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If anyone missed it, I did a bit on AEW storytelling alongside this week's writeup: http://segundacaida.blogspot.com/2024/11/aew-five-fingers-of-death-114-1110.html
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Matt D started following AEW TV - 11/6 - 11/12/2024 - Paint It, Pac and AEW - NOVEMBER 2024
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Maybe I'm a little too close to it but I get what in character Mox is trying to do. I personally feel that as World Champion (and trios champs) he has leverage to get away with certain things from a matchmaking point of view. It's capitalism and you support the thing making you money as a company theoretically, even if it's disruptive. I know people who think he needs some more explanation than that. He thinks people are goofing around too much, that the wrestlers aren't hungry, that they're complacent, that they're not fighting for their spots, that the company has gone soft and isn't hungry like it was when it first started and they had to fight for their life so he's trying to make everyone better by pushing them. But he's a heel so there's also a layer of hypocrisy and patronizing and bullshit in there too. That the real life guy also feels a bunch of things and is willing to do interviews (as he is the champ) blurs the line but maybe not in the world's worst way.
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Matt Watches 1989 AJPW/1986 NJPW on a Treadmill
Matt D replied to Matt D's topic in The PROFESSIONAL WRESTLING
I think Curt has it right with the expressiveness or lack there of. That's what stood out in the Yamazaki match. Yamazaki felt so much more alive in the moment. Anyway, good news everyone: there are four 2/4/88 matches so I don't have to watch Takada vs Koshinaka yet. Kido/Fujiwara/Yamazaki vs Vader/Saito: Now we've got a 3 on 2 handicap match against the UWF guys. I barely remember Kido in this match. Yamazaki started against Vader and got bowled over. Then Saito threw him to the corner and we got Saito vs Fujiwara which was cool. Fujiwara immediately went for the arm bar but Saito was in the ropes. He got it later, but Saito made it to Vader. Vader vs Fujiwara was much as you'd expect. Vader tried to headbutt Fujiwara on the floor and it didn't work but then he just manhandled him into the apron and smashed him. This built to Yamazaki getting some kicks in on Vader but Vader just crushing him with a lariat. Fun thing I learned here! The Victory Driver! is when you toss someone off the top rope but apparently it's also any other press slam. Oh yeah, I remember what happened to Kido. He tried to interfere on a pinfall so Vader crushed him with his tree of woe corner charge. I do think these dominant handicap matches helped Vader get over. Beating 3 UWF guys 3-on-2 is no small thing! Inoki vs Choshu: This was for the IWGP title and was, as you can imagine, very good and iconic. I wonder what it got on the 80s set. Let's see. 74. I can see that. Crowd is behind Inoki to start. Choshu hits him out of nowhere with a dropkick and two lariats but Inoki rolls out. Choshu dominates for a while, including slamming Inoki's head repeatedly into the metal connecting the turnbuckle pad to the ringpost. But the ref gets in his way at one point as Inoki's on the apron and that lets Inoki hits a couple of enziguiris outside in. Then he takes over. He hits a bunch of knuckle arrows and opens Choshu up huge. He goes for a cobra twist but Choshu hits a belly to back. Choshu gets the Scorpion on but Inoki survives and fires back.He gets the Octopus but Choshu survives. Choshu gets another belly to back and they're really struggling here. Inoki gets one. Choshu survives and puts on an octopus of his own for a second. Choshu goes for the lariat but Inoki kind of crumbles and then takes his leg out. He gets one final Octopus and Choshu gets his hand to the ropes but can't get his hand around it so it's not a break and after a while of this, the ref calls it off. Just weighty, moody, powerful stuff down the stretch. Two masters who knew how to play off one another. The fans love all the dirty stuff Inoki does like always. He is a cruel and unforgiving god. -
AEW TV - 11/6 - 11/12/2024 - Paint It, Pac
Matt D replied to Dolfan in NYC's topic in ALL ELITE WRESTLING
Quick, everyone wear Orange while Taz is out. -
Matt Watches 1989 AJPW/1986 NJPW on a Treadmill
Matt D replied to Matt D's topic in The PROFESSIONAL WRESTLING
I have some strong feelings about Takada relative to Dave never shutting up about him in 86. I don't think he's a top guy in the company at all even if he's generally fine. I also find Koshinaka frustrating but I did like that one. Takada vs Koshinaka is probably my least favorite pairing in 1986-7 and we have that match a lot. Anyway, trying to keep pushing forward here. Catching up on a few cycles on the treadmill. 1/25/88: Takada vs Yamazaki: This is a match that really crystalized that view actually. Because Yamazaki seems more organic and natural and passionate and driven than Takada here. Granted, he was winning, which was a big surprise. I think this was set up so that whoever won it might go to the finals of the Juniors thing, but I'm not 100% sure. Both guys still had UWF on their kickpads so Dave was wrong about that. Yamazaki just wore the struggle on his face better. There was something not necessarily stoic but more..sleepwalking about how Takada worked sometimes and I'm not surprised Dave missed it because he was far more focused on what was done than what was behind it. This felt like a big upset overall and had the usual exciting finishing stretch but it was just striking to see these two next to each other. 1/25/88: Vader vs Hoshino/Takano: You kind of feel for Takano. There was a sense he might have gotten a push after he lost the Cobra match but he just didn't have the charisma (as of yet at least) and ended up more the guy who could lose in tags. This went over ten minutes which was probably a little much. Vader absolutely had the Vader Attack down at this point but some other things were still developing. It was tag rules and he dominated of course. Eventually they were able to double team him to the fans' delight but He press slammed Hoshino (who was quite good in bumping around and making faces of getting demolished in this one overall) to the floor, taking him out of the match completely and then he squashed Takano. I do think he's getting over week by week even if the start was shaky. 