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  1. If we're being objective there's really three Triple H's. 1. In ring performer Triple H 2. Backstage political Triple H 3. Executive / NXT booker Triple H 1. In ring performer Triple H was one of the best technicians of the last 20 years. Now I will be the first to admit his intentionally slowed down territory heel act from 2003 - 2005 was a chore to watch. That character was heel and he was trying to be hated, but he did it in such an unenjoyably way. It was so unenjoyable that everyone universally despises it and it taints the objective view of his ring work. 1998 - 2002 Triple H was fucking awesome. The 1998 Rock IC Title feud and ladder match was very good. 1999 Triple H putting all the pieces together finally was fun as hell to watch. 2000 Triple H was the best in the world at the time having dope matches with everyone from Taka to Foley to Jericho and everyone in between. Plus that killer love triangle story. 2001 Triple H was just as good but the injury derailed him. 2002 Triple H was not quite as good, but he was so incredibly over when he came back that it carried him to a solid year. From 2006 on he was basically an amalgamation of the peak good Triple H mixed with bad territory Triple H. Never bad in the ring. But never quite hitting that peak run. But he still had great matches with Batista and Cena. Less great tag stuff with DX. Mostly bad stuff against Orton. Then you have part time Triple H who was still quite good. The Bryan WM match being the peak. Some good Undertaker WM matches. A few solid Lesnar matches. The bad Punk / Nash stuff. Overall his run in ring is pretty favorable if you're being honest. But what truly taints that is... 2. The backstage politics of Triple H are unparalleled. From latching onto The Clique, to marrying the boss' daughter, to complaining that Kurt Angle was too small to be believable... this is by far the worst aspect of his legacy. His slow Harley / Flair territory in ring stuff also coincided with him holding down a whole host of more likable performers. He was outspoken about not believing in Jericho, and Edge, and Booker, & RVD, & Angle. And when he finally did put someone over it was Goldberg who was universally hated at the time. Which multiplied the resentment. But then you do have to give him credit for going all out for the guys he did believe in. He put Benoit over strong as fuck. He put Batista over strong as fuck. He put Cena over strong as fuck (even if it was undermined by the choice to acknowledge Cena "can't wrestle"). As time went on he also undercut Punk among others. He squashed Booker again when Booker was at his absolute peak doing the king gimmick. Political Triple H is probably close to the most detestable political animal wrestling has ever had. But a lot of that has softened over the years because... 3. Executive / Booker Triple H is one of the best of the last 20 years. He took a floundering developmental program over and completely molded it into smart fan's ideal dream promotion. FCW was nothing. Games show NXT was nothing. But Triple H's vision merged them and turned them into the most fan friendly thing WWE has ever had. We can argue if his NXT prepared guys for the main roster. But that point is moot in my opinion. There's nothing that can prepare anyone for that. Because the "main roster" is literally just whatever Vince's whims are. They change constantly. And he only likes what he likes, regardless of how ready you are. We got a prime studio wrestling show mixed with a super indy mixed with some names that we never thought would get a foot in the door. The matches and characters that really worked REALLY FUCKING WORKED. Bayley, baby face Sami Zayn, ect. He revitalized tag wrestling in WWE (for a short period of time). He completely re-imagined women's wrestling by giving them the platform to do what they were always capable of. He went from probably the most hated personality in the business to being sent fruit baskets by those same ranting fans. Un-fucking-matched. He's not Rock/Cena/Hogan. He's not Undertaker/Andre/Lesnar. He's more like mixing the careers of Ultimate Warrior, Macho Man, & Pat Patterson. He's not on my mount rushmore for wrestling. But for me he absolutely is on the mount rushmore of executives / bookers / creative minds. Under rated and simultaneously over rated for in ring performance. Unparalleled for backstage political fuckery. But when both of those were out of the picture, one of the best fucking ever when using his mind for the benefit of others. Legit a legendary & iconic figure with no true equal. He's one of a kind. And in a lot of ways that's harder to accomplish than being an Austin/Rock transcendent figure. There's no road map for the shit Triple H was able to accomplish.
