matt925 Posted May 3, 2023 Share Posted May 3, 2023 I think that’s it, aew live ppv and back catalogue will move to max just like wwe network and peacock. They must have the new deal pretty much in place and the new show and potentially the ppv move is all part of the new deal to extend dynamite, they just have to announce it. Feels like good news compared to the doom and gloom when the merger happened. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zakk_Sabbath Posted May 3, 2023 Share Posted May 3, 2023 9 minutes ago, matt925 said: Feels like good news compared to the doom and gloom when the merger happened. Agreed - and for the record, I fully recognize my participation/willingness to buy into said doom 'n gloom at times. March '01 still very fresh in my mind! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
For Great Justice Posted May 3, 2023 Share Posted May 3, 2023 Daddy Magic on color can’t just go away like this. Get my dude a show. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Adam Bay Bay Posted May 3, 2023 Share Posted May 3, 2023 24 minutes ago, For Great Justice said: Daddy Magic on color can’t just go away like this. Get my dude a show. Hey Dax’s podcast co-host needs work. Get Daddy Magic doing a weekly pod. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StretchMediatedHypertrophy Posted May 3, 2023 Share Posted May 3, 2023 Dark and Elevation finishing makes me very sad indeed. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt925 Posted May 3, 2023 Share Posted May 3, 2023 57 minutes ago, Zakk_Sabbath said: Agreed - and for the record, I fully recognize my participation/willingness to buy into said doom 'n gloom at times. March '01 still very fresh in my mind! Oh dude like every other day was a new headline. Everyone involved with tnt is gone, cancel every hit show, cancel movies that are finished, lay off thousands of people, slash 3 billion, might not renew nba. It was brutal. I’m feeling optimistic now the industry needs this to be a good deal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zakk_Sabbath Posted May 3, 2023 Share Posted May 3, 2023 (edited) 20 minutes ago, matt925 said: Oh dude like every other day was a new headline. Everyone involved with tnt is gone, cancel every hit show, cancel movies that are finished, lay off thousands of people, slash 3 billion, might not renew nba. It was brutal. I’m feeling optimistic now the industry needs this to be a good deal. Not to be a negative Nancy, but I will say this: I think the first few days/weeks after the deal is made are *still* going to be insufferable, purely because WWE broke the scale with those ridiculous Fox/Peacock deals. I'll bet ya lunch every disingenuous bad actor with an Internet connection is going to be 'disappointed' with the # no matter what it is. It's a little bit off topic, but IMO, I think a large part of why WWE was finally sold is because they knew they couldn't reach that kind of figure again - now, with the new company, they at least MIGHT come close by trying to bundle UFC content into the mix Edited May 3, 2023 by Zakk_Sabbath Bringing it back around: Honestly, it wouldn't shock me if TK attempted something similar with ROH (or is planning on it at some point) 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExcellenceofAirPollution Posted May 3, 2023 Share Posted May 3, 2023 I'm completely blown away by the pre-sale numbers. Was thinking 30k in the building would be a huge success even if it didn't look great on TV and they've blown past that. Already a massive success without a card or even wrestlers announced. Bravo AEW!!! I'm interested to know how many of those went to scalpers. I have no idea how accurate they were or how he got them but a while back Meltzer was giving 'ticket broker' numbers for AEW (and IIRC some WWE) pre-sales. With such a big stadium and so many tickets out I wouldn't think there'd be huge demand in the secondary market, but maybe there will be for the premium tickets... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zendragon Posted May 3, 2023 Share Posted May 3, 2023 2 hours ago, John from Cincinnati said: Wonder what "AEW Wrestling content will air exclusively on WBD" might spell for future PPVs. At least with All In, seems like AEW is getting into the Premium Live Event business. I thought WBD owns a piece of Bleacher Report and was pushing for more ppvs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt925 Posted May 3, 2023 Share Posted May 3, 2023 17 minutes ago, zendragon said: I thought WBD owns a piece of Bleacher Report and was pushing for more ppvs Bleacher report is owned by wbd but I feel they wouldn’t decide to make that the only way to order ppv. I feel it’s going to max for “free”. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elsalvajeloco Posted May 3, 2023 Share Posted May 3, 2023 2 hours ago, SprintingFromAmerica said: Dark and Elevation finishing makes me very sad indeed. I think the larger story coming out of this that's both positive and negative is the quiet death of supplemental programming that also in a way served as shoulder programming. Once wrestling went national, it elevated what pro wrestling was just cause there was a great demand for it. Syndication was still big, big business and being in different markets made a huge difference to your bottom line. During the down period in the 90s, it helped keep pro wrestling alive cause people still took it serious enough where you can do angles and storylines on those platforms along with the occasional major match here and there. Now? Promotions are getting paid top dollar to do live televised shows and the more, the better. You're essentially allowing viewers to pick and choose with zero hesitation. Moreover, it's taking away another critical part of the business. House show/live events served in the role of allowing wrestlers to get more comfortable with their craft and work out their matches. By the time they got to TV they could call in the ring and know exactly what to do. You're also learning the style and ways of the promotion and how to integrate what you do best by blending it in. You're working with someone (whether singles or a tag team) so frequently that you know their strengths and weaknesses. People would have A match, a B match, and sometimes a C match. So just judging by the time they're allotted on TV, they already had it figured out and could work in whatever finish they needed to do. The supplemental programming like Superstars, Challenge, Worldwide, Pro, WCW's Main Event, and post Nitro era WCW Saturday Night added onto to that because you're getting all the benefits of what you did on house shows/live events with the added advantage of now being able to start introducing your work on television. In addition, the talents that weren't doing as much on the main shows or were brand new to that particular promotion could begin flourishing. You could also see what was and wasn't getting over, and what was or wasn't going to translate once it made television. You had levels to what made pro wrestling and each level was extremely integral. They folded right into each other. By killing these parts of the pro wrestling business, you're making a lot of pro wrestlers (many of them who are as green as astro turf) to work without a net. Pro wrestling is as sink or swim as it's ever been. I dunno if that's the best way of going about evolving pro wrestling. It's certainly better for the physical toll in many ways and probably better in terms of benefitting mental health and home life. However, just purely in terms of what impact it could have on the business, it could majorly affect the overall growth of the pro wrestlers themselves and their career progression. You're robbing Peter to pay Paul. