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All great points! Also, I can’t blame Vince that hard, as Hogan was rapidly balding and looked much older than he was.

Yeah, that's absolutely a Meltzer thing -- Dave has mentioned many, many times how Vince handed over his two biggest 80s stars to Bischoff for nothing because he felt they were too old. Shit, Vince was looking for a Hogan replacement (Warrior in 1989/90) when the guy was only 36. That's some real Logan's Run shit.

Oh no! Worse than the first time he nearly murdered Bobby? No wonder Heenan hated his guts.

I loved Page & Omega's tag title run! It seemed like they were defending it at Daily's every week (per Cagematch, it was actually like every 2-3 weeks, I know) and every match felt like they could lose the belts.

I think I mentioned here or another thread, but I was so mixed on that game. I loved the plot, atmosphere, and like 75% of the gameplay, but the constant, forced battles got to be too much after a while. It was a real departure from the first game and speculation was it was a done to try to attract fans of action-packed FPSs. Still, a very good game! I just finished Guardians of the Galaxy and really liked it a lot, but, funny enough, I have the same complaint. The last few chapters just feel like walk, battle a bunch of bullet sponges, repeat. Again, not to say it's a bad game because quite the opposite. It's just a little repetitive and dull in spots.

Moving on with the Survivor Series OR I really wanted to finish this show last night but shit came up, god dammit OR more talk about turkeys, dicks, and possibly dicks in turkeys. YMMV. Roddie's Rowdies (PIper, Snuka, & Bushwackers) vs The Rude Brood (Rude, Hennig, & Rougeaus) After their 80s feud, there's no damn way Piper and Snuka should have teamed here. It just looks so wrong. Snuka and Piper should have had a simmering hatred that lasted their whole lives. Like if Snuka happened to spy Piper across the shuffleboard at the wrestlers' old age home, they would have to fight. You'd hear the Ironsides/Kill Bill music and shit would be ON. When Rick Rude, with his slicked hair and massive flavor saver mustache, leers salaciously like a big ol' pervert into the camera and says, at his absolute sleaziest, that we're going to "celebrate turkey day.......THE RAVISHING WAY," it feels pretty gross. Like he and Perfect are going to Eiffel Tower a cooked turkey while the Rougeaus pour poutine on them. It's a real "Maybe, maybe, maybe, YES" thing just waiting for someone to fuck up when trying to say "Roddie's Rowdies." Jesse is the first to flub it, but he owns it like a champ! The story of the match, I guess, is that the Heenan Family is having issues and Rude (here without Heenan) is having trouble holding his team together. He and Perfect almost get into it and both Rougeaus are eliminated somewhat quickly, putting the heels at a 4 on 2 disadvantage. So we have Piper, who doesn't do jobs, on one team, and Hennig, on a winning streak angle, on the other. This should be interesting. Snuka is the worker of his team and that's saying something. Piper is Piper and the Bushwackers suck. Somebody please get Hennig a jock strap or some duct tape for the love of god. There's a bit in the postmatch promo where you can clearly see his entire bellend. Like a lot of these elimination matches, there's a looooong segment where nothing much happens. Everything from the second Rougeau elimination to the time where both Bushwackers are finally out is just such a slog. Thing I Googled during this match: when the fuck does Hennig join the Heenan family? I had the timeline so screwed up in my head. Piper and Rude, the main program here, are kept apart the whole match. Then they finally do square off and they brawl to a double countout. I get it. They need to save this as the main for the B houses, but, just like in the Zeus match, they really fuck the paying fans. Hennig and his dong win with a Perfectplex to kick off his main event push, where he'll do pre-internet secret jobs to Hogan around the horn. So there we go. One match to go here (The Ultimate Warriors vs The Tully-less Heenan Family). I'm looking forward to it mostly for how fun Heenan is in the ring, but I'm also worried for Bobby's health considering his last interaction with the Warrior.

My best guess is the difference between Garvin and the others was that Garvin was a career midcarder who was given the belt because nobody else wanted to do an awful hot potato run just to give Flair a win on PPV. Ron Garvin is a "former NWA champion" the same was Tommy RIch is. Wait til next the following year when Hennig teams with all three members of Demolition. WTF? A superstar athlete...and three postapocalyptic S&M dudes.

That’s a real “tree falls in the forest” thing. Is it still parody if the people being critiqued don’t get it and instead take it at face value? People of a certain political ilk didn’t realize until just this season that The Boys was making fun of them, for example.

The Target by me still has AEW figures and pegs. Maybe it's just certain stores.

I'm currently rewatching old WWF from the start and one fun thing from those early Survivor Series matches is the random replacements. In 88, JYD quit and was to be replaced by Brian Blair, but then Blair quit, too, so Scott Casey stepped in. I joked that James Dudley was next on the depth chart. I just watched a match from the 1989 show where Earthquake stepped in for Barry Windham after Windam left the company.