    10 points
  2. Here's a Verne story you might like Gordlow. In the late 90s when he was reffing for ECCW in British Columbia, me and 3 friends would drive up there from Seattle every month to go to the shows. On one show they had a ladder match for ECCWs cruiserweight title. For some reason neither guy was able to get the belt down as it was stuck on the hook it was hanging from. They powder outside, Verne climbs the ladder to get the belt loose. He loosens it and takes it off so he can hang it back up and we immediately start chanting "VERNE'S THE CHAMP! VERNE'S THE CHAMP!" which makes him laugh hysterically. The next month the same 2 guys were doing a promo arguing over the belt when Verne comes out, grabs the mic and says "You heard these people last month, I'M THE CHAMP!"
    9 points
  3. Wrestling is littered with guys who though they were better than they were. Hunter is possibly the best of that bunch, and one of the few who got to try to pull it off. He was a good character worker, but not the kind you build a promotion around. They tried it anyway. He had charisma, but not the kind to break out into mainstream crossover success. They tried it anyway. He was a good wrestler, but not a superworker whose strengths lent themselves to epic in-ring classics. They tried it anyway. He had a good physique. So they booked him in a posedown with Scott Steiner. He had a couple of storylines where he was devious and manipulative. So they dubbed him the Cerebral Assassin and had him... hit people with sledgehammers and play-act necrophilia. He was ultimately, ironically, a solid B+.
    8 points
  4. I always thought the reaction to this was, no pun intended, an extreme overreaction. Two notes: 1) I somehow doubt he wanted to get pulled over. 2) He was busted for 18 grams of pot and five Vicodins, the latter of which was a charge thrown out when he produced a prescription. You mean to tell me the guy who consistently referenced pot for over a decade got busted for a relatively miniscule amount of pot? Shock of shocks. So you're going to throw out your entire booking plans and third brand expansion because the guy who used to have shirts that say RVD 4:20 and appeared in High Times magazine got caught with barely over half an ounce of pot? After you've employed him for five years? Seriously? I don't know. Seems strange to me.
    6 points
  5. You guys briging up the Eliminators made me have to watch this again and laugh my ass off EDIT: NSFW for F-bombs
    6 points
  6. Oh dude... now I want Serena Deeb with Regal & Co.
    5 points
  7. NOT COOL that they had Hook no sell the curse. Not cool.
    5 points
  8. Would make sense as challenger for Jade Cargill. "A Storm is coming" [chuckles]
    5 points
  9. I think Triple H had fairly decent to good TV matches with Test, Big Show, Bubba Ray, Spike Dudley, Taka Michinoku, and Tajiri.
    4 points
  10. Apropos of nothing, but I think it’s possible WHO FRAMED ROGER RABBIT? is actually underrated.
    4 points
  11. Agreed. No-selling a head drop is one thing, but that was a bit much.
    4 points
  12. Danhausen will end HOOK's undefeated streak. The Casey knows.
    4 points
  13. When they were trying to set up a Hart Foundation vs NoD feud by implying that the Harts were racist, Bret refused to do it.
    4 points
  14. I demand that the fourth Chinatown movie be called The Two Jessicas.
    3 points
  15. Anyone that does an over-the-top defense of HHH full of questionable "facts" and actually uses the term "best for business" in the process is clearly a troll.
    3 points
  16. They're building him up slowly as they should. Talk of tnt titles after a few matches was silly, especially in AEW.
    3 points
  17. Triple Triple H. Regardless of anything else I think his place in wrestling will always be as one of the hardest working guys in the business. He was rarely in anything other than spectacular shape in ring, somehow stayed clear of the demons of the kliq, poured a ton of time and energy into NXT. My favourite Triple H thing ever is in (possibly season 1 of) Tough Enough and he is taking about intensity and back bumps. It’s hilarious but frightening at the same time.