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zendragon Posted May 3, 2023 Share Posted May 3, 2023 Most local Indy’s in my area run monthly or quarterly. Make you wonder where the Parker Bourdouxs or Jade Cargills are supposed to get reps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenalysis Posted May 3, 2023 Share Posted May 3, 2023 6 minutes ago, zendragon said: Most local Indy’s in my area run monthly or quarterly. Make you wonder where the Parker Bourdouxs or Jade Cargills are supposed to get reps That's what the AEW house shows and going from local indy to local indy is for. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxB Posted May 3, 2023 Share Posted May 3, 2023 Wrestling Open in Worcester MA runs weekly (on Thursdays, even). And a lot of the regulars, you see them improving in front of your eyes. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Cincinnati Posted May 3, 2023 Share Posted May 3, 2023 Think I saw people speculating on this 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey Posted May 3, 2023 Share Posted May 3, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, ExcellenceofAirPollution said: I'm completely blown away by the pre-sale numbers. Was thinking 30k in the building would be a huge success even if it didn't look great on TV and they've blown past that. Already a massive success without a card or even wrestlers announced. Bravo AEW!!! I'm interested to know how many of those went to scalpers. I have no idea how accurate they were or how he got them but a while back Meltzer was giving 'ticket broker' numbers for AEW (and IIRC some WWE) pre-sales. With such a big stadium and so many tickets out I wouldn't think there'd be huge demand in the secondary market, but maybe there will be for the premium tickets... Meltzer said on Twitter that only a few hundred All In tickets were on StubHub as of yesterday. Edited May 3, 2023 by Casey 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolphman 3000 Posted May 3, 2023 Share Posted May 3, 2023 2 hours ago, Jenalysis said: That's what the AEW house shows and going from local indy to local indy is for. Jade doesn't work indies and she isn't advertised for any AEW house shows There was some report that said she wanted to tour Japan to get better, but we'll see if that happens 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevieNippz Posted May 4, 2023 Share Posted May 4, 2023 (edited) 6 hours ago, John from Cincinnati said: Wonder what "AEW Wrestling content will air exclusively on WBD" might spell for future PPVs. At least with All In, seems like AEW is getting into the Premium Live Event business. Can't be worse than using Bleacher Report to watch a PPV. What a nightmare. Hadn't read all the posts yet and now am seeing that WBD owns B/R as well. I'll still take it on Max, as I've never had an issue watching anything on that app. Bleacher Report is where I go if I want a spotty connection and a nightmare UI Edited May 4, 2023 by StevieNippz More info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Octopus Posted May 4, 2023 Share Posted May 4, 2023 1 hour ago, John from Cincinnati said: Think I saw people speculating on this Wow. I loved his podcast with Denise Salcedo. I was sad to hear he was stepping away from all his wrestling podcasts but happy he was doing something he wanted in life. Cool to see it’s with AEW! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziggy Posted May 4, 2023 Share Posted May 4, 2023 1 hour ago, Octopus said: Wow. I loved his podcast with Denise Salcedo. I was sad to hear he was stepping away from all his wrestling podcasts but happy he was doing something he wanted in life. Cool to see it’s with AEW! I started listening to his podcasts a few days ago. I'm not as familiar with his work but that's definitely a great move. As a black man myself it's great to see him in that role , Especially with his knowledge of pro Wrestling. WWE has so many people in creative roles without experience or the love or much knowledge of wrestling and even if they do , they can't apply it which is why I don't understand why they are finally getting law suits like that 1 former writer got on them last week. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted May 4, 2023 Share Posted May 4, 2023 I didn't realise Orange Cassidy is 38. Just found out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Octopus Posted May 4, 2023 Share Posted May 4, 2023 49 minutes ago, Ziggy said: I started listening to his podcasts a few days ago. I'm not as familiar with his work but that's definitely a great move. As a black man myself it's great to see him in that role , Especially with his knowledge of pro Wrestling. WWE has so many people in creative roles without experience or the love or much knowledge of wrestling and even if they do , they can't apply it which is why I don't understand why they are finally getting law suits like that 1 former writer got on them last week. I’ve mainly listened to him with Denise and they had a really fun show where I’d see if there was anything I needed to check out that I missed or of a company I normally don’t watch. I like the idea of bringing in fresh voices. I’m not sure of the specifics of what his day to day would be, but you couldn’t bring someone in better who comes across levelheaded, has good taste and opinions, and an all around kind person to have on the team. I haven’t met him personally but he seems like a good dude and people say he is nice. Good for him and good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt McGirt Posted May 4, 2023 Share Posted May 4, 2023 Dunno who dude is but Tony most definitely needs a right hand man instead of doing EVERYTHING himself. If this guy can be his Pat Patterson (or even his Chief Jay Strongbow) then good deal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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JLowe Posted May 4, 2023 Share Posted May 4, 2023 2 hours ago, Curt McGirt said: Dunno who dude is but Tony most definitely needs a right hand man instead of doing EVERYTHING himself. If this guy can be his Pat Patterson (or even his Chief Jay Strongbow) then good deal. Someone on Twitter (maybe Bix) said that he was a DVDVR member (or former member). 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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