November 2022 Wrestling Discussion

[Dolphman 3000]

1 hour ago, Cobra Commander said:

During one of the WarGames matches last night, I did think "what crazy stuff would Sabu do in a setup like this"

 

Edited November 28, 2022 by Dolphman 3000

[Sammo~!]

4 hours ago, (BP) said:

The Nasty Boys have a King Ralphesque ascendency to Dukedom, and Regal must give them etiquette and decorum lessons. Along the way Regal picks up Nastyisms the same way normies in Pauly Shore movies start talking about munching on grindage. Laughs abound. 

I love the idea of a Reverse My Fair Lady where Knobbs and Saggs take Regal in and attempt to turn him into the Nastiest Boy. Instead of "The Rain in Spain" the big setpiece is Regal singing: 
 

 

Edited November 28, 2022 by Sammo~!

[Cobra Commander]

“Regal, to beat Finlay, we will take you to Nastyville and make you the Blackpool Bruiser”

[Cobra Commander]

If the NFL doesn’t work out for this guy, there’s always room for people with no regard for their well-being in pro wrestling 

A 6’2/300lb guy who wouldn’t see the downside to using the diving headbutt as a finish.

[Elsalvajeloco]

5 hours ago, Sammo~! said:

I love the idea of a Reverse My Fair Lady where Knobbs and Saggs take Regal in and attempt to turn him into the Nastiest Boy. Instead of "The Rain in Spain" the big setpiece is Regal singing: 
 

 

If it could only top one of Glenn Gilbertti's few positive contributions to the wrestling world, which was redoing Konnan's 2nd Mad One theme and singing "Oil of Olay, all day everyday". TBH I kinda wish he had did Psycho cause the dude is talking about owning a bus and a skeleton playing on a cello.

Sidenote: Speaking of music, I was today years old when I found out this wasn't a WWF/Jim Johnston creation:

[Concrete]

12 hours ago, odessasteps said:

Guessing not the former NWA champion people wanted 

This made me look at the recent former champs and WOOF. The actual answer is they should have flown in Tenzan. He's used to working meaningless multi-man tags.

[StarChief EagleDemon]

15 hours ago, odessasteps said:

Guessing not the former NWA champion people wanted 

Would have laughed uproariously if Shane Douglas got up from commentary and was the mystery partner.

[Unnatural]

Wrestling "journalism" in 2022

 

 

 

 

 

[worldcupfever]

13 minutes ago, StarChief EagleDemon said:

Would have laughed uproariously if Shane Douglas got up from commentary and was the mystery partner.

Was he doing commentary?  I actually considered him as a possibility based on their history in WCW.

[just drew]

20 hours ago, tbarrie said:

Oh, he's absolutely that. Road Dogg sucked. But the Cody tweet you were referencing didn't talk about talent, it talked about drawing and being memorable. I'm quite confident that quite a few people left arenas remembering the New Age Outlaws' act, and as I said, I'd even go so far as to call them a second-tier draw.

In other words, you or I may not have much respect for the way he got over, but one can't deny that he was in fact extremely over at one point.

1000% this. As someone who was square ass in the middle of WWE's target demographic during that time, Road Dogg was over as hell. It wasn't just the catchphrase. Dude could cut a promo. I'd dare say after Austin, Rock, and Foley, he might've been the most dynamic promo in the company for a time. I don't recall him being an overtly bad worker, either. He just didn't do a whole lot other than the "shake rattle & roll" punches, the pump-handle slam, and a few other generic things. Guy was a) pretty pilled up at that point and b) smart enough to know what got him there. 

[StarChief EagleDemon]

2 hours ago, worldcupfever said:

Was he doing commentary?  I actually considered him as a possibility based on their history in WCW.

I actually thought the same! I went to the show and heard his voice over the PA, so I think he must have done the announcing on FITE.

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[JLowe]

I don't read any of them, but my sense is Meltzer gets something wrong and then 1000 clickbait dirtsheets/Twitter accounts/FB pages post his mistake as <siren>BREAKING<siren> news because all they do is steal shit from him, and it spirals from there

[Unnatural]

 

 

 

[John from Cincinnati]

We could probably generate our own fresh anti-Meltzer takes rather than importing what 115-follower Donnie thinks. 

[sabremike]

12 minutes ago, JLowe said:

I don't read any of them, but my sense is Meltzer gets something wrong and then 1000 clickbait dirtsheets/Twitter accounts/FB pages post his mistake as <siren>BREAKING<siren> news because all they do is steal shit from him, and it spirals from there

Given that the entire industry is literally built on lies and deception the fact Meltzer only gets as few things wrong as he does is actually a testament to how good he is. I grew up hating the guy as an ECW fan feeling he was the "enemy" but as I got older I realized that he was in fact correct on almost all his views and reporting on the promotion. 

[odessasteps]

16 minutes ago, John from Cincinnati said:

We could probably generate our own fresh anti-Meltzer takes rather than importing what 115-follower Donnie thinks. 

I'm happy to do that.

[Dolphman 3000]

31 minutes ago, sabremike said:

Given that the entire industry is literally built on lies and deception the fact Meltzer only gets as few things wrong as he does is actually a testament to how good he is. I grew up hating the guy as an ECW fan feeling he was the "enemy" but as I got older I realized that he was in fact correct on almost all his views and reporting on the promotion. 

Meltzer gets worked by his sources on a lot of stuff (New Japan attendance numbers come to mind), but that's not entirely his fault - it happens in all forms of journalism

[Unnatural]

 

 

 

 

 

 

Getting triggered by follower count

[notoriusvig]

The media and journalism in wrestling is certainly way more demonized than even in politics, etc., in America. We have so few good journalists, and the ones we have are crucified if one thing goes wrong or goes out of plan with what they're told or if fans just don't like what they're saying. Thankfully, we have a ton of great historians and writers in wrestling but we need more good journalists like Dave. He really doesn't get enough credit for being credible and covering the business and following trends for over forty years.

[Octopus]

Going back and getting caught up on Arn’s podcast. Simply phenomenal as they go through old promos leading up to angles, etc by each month. Got me wondering; How long was NWA/WCW on the Super Station before Nitro? When Nitro started up, did they have a long history on national television to build off of?

Also, was WCW’s title lineage and company history something that continued off of the NWA or more of a strict break off schism?

Asking as someone who grew up a WWF kid, but retroactively enjoys the podcasts and matches on YouTube.

[Dog]

1 hour ago, Unnatural said:

 

 

 

 

 

 

Getting triggered by follower count

Are you just posting your own tweets?

[JLowe]

39 minutes ago, Octopus said:

Going back and getting caught up on Arn’s podcast. Simply phenomenal as they go through old promos leading up to angles, etc by each month. Got me wondering; How long was NWA/WCW on the Super Station before Nitro? When Nitro started up, did they have a long history on national television to build off of?

Also, was WCW’s title lineage and company history something that continued off of the NWA or more of a strict break off schism?

Asking as someone who grew up a WWF kid, but retroactively enjoys the podcasts and matches on YouTube.

NWA wrestling (under the Georgia Championship Wrestling territory) was part of the original TBS Saturday evening broadcast when it became a superstation in 1976. The show changed its name to World Championship Wrestling in 1982, and after a brief fiasco involving WWF buying the time slot in the mid-80s, Jim Crockett Promotions took over the timeslot, and JCP was a direct lineage from GCW to what became WCW and Nitro.

Edited November 29, 2022 by JLowe

[Infinit]

I'm sure QT is just heeling...but it's still pretty funny