    3 points
  18. I was thinking about this earlier, and I feel like if they can continue to juggle the roster effectively, the cycling of wrestlers in and out - combined with the company's willingness to let talent work elsewhere - can serve as a sort of ersatz territorial system, where talent runs less of a risk of getting overexposed by being on tv every week for eight years. Of course, there's no guarantee it works. They'll have to keep a lot of plates spinning, and there's always the chance of alienating people who feel like they should be getting tv time when they aren't. But it will be interesting to see how it pans out as the years go by.
    3 points
  19. Fun show that surpassed my expectations, the hot crowd really makes everything way more fun. Opener was a great big guy fight with way more intensity that I anticipated. Tag match was pretty good and Angels looked great, he’s very overlooked guy. Not sure if the Fuego vs. HOB was a planned program or if it just the result of the super hot sequence from last week but I’m glad we’re getting it. This was a fun segment and a pretty good lil promo by Fuego. Main event was great stuff with both guys coming off as HUGE stars with help from the crowd and the excess of personality from both. It’s refreshing to see how into the “mid card” the AEW fans are since there’s so much talent all over the show. I thought Ricky came off great and I’m again grateful that we’re getting him featured on a weekly basis now.
    3 points
  20. While they shouldn't have made any explicit reference to Sammy's line from Wednesday, Dan Lambert should have come out with his TNT title belt wrapped in clear plastic.
    3 points
  21. I disagree, all of those people could have been used effectively on the main roster if they moved them up with a plan. They pulled people from NXT, gave them new characters that didn't suit them and/or never pushed them in a way that made the audience care. That's not HHH's fault.
    3 points
  22. At this rate, "we fucked on it" should just be an AEW running gag. Fuego showing off his nice, newer car? Tay and Sammy slide in to casually mention that they christened the backseat an hour ago. Excalibur promoting AEW's first show in a new arena? Tay and Sammy interrupt him to explain how they did the deed in the bleachers there last week. Jade shows up and is proudly showing off her new cape? Tay and Sammy exchange knowing glances and slyly point out conspicuous wet spot on the back of it. And so on.
    3 points
  23. OK. Lets see if I can explain this. Meat in Japanese is "niku." The numbers 2 and nine are " ni" and "kyu" more or less. So the 29th is meat day, and to celebrate Mos Burger in Japan is offering special Okada Kazuchika collaboration burgers on April May and June 29th. If I manage to get one, I'll let you know about it. Maybe in the merch or food threads.
    3 points
  24. Blousons Noirs (Claude Gessat/Marcel Manneveau) vs Jacky Corn/Gass Doukhan Noirs were such a great heel act. Not long after this, a fan tries to attack the REF! for not doing a better job and they let the good guys take over again for a bit to cool things off. And here's Manneveau stooging like a king.
    3 points
  25. It has a genuinely good film noir plot, like it’s the unofficial third CHINATOWN film. But more to the point, no one has ever acted opposite animation as well as Bob Hoskins does in this film, and he was basically in uncharted territory at the time.
