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Elsalvajeloco

Elsalvajeloco

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9 hours ago, Jiji said:

Random question:

Does anybody have a link to or know where I could find that classic Japanese wrestling music video set to Aerosmith's "Dream On" from back in the early 2000s? Thanks!

All those videos were on ClickWrestle for a hot second. I haven't found many of then since.

However, I did find the G1 Climax 2001 one set to Beautiful Day.

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Zimbra

Zimbra

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Random thing I thought of trying to fall asleep last night: what's the oldest extant lucha libre footage?  Do we have anything from the 50s like we do with US and Japan?

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Zakk_Sabbath

Zakk_Sabbath

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1 hour ago, Zimbra said:

Random thing I thought of trying to fall asleep last night: what's the oldest extant lucha libre footage?  Do we have anything from the 50s like we do with US and Japan?

That's a really good question, I bet @RoyLucierwould know. Total shot in the dark guess, but I'd bet that if anything does exist, it's probably EMLL stuff from the late '60s at the earliest. I don't know a ton about that time period of lucha outside of the big names, but I do know that sometimes complete results don't even exist for shows earlier than that (so I'm just logically assuming there's not much tape)

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Zimbra

Zimbra

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Awesome, thanks for helping to sate my curiosity.  That was about the timeline I was guessing.

odessasteps

odessasteps

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Not quite the same answer, but I wonder how much footage there is of luchadors working in the US before say 1970, in places like Texas, Arizona or California. 

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Kevin Wilson

Kevin Wilson

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They had more camera angles in that match than some Japanese promotions have in 2022. Not trying to be funny but are we sure that wasn't shot for one of Blue Demon's movies.

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Zakk_Sabbath

Zakk_Sabbath

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45 minutes ago, Kevin Wilson said:

They had more camera angles in that match than some Japanese promotions have in 2022. Not trying to be funny but are we sure that wasn't shot for one of Blue Demon's movies.

It's kind of hard to tell if it's edited for something like that, or just for highlights. In any case, that wide shot at the beginning was awesome, I love the perfectly circular building.

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BrianS81177

BrianS81177

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A friend and I were joking about Keith Lee and his intelligent vocabulary. It got me thinking they should start a thing with him where he says famous catch phrases from the past, but you know, Keith Lee style:

"If your olfactory senses can pick up the aroma of the dish that Dwayne Johnson is currently preparing in his kitchen!"

"That is the final word on the matter because Stephen Austin did decree it as such!"

Etc

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Gordi the BJW fan

Gordi the BJW fan

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9 minutes ago, BrianS81177 said:

A friend and I were joking about Keith Lee and his intelligent vocabulary. It got me thinking they should start a thing with him where he says famous catch phrases from the past, but you know, Keith Lee style:

"If your olfactory senses can pick up the aroma of the dish that Dwayne Johnson is currently preparing in his kitchen!"

"That is the final word on the matter because Stephen Austin did decree it as such!"

Etc

 "The sound that a firearm makes when it is being discharged, the sound that a firearm makes when it is being discharged."

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just drew

just drew

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"Retire to the bedroom whilst in a state of total serenity!"

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zendragon

zendragon

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First Indy show for me in over two years. Kinda strange to think about all the people who I used to see who are now in AEW/IMPACT/NXT

Got to see Toa Liona pretty much eat Ray Rosa for lunch. 

Best match was Wolf Zaddies (Latino Meat and Bad Guy Tito) v Lucas Riley  and Dom Kubrick. Dom is no longer working his gay Joey Ryan which is probably for the best and Lucas Riley has really filled out (TM Good Ole) Last time I saw him he was about 130lbs, He's gonna show up on one of the bigger shows now. He's always has the skill and he's getting the physique. Would love to see Wolf Zaddies v FTR 

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Teflon Turtle

Teflon Turtle

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Well, my weekend plans have changed.

"I must inquire about the actions you shall endeavor to take whilst the the most significantly proportioned upper extremities within the entirety of the celestial body upon which we inhabit are proceeding upon your person in an uncontrolled fashion. (Despite the fact that we share identical parentage.)"

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JLowe

JLowe

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“And if you take issue with the arguments that we have presented during this discourse, allow me to offer you this short suggestion, and that is to apply suction to a certain portion of my nether regions.”

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(BP)

(BP)

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What will one do, sibling, when confronted with both the most enormous upper body appendages on this living sphere as well as my zealous supporters, and we brutalize your person? 

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BobbyWhioux

BobbyWhioux

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"I would appreciate it if the male demographic within tonight's audience who have less strenuous workout regimens than the one I myself hold to, would refrain from speaking whilst I remove my robe and allow the female segment of the audience to observe a more ideal example of the human form.  Additionally, I would like the arena's audio director to resume playback of my musical selection."

"I am a superior competitor to all other athletes who have competed in this sport in the past, are competing in this sport at present, and will proceed to compete in this sport in the future."


