-Black stable). Oh no man, it’s cool. I didn’t mean to slight anyone in particular, I’m just tired of “new Nation of Domination” being the tired-ass beginning and end of creative for black wrestlers. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxB Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 Last time Samoa Joe joined MVP's stable, it was the Beat Down Clan in TNA, and the angle where Joe joined them aired the same week his contract expired and he left the company, never to return. Is Lio Rush under contract to NJPW or AEW (or neither)? Because his gimmick when he was put with Lashley (in WWE) was horrible and they deserve the opportunity to redeem it. Now, why you would sign a guy who had the talent and charisma that Lio Rush does, and then make him into a manager I don't know. Let alone taking a guy who is effortlessly cool, charismatic and sympathetic, and make him an annoying little git who runs away from the first sign of danger. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramo2653 Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 I can't remember if Lashley's TNA time lapped with MVPs and if Lashley was in the BDC but maybe? Hurt Business was money during the pandemic Raws and while I don't know if they should have brought them back, they shouldn't have broken them up when they did since there was still some meat left on the bone. Hell Lashley had some more meat on the bone in WWE IMO and I wasn't a fan of what they had going on with him post US title/Theory/Rollins feud. Regarding some combo of Lashley/MVP/Shelton in AEW, from a pure fantasy GM/booker perspective, I'm not sure if you want more older guys, but they do have names. Not sure they'll be used correctly if it did happen but who knows? I know this is an AEW thread but I'm wondering how many of these older WWE acts are going to be around. New Day is another one I think about, Kofi has been hurt more often than not and Woods has gotten hurt too so I wonder if their contacts are up if they're going to be brought back or not. The rumors around Lashley are that he got an offer but he wants to test the market so depending on what's to offer he might just stick around anyways. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StuntmanCrowley Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 I know his TNA run is universally applauded, can anyone point me in the direction of some good matches/promos? TNA/Impact is a blind spot for me unfortunately. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamBroken Posted July 24 Share Posted July 24 44 minutes ago, Ramo2653 said: I can't remember if Lashley's TNA time lapped with MVPs and if Lashley was in the BDC but maybe? In 2014, MVP, Lashley, and Kenny King were a trio unit. In 2015, the BDC formed but Lashley turned them down and feuded with them instead. 18 minutes ago, StuntmanCrowley said: I know his TNA run is universally applauded, can anyone point me in the direction of some good matches/promos? TNA/Impact is a blind spot for me unfortunately. HIs 2016-17 run was his best IMO. Some of my favorite matches included: vs. Drew Galloway (Slammiversary 2016) vs. James Storm (August 2016 iMPACT for all the titles) vs. EC3 (Bound for Glory 2016) series vs. Eddie Edwards (Destination X 2016, July 2016 Impact Steel Cage Rematch, October 2016 Impact x2, January 2017 Impact 30 min Ironman) vs. Matt Sydal (impact Desination X 2017) Promo-wise, I don't think it's online but the press conference leading up to BFG 2016 was top notch character work for him at the time. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SovietShooter Posted July 24 Share Posted July 24 8 hours ago, StuntmanCrowley said: I wish Wardlow wasn't hurt. Wardlow v Lashley would definitely aid in getting me to buy a PPV. Wardlow and Lashley wearing suits and beating the shit out of fools together as a tag team would be pretty damn epic. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RazorbladeKiss87 Posted July 24 Share Posted July 24 My biggest issue with all the sentiment on social media about bringing Lashley in is does that translate into viewers? A certain person has a large online fan base and they don't seem to be making an impact. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
username Posted July 24 Share Posted July 24 I could be mistaken but I think MVP has said in the past that he'd rather add someone not black into the group, so as I've said elsewhere this is me saying that I think The Beast Mortos would look swell in a suit 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Go2Sleep Posted July 24 Share Posted July 24 15 hours ago, Log said: In my ongoing quest for AEW to have a Road Warriors/Skyscrapers type team who wrecks fools, I think a Lashley/Hobbs combo could fill that role nicely. Love the idea, but I don't think you need Lashley for this. Hobbs/Wardlow doing this gimmick might just save both their AEW careers. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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