    2 points
  26. Here is a North Jersey native perspective on St. Peter's: I grew up about 15 miles from St. Peter's. Jersey City was labelled as a "hardscrabble suburb" today by the Washington Post. But I've never seen a dumber description. JC is a city on its own with its own history and unique culture. It's become a bit of an "it" town in recent years. But JC is all over the map. Literally. The city is shaped like some bizarre jigsaw puzzle. St. Peter's is on Kennedy Boulevard, which is the main road throughout the maze that is JC. It's in a rough part of the city. You know how college campuses are leafy and green? I'm not that familiar with the SPU campus aside from driving past, but I think it's like six or seven buildings on one street. My hometown is really diverse. I had friends who went to schools like Cornell and Georgetown and friends who went to community college. The big Catholic school in my part of the state is of course Seton Hall, which is a lot of middle class kids with a fair amount of kids whose parents went there. It's not that selective and big-ish. I thought I was going to go to The Hall my entire life before I wisely decided to go away for school. St. Peter's had a reputation of not being a "real" school. I hate that term so much, even though I probably said it. North Jersey is filled with a lot of schools that aren't "real" schools. There are the cheap two-year community college, and a few state commuter colleges that have 10,000 students or so. And there are also a few small private/Catholic schools that accept anyone and are struggling financially. My friends whose parents had some degree of money all went to "real" schools. If you were a kid whose parents maybe didn't have as much money, Rutgers is a "real" school for you. The state commuter colleges aren't elite level selective obviously, but they aren't guaranteed locks to get into. The smaller private schools need the tuition money and will essentially accept anyone, but they also are generous with financial aid. A lot of kids who didn't have parents who went to college went to those schools. I was an underachiever in high school. I had the aptitude to get into a "real" school but my grades were crap. I was "doomed" into one of the schools described above if I stayed local, and I got made to feel like crap because of that by some guidance counselor type people, because I'd have to go slumming with kids who were considered to be barely college material. Like I said before - I went away to college. And I went to a small Catholic college in Philly that accepts pretty much anyone and is struggling financially. La Salle is D1 and in the A-10, but we're bottom feeders. A lot of my friends were city kids who came from nothing. A lot of my friends had to work actual jobs while also in college, too. But what I learned about not going to a " real" school was that the faculty were there because they actually liked teaching and they had small classes. We didn't have TAs they could hand things off to while they chased clout at some stupid academic conference. And then I grew up and found my way and actually did well in college. And a lot of my friends were the first in their families to go to college, too. St. Peter's is THAT school. When they show the kids partying back at campus -- it's an actual diverse college. Those are kids who have to take buses to get to English class on time. Or they have a used car that barely works and they have to hope there's enough parking. Or they have to figure out how to take a mid-term because their manager is making them work that shift. And the Jesuits who run that school have a chip on their shoulder because they aren't at Boston College or somewhere like that and a decent amount of the faculty went there when they grew up in Jersey City and now they may live in Verona but they want to give back. Kids from SPU or Caldwell College or St. Whatever all have to send out resumes when they graduate. They compete for jobs with the kids who went to the "real" schools. It's not like there are huge active alumni associations where they can help you cut the line. Their student loan debt is a lot harder to deal with than someone who has parents they can fall back on (like me.) This is such an awesome awesome awesome ride. Kids who go to the SPUs of the world get overlooked but work harder than someone who was able to go to a "real" school. They really deserve this win for once. I hope they bury Duke.
    2 points
  27. 2 points
  28. Fujiwara (me) headbutting Taka. WCW vs nWo World Tour.
    2 points
  29. Forgot to mention I laughed when Jericho made reference to all the “Keith Lee looks like the kind of guy…” memes that have been popping up in the last week.
    2 points
  30. O'Reilly and Fish are fantastic. Tho, not a fan of their weak take on 'Total Elimination'. I can't say that I've seen anybody perform that maneuver anywhere near as well as Saturn/Kronus. Jay Lethal's promo ability has certainly stalled his ascent in the past. That said, I don't feel any need for Lethal to win titles or be anything more than he already is. No need to criticize the Lethals, Neses, Kazarians, etc. for their middle ground roles and lack of upward mobility. They provide very well where needed. Happy to hear Nyla get a chance to work the stick again - often funny and underrated mic work. Speaking of which, terrific promo by Fuego. I love continuing the Fuego-HoB pairing. And stoked for the inevitable Stu/Uno/? bout. The production on this taped show isn't perfect, but seems to be improving. I dig how much they try to fit in. Production also helped save that referee's (didn't catch his name) placement botch for the finish of the Main Event. Had they chose that wide angle there would be a lot more complaints about referee stoopidity and Starks not being DQ'd. Yep! Swerve has personality in spades, and all the ability in the world. Regardless of any sloppiness I've enjoyed his work thus far. Whether he is able to move passed the unnecessary flippy dip don'ts will remain to be seen. There's a lot of special performers tucked into this exciting 2 on 2. The feel out thus far has been fun. I suspect exceptional results. God bless that supportive crowd in Austin!