"I HAVE ENGAGED IN A SPIRITUAL RITUAL THAT ALLOWED ME TO COMMUNE WITH IMMORTAL SPIRITS OF THE DECEASED ANCESTORS OF OUR SPECIES, SPECIFICALLY THOSE WHO PRIORITIZED A MARTIAL CAREER, AND WHILE IN THE TRANCE STATE REQUISITE TO THE AFOREMENTIONED COMMUNIQUE I HAVE BEEN INFORMED THAT THEIR PSYCHIC ENERGY, ALONG WITH THE PSYCHIC ENERGY OF THE JUVENILE MEMBERS OF OUR SPECIES WHO CHEER FOR ME DURING THIS COMPETITION AND ADVERTISE THEIR APPRECIATION FOR ME BY PURCHASING AND WEARING MERCHANDISE EMBLAZONED WITH MY LIKENESS AND TRADEMARKED LOGO, SAID PSYCHIC ENERGY SHALL FLOW THROUGH MY CIRCULATORY SYSTEM METAPHORICALLY SPEAKING, THUS EMPOWERING ME TO SUPERLATIVE PHYSICAL FEATS THAT SHALL MAKE IT IMPOSSIBLE FOR YOU TO SUCCESSFULLY COMPETE AGAINST ME DURING OUR IMMINENT ATHLETIC COMPETITION.  [ADDITIONALLY MY NOSE IS CONGESTED, EXCUSE ME WHILE I ATTEMPT TO CLEAR THE NASAL PASSAGES MANUALLY.]"
 

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John E. Dynamite

John E. Dynamite

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57 minutes ago, BobbyWhioux said:

"I would appreciate it if the male demographic within tonight's audience who have less strenuous workout regimens than the one I myself hold to, would refrain from speaking whilst I remove my robe and allow the female segment of the audience to observe a more ideal example of the human form.  Additionally, I would like the arena's audio director to resume playback of my musical selection."

"I am a superior competitor to all other athletes who have competed in this sport in the past, are competing in this sport at present, and will proceed to compete in this sport in the future."


"I HAVE ENGAGED IN A SPIRITUAL RITUAL THAT ALLOWED ME TO COMMUNE WITH IMMORTAL SPIRITS OF THE DECEASED ANCESTORS OF OUR SPECIES, SPECIFICALLY THOSE WHO PRIORITIZED A MARTIAL CAREER, AND WHILE IN THE TRANCE STATE REQUISITE TO THE AFOREMENTIONED COMMUNIQUE I HAVE BEEN INFORMED THAT THEIR PSYCHIC ENERGY, ALONG WITH THE PSYCHIC ENERGY OF THE JUVENILE MEMBERS OF OUR SPECIES WHO CHEER FOR ME DURING THIS COMPETITION AND ADVERTISE THEIR APPRECIATION FOR ME BY PURCHASING AND WEARING MERCHANDISE EMBLAZONED WITH MY LIKENESS AND TRADEMARKED LOGO, SAID PSYCHIC ENERGY SHALL FLOW THROUGH MY CIRCULATORY SYSTEM METAPHORICALLY SPEAKING, THUS EMPOWERING ME TO SUPERLATIVE PHYSICAL FEATS THAT SHALL MAKE IT IMPOSSIBLE FOR YOU TO SUCCESSFULLY COMPETE AGAINST ME DURING OUR IMMINENT ATHLETIC COMPETITION.  [ADDITIONALLY MY NOSE IS CONGESTED, EXCUSE ME WHILE I ATTEMPT TO CLEAR THE NASAL PASSAGES MANUALLY.]"
 

 

"Huß".

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Execproducer

Execproducer

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"Though it's structure, as measured against more recent entertainments, may be quite obsolete, yet it still enjoys the largest average daily attendance amongst the female  patrons within this vast amusement complex."

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Gordi the BJW fan

Gordi the BJW fan

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On 8/27/2022 at 9:29 AM, Kevin Wilson said:

They had more camera angles in that match than some Japanese promotions have in 2022. Not trying to be funny but are we sure that wasn't shot for one of Blue Demon's movies.

Could be! In which case, the footage is from no earlier than 1965. I did a bit of digging trying to figure it out but wasn't able to come up with anything concrete. Somebody somewhere must have compiled a list of what matches are in what Blue Demon and Santo movies, but I couldn't find it.

The (truly excellent) YouTube channel I found that on also had this match, a mid-card IWA singles from 1969. It might be the single most minimalist, least flashy pro wrestling match recorded in my lifetime. There are some dropkicks and a bodyslam and a bump to the outside... But you could sum this up as "They work head scissors and headlocks for the whole match" and not be too far off! I find it mesmerising. 

All young wrestlers could learn something from this match, in my opinion.

It's not just the "work" that is minimalist. The commentary, the crowd reactions, the ring gear, even the camera work and lighting... 

Enjoy!

 

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