Let's continue Survivor Series 1989, shall we? King's Court (Savage, Earthquake, Bravo, & Valentine) vs The 4x4s (Duggan, Bret, Herc, & Garvin) Duggan's team does a march/jog to the ring, all with 2x4s, and then they try to do a drum major deal in the ring where they toss the boards to each other. It goes about as well as you'd expect, and in short order. Danny Davis is reffing this match. I vaguely remember him being reinstated on a probationary basis. Speaking of refs, Shane McMahon is the ringside referee! I didn't think he showed up as a ref until Mania 6's dark match. Apparently Earthquake is a replacement for Barry Windham as Barry left the month prior due to his family's legal entanglements. Say what you want about Blackjack Mulligan, but the dude definitely knew how to make money. Womp womp. Ah! And that's why Vince's voiceover in the promo package sounded to weird. Not because he eliminated the "Canadian" form the name. It was because he'd already done the VO with Widowmaker on the team and had to go do a pickup. I'm sad we missed out on getting some possible Windham vs Hart segments. But at the same time, this was overweight, unmotivated Windham, so maybe we didn't miss much. Don't listen to the old heads telling you nobody sells today, everyone's exposing the business, etc etc, part 5,837: The Garvin Stomp is fucking stupid. Herc has apparently given up thinking more PEDs = a push as he is noticeably softer here and with the beginnings of the belly that would become a prominent feature in his run as the Super Invader in WCW in a few years. I love Survivor Series's goofy-ass quick eliminations. Bravo reverses a Herc buckle whip and the sheer force of hitting the buckles is enough to keep Hernandez down for the minute or so it takes to take in Quake and have him hit the Earthquake splash. He pins Herc with his cock and balls directly on Herc's chin and mouth area and that couldn't have been pleasant. There's a funny moment when Savage is tied in the ropes and Duggan gives him a 12 to 6 elbow from behind and Savage completely forgets to sell it. Old guy moves some modern dude needs to steal, part 2: Savage's move where he grabs a guy by the hair and jumps over the top, necking him on the top rope. Duggan was just kind of passable in the ring but I can't deny his charisma. Guy was over as fuck and was perfect in that role of midcard face who can occupy and warm up your upper midcard heels until it's time for something else. Match is typical 80s WWF. Nothing offensive, quality wise, but also nothing amazing. The best parts are when Savage or Hart are in, but you already knew that. Duggan is left in a 3 on 1 disadvantage when Sherri lets him know it's really FOUR ON ONE, DUMBASS as she low bridges him in the ropes to get him out of the ring. Quake gloms him from behind from the apron and we get a heel win via countout. Duggan clears the ring with the 2x4 to keep the program going and/or start a program with the Evil Canadians, not sure which. The Million Dollar Team (DiBiase, Zeus, & Powers of Pain) vs The Hulkamaniacs (Hogan, Demolition, & Jake) Warlord is eyeballing Zeus and is secretly overjoyed about this being the only time he wasn't the most limited guy in the match. All the babyfaces get their own separate entrance music and, for the first and probably only time, we get back to back Rick Derringer! Wikipedia lists this match as the main event. Was it promoted as such? That's hilarious. Gorilla: WHAT KIND OF BELT IS THAT, JESSE??? Jesse: IT'S A ZEUS BELT, GAHRELLAH! IT HAS A Z ON IT! This is a boring, not very good match. I know what I'm getting with elimination matches. Not a ton of story; just more of a "greatest hits." But some matches are definitely worse than others and this is one of those. Zeus does that move they do in movies to break dudes' necks and one hit kill them, on Hogan, and I laugh like "oh well, guess Hogan is dead now and the program is over." Zeus beats up Hogan and shoves Hebner twice, getting DQ'd. I'd be a little pissed if I watched this hoping for some kind of big rematch/showdown between the two and all I got was a quick angle to advance the storyline, get Zeus out of there fast, and sell the next PPV. Smash's elimination is fun, as he's nailed unawares with a Barbarian flying clothesline. Again, I'm all for guys getting pinned because another guy hit a move on them when they didn't expect it. Bring that back. Less is more. Weird to see the Powers beat Demolition, the champions, and have nothing come of it afterward. PoP are both DQ'd for beating up Hogan too much, eventually hitting a spike piledriver. I hate that shit. What's the point of having a legal man and non-legal men if more than one person can be DQ'd at the same time? So stupid. I know it gets worse down the line when Flair wins a Survivor Series match after everyone else is counted out at the same time. Jesus. Virgil interferes and gets DDT'd because somebody had to get DDT'd. DiBiase pins him with his feet on the ropes to keep the program going. So it comes down to Hogan and DiBiase and I FFWD a good deal of this, because the outcome isn't in question and it's just going to be The Hogan Formula. Funny how Hogan got to be the sole survivor on his team. I'm legit surprised he didn't go down 4-1 before beating all the heels. Two matches to go and they have to be better than that last one, right?

I agree, someone needs to ask TK if he’s making plans for Nigel.

Looooool I was just wondering where the “it’s a work” guy has been. So you’re pivoting to “still a work but Punk is hurt and the Bucks were actually due some time off.” I haven’t seen such a wild “no no no I’m still right!” pivot In conspiracy type thinking since QAnon had to rewrite their whole narrative after THE STORM~! didn’t happen. You’re hilarious. Never change.

That’s got to be one of those apocryphal wrestling stories. It’s petty obvious Savage’s entire run was booked toward Hogan getting the belt back specifically from Savage. How would a “Bad News as transitional champion” timeline even work?

Is GQ up there with Men’s Health when it comes to celebrity propaganda feature stories on how they got in shape? I’m not saying these stories are total bullshit. I’m just saying their editors likely have a Word macro that changes [insert PED of choice] into “chicken and broccoli.”