    2 points
  31. For those who will be in Dallas next week, below is the announced show information for the MLW events on Thursday 3/31 & Friday 4/1 at Gilley's. Both are MLW TV tapings. Thursday is Intimidation Games, while Friday is Azteca Underground. -- MLW Intimidation Games - Thursday, March 31st - 7PM CT Gilleys - 1135 Botham Jean Blvd - Dallas, TX 75215 Tickets: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/mlw-intimidation-games-major-league-wrestling-tv-taping-tickets-167809118591 Triple Threat for the World Heavyweight Championship Alex Hammerstone vs. Jacob Fatu vs. Mads Krugger Davey Richards vs. Richard Holliday (with Alicia Atout) LA Park & LA Park Jr. vs. Gangrel & Pagano nZo’s Open Challenge Women’s Featherweight Bout Shazza McKenzie vs. Holidead EJ Nduka & Calvin Tankman vs. The Bomaye Fight Club World Middleweight Championship Myron Reed vs. Mystery Opponent Several mystery matches will be revealed night of event. Also scheduled to appear: Ross & Marshall Von Erich, Cesar Duran, Matt Cross, TJP, 5150, Hijo de LA Park, Gino Medina, Arez, Aramis and more! DAY OF EVENT INFO The schedule is as follows: 5:30 p.m.: Early entry for front row ticket holders 6:00 p.m.: Doors open for general public (all ticket holders) 7:00 p.m.: Showtime MLW Azteca Underground - Friday, April 1st - 2PM CT Gilleys - 1135 Botham Jean Blvd - Dallas, TX 75215 Tickets: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/mlw-azteca-underground-major-league-wrestling-tv-taping-tickets-260726860057 Alex Hammerstone & Marshall Von Erich & Ross Von Erich vs. Mads Krugger & King Muertes & Richard Holliday (with Alicia Atout) Azteca Apocalypto Match LA Park vs. Jacob Fatu Bandido vs. Flamita 4-Way For National Openweight Championship Alex Kane vs. Puma King vs. ACH vs. Myron Reed KC Navarro vs. nZo El Dragon & Microman & Aerostar vs. Mini Abismo Negro & Arez & Mystery Partner Mexican Lumberjack Match Aramis vs. Gino Medina Octagon Jr. vs. Matt Cross Holidead vs. Chik Tormenta Plus Cesar Duran Meet & Greet! Also scheduled to appear: 5150, Davey Richards, LA Park Jr., Hijo de LA Park, Savio Vega, EJ Nduka, Calvin Tankman and more! DAY OF EVENT INFO The schedule is as follows: 12:30 p.m.: Early entry for 1st & 2nd row ticket holders 1:15 p.m.: Doors open for general public (all ticket holders) 2:00 p.m.: Showtime Estimated Run Time of Show: 3 hrs. What does my ticket include ? All tickets include access to the live Azteca Underground wrestling show and tour of Cesar Duran’s office. You must purchase add-on additional tickets for the meet and greets. The pre-show Lucha Lunch is exclusive to 1st and 2nd row ticket holders only.
    2 points
  32. That would be great. My first guess was Mia Yim.
    2 points
  33. THAT Lambert line (and his and Jericho’s previous misogynistic lines) was what bugged me, the rest was inoffensive but lame.
    2 points
  34. There were a few people on one of the sections to the upper right of the ring from camera perspective who were getting the chants going all night. Also, to be fair, the rest of the Rampage card gave us a bit of a rest. But yeah, we were super hot for Starks and Swerve and they delivered. The Rhodes-Archer fight was fine, Dustin did his thing but live it was a little plodding at times, and it was just before it happened that we learned that there was a backstage story behind it (we don’t see most of the backstage stuff from Dynamite, but they showed a lot of it in the break between Dynamite and Rampage). I was stoked to see Dustin finally but I wanted a better match and opponent. Since @Gordlowmentioned it, I manifested both House of Black AND Hook in long, meaningless segments, I really need to reconsider my “powers”. The HoB-Dark Order feud might be good at least. Ten was probably the most over in the tag, and he and Silver are by far the most popular of the Dark Order. I like Kyle O’Reilly for some reason, he just seems like some dude who wrestles as opposed to a pro wrestler. Hard to explain, maybe the way he carries himself and his demeanor in the ring. Anyway, that was a fine match but again a let down from what all we had previously. Nyla had a squash. I appreciate Tony giving Nyla a push during their Texas shows. Main event was great, very competitive and sure there were a couple of awkward spots but they meshed really well and it did a good job of protecting Swerve and building Starks and the larger angle. Tangential, but if Jericho wants a Sports Entertainment faction Starks should be his #1 recruit. They didn’t give us a Keith Lee match, despite him building a chunk of his indie resume in Austin, but him and Hobbs just clubbering for a couple of minutes was fun. After the cameras were off, he and Swerve shook hands and I wouldn’t be surprised for a tag with those 4 next week, or soon.
