Casey Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 I enjoy fantasy booking XWF with EWR. They had a roster with a nice mix of talent, old and new. It's a weird mix of WCW, and TNA before it even existed. Absolutely a snapshot of that moment in time for wrestling, too. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victator Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 The early 2000s were a strange time for wrestling and maybe culture in general. Every one went in a different direction. Half the indies tried to recreate ECW, some tried to recreate WCW and some indies went in their own direction. Which I'm not a huge ROH fan, but I admire they did their own thing and became successful. I don't know why XWF seemed so intent on imitating 2000 WCW. Then again TNA does and they are somehow still alive, so what do I know. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MORELOCK Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 12 hours ago, Horton Hears a Wooo!!! said: PPV's aren't driving the revenue any more, so - literally - why not? Because Network subscriptions are driving the revenue. Also "why not" isn't a great reason to run a match in general. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwoy2j Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 11 hours ago, OSJ said: Shitting on Justin has been a cottage industry for over a decade, most of it from IWC fans that weren't even around at the time. No one is ever going to confuse him with Ric Flair or Jumbo Tsuruta, but a big part of the ECW mystique was that on any given night, anyone could win. Justin was a perfectly serviceable champion who could have a good match with just about anyone. It made all the sense in the world to put the strap on him. I remember Scott Keith would always call him The Jellyfish in his reviews. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(BP) Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 XWF just needed a television deal similar to the one TNA had with Spike. Vince killed it (inadvertently) before it even got off the ground by signing the biggest names from the tapings they were using as the network pitch. There's no reason to believe it wouldn't have ultimately failed anyway, but there was a window of opportunity there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted August 6, 2017 Author Share Posted August 6, 2017 Vince signing Lawler (and some of the other guys) before XWF got its TV deal was very much advertent 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Sorrow Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 8 hours ago, sevendaughters said: I take your point but this kind of stuff devalues PPVs that are already struggling to justify the Network cost for many. The model is really fucking with the way they create meaning in a lot of avenues. The cost that's the same as my lunch every day? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabremike Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 3 hours ago, cwoy2j said: I remember Scott Keith would always call him The Jellyfish in his reviews. Yet another reminder of how awful Scott Keith and his clones were. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sevendaughters Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 1 hour ago, Johnny Sorrow said: The cost that's the same as my lunch every day? well that's as maybe but we all saw the quarterlies lead to cuts. People are not coming on board and consensus is that things are largely stale. I'd rather have a good lunch now than the Network for a whole month. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Lord Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 3 hours ago, RIPPA said: Vince signing Lawler (and some of the other guys) before XWF got its TV deal was very much advertent Vince knew what he was doing for sure. You don't sign Lawler, Hennig, Hogan and some others just for the hell of it a few days after they taped what would have been like two months of shows for the right buyer. It was a pretty damn calculated move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirSmUgly Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 1 hour ago, Johnny Sorrow said: The cost that's the same as my lunch every day? Every day? What are you, a trillionaire? Make a damn sandwich at home every once in awhile, bruh. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MORELOCK Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 2 hours ago, Johnny Sorrow said: The cost that's the same as my lunch every day? Get a load of the big timer here! Why don't you gift me a Network subscription if you've got money to burn? I've been using a friend's since I fell on some hahhhd times. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nice Guy Eddie Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 8 minutes ago, MORELOCK said: Get a load of the big timer here! Why don't you gift me a Network subscription if you've got money to burn? I've been using a friend's since I fell on some hahhhd times. DiBiase was my favorite of those Survivor Series vignettes. Mr. Perfect being thankful for being absolutely perfect is a close second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lacelle Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 Piper's was my fav Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Ray Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 I saw Samoa Joe retweeted this story on Twitter, apparently Yoshihiro Takayama is paralyzed from the neck down: http://middleeasy.com/mma-news/mma-pro-wrestling-legend-yoshihiro-takayama-paralyzed-wrestling-accident/ saw Alan I think google translated a linked story: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nice Guy Eddie Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 50 minutes ago, Lacelle said: Piper's was my fav I'm thankful for the cocaine that helped create these memorable promos. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 10 minutes ago, Rev Ray said: I saw Samoa Joe retweeted this story on Twitter, apparently Yoshihiro Takayama is paralyzed from the neck down: I hate this. Words fail for something terrible like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted August 6, 2017 Author Share Posted August 6, 2017 I am so confused though If the match occurred on May 6 how are people only finding out now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 They said at the time he had a neck injury, but have kept it private until now it seems. A magazine reported on it this week and the above is actually translations from it from KakutoLog. It wasn't a DDT either, I believe he hit his head on the mat taking a sunset flip from Yasu Urano. He had been tagging with Danshoku Dieno, so he's not exactly been doing what he did earlier in his career. http://kakutolog.cocolog-nifty.com/kakuto/2017/08/post-4911.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shibata Is My Homie Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 45 minutes ago, steve said: I hate this. Words fail for something terrible like that. I heard about this a few months ago and then nothing else was mentioned on that site. Shame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 As stated, they just didn't give any updates probably due to privacy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt McGirt Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 FUCK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eivion Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 This is damn shame to hear. I didn't even realize Takayama was hurt earlier in the year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 Unless you follow DDT, there's little chance you'd have heard of it happening outside a few websites. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 Here is exactly when it happened. DDT “TOYONAKA LOVE STORY 2017”, 05/04/2017 Osaka Toyonaka City Rose Cultural Hall 340 Fans – No Vacancy 4. HARASHIMA, Soma Takao & Yasu Urano defeated Yoshihiro Takayama, Kazusada Higuchi & Shunma Katsumata by TKO (12:45). As an addendum, Takayama was the one doing the sunset flip to Urano when he hit his head, making it much more violent sounding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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