November 2022 Wrestling Discussion

[The Great ML]

21 minutes ago, GuerrillaMonsoon said:

Lou Thesz vs Ruckus

Nick Bockwinkel vs Nick Gage

Bruiser Brody vs Rey Mysterio

Haystacks Calhoun vs Kenny Omega

Watching Thesz stretch the piss out of Brody in the finals will definitely be something…

[Zakk_Sabbath]

2 hours ago, Octopus said:

FaAaAnTaSy FuN!

You got a Time Machine and a large Cup shaped trophy. Book an Eight person tournament. Who you picking and who faces who?

Just for fun, I put four current favorites and four all-time favorites into an online bracket generator, which randomized the seeding, and gave me the following combinations: 

Cactus Jack vs. Bryan Danielson

Randy Savage vs. Chris Jericho

Sting vs. Kenny Omega

Bret Hart vs. Jon Moxley

[Log]

3 minutes ago, The Great ML said:

Watching Thesz stretch the piss out of Brody in the finals will definitely be something…

No, it's Ruckus vs. Haystacks in the finals.

[GuerrillaMonsoon]

I've absolutely Tony Khan'd this. 

I mean, I know I'm booking Lou Thesz over Ruckus after reversing a standing SSP into a Lou Thesz Press, meeting Nick Gage in the next round after he overcomes 25 minutes of stalling to finally hack into his forehead with a pizza cutter and the ref stopping for blood loss setting up a glorious second round of Lou Thesz becoming acquainted with light tubes.

I don't really know where the second half of the bracket goes. I'm thinking Rey squashes Brody, but then from there, can Omega get Haystacks Calhoun up for the One Winged Angel?

[JLowe]

29 minutes ago, Zakk_Sabbath said:

Just for fun, I put four current favorites and four all-time favorites into an online bracket generator, which randomized the seeding, and gave me the following combinations: 

Cactus Jack vs. Bryan Danielson

Randy Savage vs. Chris Jericho

Sting vs. Kenny Omega

Bret Hart vs. Jon Moxley

I would pay good money for that

[SirSmUgly]

1 hour ago, GuerrillaMonsoon said:

Lou Thesz vs Ruckus

Nick Bockwinkel vs Nick Gage

Bruiser Brody vs Rey Mysterio

Haystacks Calhoun vs Kenny Omega

Don't know if Haystacks can carry Kenny to something good, TBH. 

[Sublime]

3 hours ago, Octopus said:

FaAaAnTaSy FuN!

You got a Time Machine and a large Cup shaped trophy. Book an Eight person tournament. Who you picking and who faces who?

1st round:

Kenta Kobashi over Eddie Kingston

Okada over Terry Funk

Samoa Joe over Barry Windham 

Eddie Guerrero over Steve Austin

2nd round:

Okada over Kobashi 

Guerrero over Joe

Finals: Eddie wins 

Edited November 29, 2022 by Sublime

[Cobra Commander]

i'm gonna chose to imagine Tyrus meeting Lou Thesz in an airport, introducing himself as the NWA Champion, and Lou asking him if he knows how to shoot-wrestle.

[Zakk_Sabbath]

16 minutes ago, JLowe said:

I would pay good money for that

Funny enough, I did a little Googling around after posting to see if Jericho/Savage may have happened between '96-'99 at like a Pro/Worldwide/SN taping  (unfortunately, no such luck) and I found a quote from Jericho saying that if there were three guys he wishes he could've wrestled in WCW, they'd be... Savage, Sting and Bret!

in conclusion: I believe I've got what you call a 'mind for the business.'

[John from Cincinnati]

2 minutes ago, Zakk_Sabbath said:

I found a quote from Jericho saying that if there were three guys he wishes he could've wrestled in WCW, they'd be... Savage, Sting and Bret!

I take it there's been no Jericho-Sting business in AEW yet because Jericho's been involved in other longterm stuff and was face for a while, but hopefully once he drops the ROH strap we can get something along those lines. Or even just a fun random tag at the next New Japan crossover like the one that got us some Sting-Bucks interaction. 

[Zakk_Sabbath]

9 minutes ago, John from Cincinnati said:

even just a fun random tag at the next New Japan crossover like the one that got us some Sting-Bucks interaction. 

I'll take that all day, that match was loads of fun. I'd love to see like, Garcia/Jericho vs Darby/Sting (or something like that) before Sting hangs it up for good. 

[Ultimo Necro]

Round 1

Cactus Jack v Jerry Lawler - blood soaked brawl all around the building that ends in a time limit draw.

Dean Malenko v Jinsei Shinzaki - Michinoku Pro style match, Malenko goes over

Bret Hart v William Regal - Bret Hart goes over in a close bout

Steve Austin v Jon Moxley - Austin over

Semi Finals

Steve Austin gets bye but does a promo anyway

Bret Hart v Dean Malenko - Bret goes over 

Finals

Bret v Austin - guaranteed another classic. I’ll let them decide who wins.

 

 

[Zakk_Sabbath]

1 minute ago, Ultimo Necro said:

Bret Hart v Dean Malenko - Bret goes over 

Man, talk about one that deserves a re-do. I was so bummed out their one Nitro match wasn't what it should have been (and only learned like, 20 years after the fact in Bret's book that Malenko is the one who left him with that legit lingering groin injury). 

[GuerrillaMonsoon]

A groin pull the likes you've never seen before in your life?

[Sammo~!]