    2 points
  35. The funny part about that clearly fake rumor is that this offseason has been so crazy, its actually somewhat believable.
    2 points
  36. Quite frankly, we call them "Championships", Pal.
    2 points
  37. EC3 gives off a lot of Zenk/Roma/Bagwell/Ryback crybaby energy. You know, "The fact that I lifted for cut means I should've been a huge star!" As far as politics go, I'm sure that EC3 is like a lot of conservatives in the business right on up to VKM himself who pine for the days when wrestling drew a conservative working class/jock fanbase as opposed to the nerd culture fanbase it's become, nerd culture of course being extremely leftist. But hell both parties right now are pretty much held hostage by their extremes, and both extremes are very eager for you to see anyone who disagrees with them as an evil bogeyman. There's plenty of people here who'd label me a bigot in various ways for things I believe, but then again I go to conservative sites and get called a pussy cuckservative because I'm not interested in helping Jesse Kelly reform the Confederacy for Civil War 2. I've said it before, but 20-odd years of internet agitprop ain't really done anyone any good.
    2 points
  38. I think the CYN thing is tricky, because if you are an Extremely Online person then it's really clear that they are running the exact same rhetorical playbook as various shitty far-right internet chud groups. It's all the same phrases and winks and nods and not saying exactly what you mean. But I can also see it just scanning as eccentric weirdness if you're not already familiar with that milieu.
    2 points
  39. There are countless wrestlers with better and worse careers, but I don't know how many people have had more interesting careers than HHH. By interesting, I'm not taking about any of the stuff that happens onscreen, but all the conversations that we've had about everything outside of the ring. Whether he was unfairly punished for the curtain call, or his behind the scenes politicking, or turning NXT into something that made us had hope for the future of WWE, he's been fascinating to talk about for 25 years.
    2 points
  40. On Phil's podcast him and somebody else were going through Kendo Nagasaki (the Japanese one)'s career and said that Dusty at one point billed him as Chang Chung. The non-Phil guy did a Dusty impersonation and said "I SEE YO NAME IN BIG LIGHTH... CHANG CHUNG." I about fell over.
    2 points
  41. Phew. I loved The Batman. I did not love The Joker interacting with Riddler scene. It didn't feel organic. The deleted scene does feel more organic and adds a layer of desperation to Batman trying to solve the case. But boy am I not a fan of this Joker's aesthetic. Bald patches and scraggly hair from deformity? Big swollen up alcoholic nose? Jacked up teeth? Deformity causing the smile, kind of? No sir I don't like it. I thought the actor did an excellent job in the scene. I just hate the look. I agree it's Gotham TV level character design. I hope it gets tweaked before his next appearance. I think Heath Ledger knocking it out of the park has kind of warped how Joker is viewed. His take was way outside of the box, visually. Now they're trying to one up that look by going more disfigured. And I think that's a poor decision. At least out of the gate. It's better than scene kid gangster Leto version. But not by much. This is supposed to be the grounded version of Batman. But here you have a dude so mangled up he's probably need to be in a specialized care facility. 89 Joker, Dark Knight Joker, & even Leto Joker were all far more realistic than this one. Again loved his performance. And the scene. But that look is a swing and a miss for me.
    2 points
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