2/1/88: Choshu vs Bob Orton: Shocking moment here as Orton hits an inverted atomic drop and they call it a Manhattan Drop. For some reason I thought that like the Kitchen Sink was an invention of 00s video games. Orton got a lot of this. He was very protected on this tour and I have no idea why. If he was going to be in the stable with Vader, that'd be one thing. Some of this was good though, as Orton's stuff tended to be imaginative but not contrived, little twists on normal moves to create damage in the moment. Choshu fired back at times but would get cut off. Eventually Orton tried to pile drive him on a chair but Choshu reversed it. He hit the lariat but then started on Orton with the chair and got DQed. So protected again. 2/1/88: Inoki/Sakaguchi vs Vader/Saito: This was set up a bit by Sakaguchi saving Hoshino and Takano post the Vader 2 on one, so they're trying really. We've seen Vader vs Inoki a little too much at this point maybe. They did have a nice exchange where Inoki went for the pumphandle, Vader got out and press slammed him, and then Inoki got his knees up on a splash. There was a little bit of a sense of clash of the titans with Sakaguchi and Vader. Sakaguchi did his usual fighting in and out of the corner bits. Vader was probably a bit too giving when it came to knocking him down but no one could keep him down too. We haven't seen a ton of Sakaguchi vs Saito in this run but they do match up well. AT one point Inoki and Sakaguchi put double arm submissions on Vadera t the same time before Saito broke it up. But then Vader was right back up and dominating. This got thrown out when people went over the rail. Just keeping things simmering overall but Sakaguchi was a good addition and amazingly after the 87 matches, there was still some meat on the bone with Inoki vs Saito; just a real testament to both of them. 2/1/88: Hase vs Koshinaka: A fresh enough match still, and this had implications on the finals of the proto J cup thing. Shiro would have flashes of humanity, especially when he acts like a jerk but they were too few and far between. Thjis did have some of the same that we'd seen, the sort of spots you'd expect from a jrs match (Koshinaka hits a belly to back out of nowhere, but Hase is able to side step him rope running and hit a plancha, then bodyslam him on the floor; ah! But Koshianka comes back a minute or two later with a tombstone and locks in a headscissors) and it's fine but there's not a real throughline or interesting attitude or contrast. It's just some of the details are differnet because of Hase's style. Finish was ok. Koshianka came back with the butt butts and at a tapitia on, but Hase got a backslide out of nowhere and reversed a belly to back with a body press and hit the Northern Lights. Sometimes you watch the jrs and just list off moves, which is why Dave loved them of course because that's his way of reviewing wrestling. you can't blame Hase much as he's still so early into his career. I have another Takada vs Koshinaka match ahead of me next. Ah well. -
Basically every improvement we've made to the house in the last five-six years has been with waterproofing in mind. Maybe it won't matter, but we've fixed the side door and put a sump in on that side of the house, have resloped the back yard including taking out a tree and putting in this fairly ugly plastic strip across the end of the yard at the bottom of a hill from the people behind us to redirect the water around the house, have gotten new front and back doors and had the wood underneath them replaced. These are the things we've chosen to done instead of redoing a kitchen or whatever.
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AEW TV - 11/6 - 11/12/2024 - Paint It, Pac
Matt D replied to Dolfan in NYC's topic in ALL ELITE WRESTLING
He’s Michael Hayes of the HOB. -
AEW TV - 10/30 - 11/5/2024 - Sweet Home Aminata
Matt D replied to Dolfan in NYC's topic in ALL ELITE WRESTLING
BEEF responded back to when I tweeted it out that he really appreciated the comments so that was nice. Got nothing but well wishes for the guy. I think he can break out if given the chance. -
My big feeling on Jarrett is that he was fine, middle of the road, in his prime relative to his peers. But his peers are gone and he has a number of skills that very few people currently wrestling tap into in the same way so it makes him stand out in modern times. Dustin is the same way (but Dustin was generally much better than Jarrett so it's even more so).
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AEW TV - 10/30 - 11/5/2024 - Sweet Home Aminata
Matt D replied to Dolfan in NYC's topic in ALL ELITE WRESTLING
Here's my stuff for the week (LFI vs BEEF/Drake/Butcher and Athena vs Abadon). http://segundacaida.blogspot.com/2024/11/aew-five-fingers-of-death-1028-113.html I also have a quick Kyle Fletcher essay in there at the end. -
AEW TV - 10/30 - 11/5/2024 - Sweet Home Aminata
Matt D replied to Dolfan in NYC's topic in ALL ELITE WRESTLING
One good thing. One hundred bad things? -
AEW TV - 10/30 - 11/5/2024 - Sweet Home Aminata
Matt D replied to Dolfan in NYC's topic in ALL ELITE WRESTLING
I'm not sure exactly how I feel about the rafters stuff but I do know I'd feel worse if I they hadn't gotten Martha Hart's permission (and they have). -
AEW TV - 10/30 - 11/5/2024 - Sweet Home Aminata
Matt D replied to Dolfan in NYC's topic in ALL ELITE WRESTLING
That’s not too different than what I said about the match itself. On their overall case, there are both pros and cons to their influence case in the way that they used irony and postmodernism in order to get over when they couldn’t get over any other way. It certainly opened certain doors for certain wrestlers to succeed in certain ways that would’ve been impossible 10 years earlier. Personally, I think the cost is way too high. They busted down doors and glass ceilings that just happened to be load-bearing. -
We passed multiple (2-3 at least) sets of teenagers singing it or playing it while trick or treating last night.
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October 2024 Wrestling Discussion
Matt D replied to The Natural's topic in The PROFESSIONAL WRESTLING
Do we know if JBL is still under WWE contract? I half wonder if he’s not secretly scouting for them.