1 minute ago, GuerrillaMonsoon said:

A groin pull the likes you've never seen before in your life?

Bret also tells a story about this in his book where he visits a Soapland on a Japanese tour 

[Octopus]

1 hour ago, Cobra Commander said:

i'm gonna chose to imagine Tyrus meeting Lou Thesz in an airport, introducing himself as the NWA Champion, and Lou asking him if he knows how to shoot-wrestle.

“Yes, I believe in the right to bare arms”

[Dolphman 3000]

1 hour ago, John from Cincinnati said:

I take it there's been no Jericho-Sting business in AEW yet because Jericho's been involved in other longterm stuff and was face for a while, but hopefully once he drops the ROH strap we can get something along those lines. Or even just a fun random tag at the next New Japan crossover like the one that got us some Sting-Bucks interaction. 

I was just talking with some people about how Jericho vs. Jarrett hasn't happened outside of a couple short matches on Nitro and Worldwide

[Teflon Turtle]

6 hours ago, Octopus said:

FaAaAnTaSy FuN!

You got a Time Machine and a large Cup shaped trophy. Book an Eight person tournament. Who you picking and who faces who?

I'd probably have to think harder about this because what I came up with feels like I'm missing something. First attempt anyway...North American bracket is Side A, Japanese bracket is side B. Mostly dream matches that I want to see or matches that the wrestlers involved have stated that they want to have, at least on Side A:

Side A:

Bret Hart vs. Kurt Angle. So they can get that dream match they've both talked about. Bret wins.

Kenny Omega vs. AJ Styles. I know they wanted to do this at a Wrestlemania. This ain't it, but I'm holding the book! But, hypocritically: they can figure it out amongst themselves who wins. To them, I don't know that the match is about that anyway as opposed to the overall performance.

Bret wins the bracket.

Side B:

Kazuchika Okada vs. Kenta Kobashi. Kobashi takes it.

Hiroshi Tanahashi vs. Toshiaki Kawada (I'm pretty sure this happened. I don't care, I want to see it again with both guys in their top form.) Tanahashi wins.

Tana squeaks by Kobashi to win the bracket.

Final: Bret vs. Tana. Couldn't care less who wins, just want to see it. 

Edited November 30, 2022 by Teflon Turtle

[Elsalvajeloco]

I could sworn the closest we got to Savage vs. Jericho is when Savage was doing the whole nutso thing when Liz was spending the "divorce money" and Savage was hitting top rope elbow drops on all the jobbers and mid carders. However, Jericho wasn't WCW at that point so the timeline is a bit off.

[Dolphman 3000]

Conrad Thompson, Nick Aldis, Mickie James and some Australian guy named Cam Vale that was formerly a soccer/baseball/hockey CEO are promoting a Starrcast convention and multi-city tour of Australia in 2023:

 

[Infinit]

7 hours ago, Octopus said:

FaAaAnTaSy FuN!

You got a Time Machine and a large Cup shaped trophy. Book an Eight person tournament. Who you picking and who faces who?

Ok let's try this.

97 Bret vs 84 Tito

88 Hogan vs 85 Nikita 

86 Flair vs 08 Cena

92 Liger vs 01 HHH

Bret vs Hogan 

Flair vs Liger

Bret over Flair.

[clintthecrippler]

My tournament:

First round:

The Assassin (Jody Hamilton) vs. The Assassin (David Sierra)

Tito Santana (WWF) vs. Tito Santana (AAA)

Doink The Clown (Matt Borne) vs Doink The Clown (Steve Keirn) - Special Guest Referee Doink The Clown (Ray Apollo)

Dangerous Doug Gilbert vs. Gashouse Doug Gilbert

Second Round:

Doink The Clown (Matt Borne) vs. Dangerous Doug Gilbert (Doink goes over here after a switcheroo with Keirn Doink)

Tito Santana (WWF) vs. The Assassin (Jody Hamilton)

Finals:

Tito Santana (WWF) vs Doink The Clown (Borne) vs. Doink The Clown (Keirn) in a 3-way hastily thrown together after the shenanigans of the previous round. WWF Tito goes over. 

[Elsalvajeloco]

It freaks me out in WWF that Keirn goes from Skinner to (when he's not being used anymore as Skinner) Doink II when Doink (Borne) is feuding with Crush to a WWF agent in the late 93/early 94. Rene Goulet and Strongbow and Garea I'm used to. Then this Corbin Bernsen looking dude rolls out there to break up a fracas and then I have to remember it's Keirn.

[John E. Dynamite]

Marty Janetty vs. Akira Taue
Rick Steiner vs. Hector Guerrero
Dory Funk Jr. vs. Christian
Sicodelico vs. [the loser of Stan Lane vs. Dennis Condrey]

Taue/Steiner

Sicodelico/Christian

Christian over Taue

Edited November 30, 2022 by John E. Dynamite

[Casey]

Randomly paired tournament:

• Kurt Angle (2007 TNA) vs Keiji Mutoh (2001 All/New Japan)
• Vader (2000 NOAH) vs "Stone Cold" Steve Austin (1999 WWF)
• Rob Van Dam (1999 ECW) vs Shawn Michaels (1996 WWF)
• Toshiaki Kawada (1992 All Japan) vs Mike Awesome (1999 ECW/All Japan)

Whatever women's tournament I'd fantasy book with a time machine, Bull Nakano would win it. 2014/2015 Bayley versus 1991/1992 Nakano would be really fun.