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10 minutes ago, caley said:

I'll be honest I don't remember where I saw him or in what context, and I've never sought out any of his earlier matches, but the few times I saw Takashi Iizuka staggering around with the metal glove and...dog collar (!??) brawling into the crowd,  I was totally all-in. From what I gleaned at the time, the general consensus was that he was terrible and ruined a lot of matches, but I absolutely loved the gimmick 

The really odd thing is that Iizuka started as a straight workrate horse in the early 90's.  There's a really good match with him and Fujinami against the Steiners at WrestleWar 92.  But things caught up to him and his whole Iron Knuckle gimmick was kinda just extending his career.  Still, I'd put his bad stuff is far above the worst stuff NJPW's trotting out now with HoT.

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11 minutes ago, Raziel said:

The really odd thing is that Iizuka started as a straight workrate horse in the early 90's.  There's a really good match with him and Fujinami against the Steiners at WrestleWar 92.  But things caught up to him and his whole Iron Knuckle gimmick was kinda just extending his career.  Still, I'd put his bad stuff is far above the worst stuff NJPW's trotting out now with HoT.

Also anyone who hasn't seen Kawada/Fuchi vs Nagata/Iizuka should correct that: https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x19bikw

 

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19 minutes ago, Raziel said:

The really odd thing is that Iizuka started as a straight workrate horse in the early 90's.  There's a really good match with him and Fujinami against the Steiners at WrestleWar 92.  But things caught up to him and his whole Iron Knuckle gimmick was kinda just extending his career.  Still, I'd put his bad stuff is far above the worst stuff NJPW's trotting out now with HoT.

That match were he is unprofessionally brutalized by the Steiners? 

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8 minutes ago, odessasteps said:

That match were he is unprofessionally brutalized by the Steiners? 

To be fair, having just watched the match and having viewed it several times, the New Japan team did a fair amount of brutalizing. I am guessing a lot of that was just the language barrier. They just absolutely went to work on each other. Now juxtapose that with very Southern rasslin match to open the card between the Freebirds and Terry Taylor and Greg Valentine.

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20 minutes ago, odessasteps said:

That match were he is unprofessionally brutalized by the Steiners? 

I mean, that describes most Steiners matches until they ran smack into the MVC, which was way more adept at brutalizing guys.

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6 minutes ago, Raziel said:

I mean, that describes most Steiners matches until they ran smack into the MVC, which was way more adept at brutalizing guys.

Definitely. It was the era, between the Stieners, Doc and Gordy and Vader. 

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8 minutes ago, Raziel said:

I mean, that describes most Steiners matches until they ran smack into the MVC, which was way more adept at brutalizing guys.

Can't brutalize Gordy and Doc, they'll just sprawl right on top of you.

The Steiners beat the hell out of Iizuka so bad that he and Fujinami had my sympathy and not the ostensible babyface Steiners in that WrestleWar match. 

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53 minutes ago, Zakk_Sabbath said:

 

Tajiri/Whipwreck was one of my favorite teams of all time. I always thought it would have been a nice idea to put them together during the Invasion angle - Tajiri and Regal's stuff was so good, I would have loved to seen Regal as the foil doing his disgusted face at Mikey's cackling and Vandenberg's creepiness.

 

Same here.  I can't tell you how many times since the fold of ECW I've watched newer teams and thought how amazing Tajiri/Mikey would've been against them.  Mikey is one of my all time favorites and Tajiri is up there as well, but they meshed so incredibly well and their offense was incredibly innovative, even by today's standards.

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The way Iizuka got injured in that match was totally an accident. Rick looked totally spooked when it happened. And honestly, the rest of that match was standard Steiner brothers fare for a lot of their work in Japan. Fujinami ain't no punk. He went toe to toe with those guys.

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9 minutes ago, Elsalvajeloco said:

The way Iizuka got injured in that match was totally an accident. Rick looked totally spooked when it happened. And honestly, the rest of that match was standard Steiner brothers fare for a lot of their work in Japan. Fujinami ain't no punk. He went toe to toe with those guys.

Iizuka was not lucky that way considering how Nagai rearranged his face.

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5 minutes ago, Robert S said:

Iizuka was not lucky that way considering how Nagai rearranged his face.

I dunno what happened but Nagai thought he was in a real fight.

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29 minutes ago, Elsalvajeloco said:

The way Iizuka got injured in that match was totally an accident. Rick looked totally spooked when it happened. And honestly, the rest of that match was standard Steiner brothers fare for a lot of their work in Japan. Fujinami ain't no punk. He went toe to toe with those guys.

I haven't watched the match recently, but that's how I remembered it happening as well. The Steiners weren't going to take liberties in a match with Fujinami anyway, since Fujinami could more than hold his own plus Fujinami still held a lot of power with New Japan, where they were making a good deal of money.

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Rick Steiner tended to overdo things in his matches pretty much throughout his career. Like Virgil must have dreaded showing up to work and seeing his name opposite the Steiners, because Rick seemed to want to brutalise him every chance he could.

The Vordell Walker thing showed up on YouTube a while ago. You can very much tell that Walker a) Didn't realise Rick was shooting on him, and b) Could have demolished Rick in an actual fight, had he realised he was in one. 

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On 5/20/2024 at 4:10 PM, Craig H said:

I’m shocked a barbed wire trampoline actually worked. 

The other things I’m trying to figure out are WTF is on the back of the dude’s head and if he broke his leg or arm or both.

Anyway, JJSB has a new wild thing to use.

Think he concussed himself pretty good when his head hit the metal frame at the end.

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5 hours ago, SirSmUgly said:

OK, who is your favorite wrestler solely because of their gimmick(s)? Not because of their in-ring or mic work. Just going off "they're terrible, but I loved their gimmick(s)."

I ask this because in the past few months, I've seen quite a bit of Charles Wright as Papa Shango, NoD Kama, and the Godfather, and I was overjoyed to see him pop up on my screen each time even though he is absolutely terrible. 

Does Survival Tobita count?

Maybe Hillbilly Jim and Uncle Elmer, or Brutus “The Barber” Beefcake.

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5 minutes ago, JLowe said:

Does Survival Tobita count?

That depends on how you feel about what makes Tobita vs. Ken the Box great.

(I am assuming that you have the correct opinion that Tobita vs. Ken is great.)

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7 minutes ago, SirSmUgly said:

That depends on how you feel about what makes Tobita vs. Ken the Box great.

(I am assuming that you have the correct opinion that Tobita vs. Ken is great.)

Yes! I do think he’s a talented wrestler in his unique style but his gimmick/character is his greatest appeal.

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6 hours ago, Zakk_Sabbath said:

Tajiri/Whipwreck was one of my favorite teams of all time. I always thought it would have been a nice idea to put them together during the Invasion angle - Tajiri and Regal's stuff was so good, I would have loved to seen Regal as the foil doing his disgusted face at Mikey's cackling and Vandenberg's creepiness.

Yoshihiro Tajiri/Mikey Whipwreck with the Sinister Minister is still one of my favourite tag teams/managers ever. The entrance music as well:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UcHp6yli70o&pp=ygUZVW5ob2x5IGFsbGlhbmNlIGVjdyB0aGVtZQ%3D%3D

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9 hours ago, SirSmUgly said:

OK, who is your favorite wrestler solely because of their gimmick(s)? Not because of their in-ring or mic work. Just going off "they're terrible, but I loved their gimmick(s)."

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You know what I love about this place? I made a completely admittedly uninformed assertation about a wrestler I knew nothing about to answer a question posed about a page back and instead of mocking me for my lack of knowledge or "well ACTUALLY..." -ing me, people provided context, explanations and even matches to seek out!

And that, in short, is what makes the DVDVR the best wrestling  discussion on the internet. Thanks again folks. 

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9 hours ago, username said:

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How dare you, MiSu is awesone!

 

Joking aside, I'll back anyone that recognizes the awesomeness of Mecha Mummy.

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Oh it's 100% Dump Matsumoto!

I don't watch Dump for workrate. I watch her to see her terrorize the pure babyfaces. There is so much to unpack with Dump. She represents hedonism through violence, the representation of the future for those in attendance if Chigusa, Lioness and the other teams aren't there to represent that which is "Good".

Dump Matsumoto isn't here to make wrestling pretty. Dump Matsumoto is there to remind you wrestling can be ugly. Dump Matsumoto is there to corrupt and corruption never plays fair!

 

I f*ckin' love Duump Matsumoto!

James

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My friends we are forgetting one VERY big one (especially for here)...

Spoiler

Antichristo butchers his promo - YouTube

DE NOMER WON, AN DE BESS~!!!

Anyway, that Vordell Walker footage is gone now, so what exactly happened? Never heard of this.

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