MAY 2022 Pro Wrestling Discussion

[Raziel]

1 minute ago, twiztor said:

i don't think you can count that as an individual reign since he won the NWA title and (for all intents and purposes) that became the WCW title. it's one reign, spread over two belts.

Actually one belt (which feeds onto a whole other discussion when Herd fired Flair and Heenan started flaunting the Big Gold while waiting for Flair's 90 day to be up.

[TheVileOne]

3 hours ago, Ziggy said:

They've been freezing people's contracts alot in the modern Era for while now. Mainly when a guy is injured though. Why are people reacting as if this is new. Sure it's petty but people are signing shorter term contracts nowadays but even 1 to 3 years is a long time to be stuck any place you do not want to come in to work to.

It doesn't surprise me because of cases like PAC and Brodie Lee. 

[GuerrillaMonsoon]

In hindsight, they could have easily had Meng be the new Hardcore Champion when he jumped over in 2001, and ended the 24/7 rule as no-one wanted to fuck with him and lose an eye.

[odessasteps]

Does that number include the WCW International Titke, since it’s Big Goldy? 

[porksweats]

35 minutes ago, GuerrillaMonsoon said:

In hindsight, they could have easily had Meng be the new Hardcore Champion when he jumped over in 2001, and ended the 24/7 rule as no-one wanted to fuck with him and lose an eye.

Meng comes in at Royal Rumble 01, Raven loses his title the next night on Raw anyway. Just swap Haku for Al Snow to unify.

[Doragon]

I remember reading that Meng gifted the WCW Hardcore belt to the Barbarian. Then it vanished.

[Doragon]

From SRS, WWE doesn't plan to release Sasha and Naomi.

Crown Jewel is back on Nov 5th. No revival of TLC. No Oct PLE.

 

[ka-to]

Tarzan Tyler and Luke Graham showed up as the first WWWF tag champions. 

[Doragon]

23 minutes ago, ka-to said:

Tarzan Tyler and Luke Graham showed up as the first WWWF tag champions. 

Yeah they won them via fictional tournament. 

The WWF International Tag Team Championship was decided by fictional tournament too.

The WWF Women tags were switched to the Glamour Girls on some fictional card.

[Niners Fan in CT]

1 hour ago, odessasteps said:

Does that number include the WCW International Titke, since it’s Big Goldy? 

You mean when he beat Sting for it? I don't believe that's a new world title reign as they just absorbed the title into the WCW title. 

Side note: that was the last real Clash of the Champions to me..  Hogan got started with all his buddies and nonsense and the old NWA/WCW was dead..  

Edited May 24, 2022 by Niners Fan in CT

[odessasteps]

What about Pat o Connor and the AWA title? They gave him the belt while he was NWA champion, then lost it to Verne by not defending it in 90 days. 

[HumanChessgame]

On the subject of non-existent tournaments, was there actually a WCW cruiserweight tournament that took place in NJPW or was the Benoit/Otani title match just a fictitious final?

[Raziel]

No, it was just a one off in NJPW.

[Gorman]

Flair and the commentators would often say what title reign he is on. That's the best way to keep track. I'm watching early-2000 WCW, and Flair is a 14-time champ. They are counting his two WWF titles.

[(BP)]

I don’t know why this bothers me so much, but it really sticks in my craw that Flair, Hunter, and Orton all have championship reigns on the books that started with them being handed the title. 

[Niners Fan in CT]

59 minutes ago, (BP) said:

I don’t know why this bothers me so much, but it really sticks in my craw that Flair, Hunter, and Orton all have championship reigns on the books that started with them being handed the title. 

Triple H was handed the big gold but if my memory is right, he won a #1 contender match and then Brock Lesnar signed "exclusively" to Smackdown. So you could say that was retroactively a title match. I forget who he fought.

[caley]

I was watching a 1987 WWF Saturday Night Main Event last night and saw the most bizarare thing. The show opened with Steele-Savage and Steele proceeded to "eat" two of the turnbuckle pads which was used for Savage to take over, no big deal, usual thing for him. What was weird was that the next match was a 20 man battle royale and NOBODY bothered to replace either of those pads, so every time someone went in the corner or got their head slammed against the pad, they came up with white fluff on them and two big piles of fluff in the corners of the ring. Did they forget to bring along spare pads? Did they just forget? It was weird.

[mystman]

34 minutes ago, Niners Fan in CT said:

Triple H was handed the big gold but if my memory is right, he won a #1 contender match and then Brock Lesnar signed "exclusively" to Smackdown. So you could say that was retroactively a title match. I forget who he fought.

If I'm remembering it correctly, it was RVD.

[The Natural]

1 hour ago, (BP) said:

I don’t know why this bothers me so much, but it really sticks in my craw that Flair, Hunter, and Orton all have championship reigns on the books that started with them being handed the title. 

 

45 minutes ago, Niners Fan in CT said:

Triple H was handed the big gold but if my memory is right, he won a #1 contender match and then Brock Lesnar signed "exclusively" to Smackdown. So you could say that was retroactively a title match. I forget who he fought.

 

8 minutes ago, mystman said:

If I'm remembering it correctly, it was RVD.

Going on memory, I thought it was the Undertaker in the #1 contenders match as Brock Lesnar the WWE Undisputed Champion signed to be an exclusive to Smackdown GM Stephanie McMahon. Because Trips beat 'Taker in said match, he was handed the World Heavyweight Championship.

[AxB]

Kurt Angle’s World title reign count includes his World and Olympic (amateur) championships as well as his Pro Wrestling ones.

[Zakk_Sabbath]

3 hours ago, Gorman said:

Flair and the commentators would often say what title reign he is on. That's the best way to keep track. I'm watching early-2000 WCW, and Flair is a 14-time champ. They are counting his two WWF titles.

I think that's where they get the 16 from - those 14 plus a couple weird ones in 2000 (beating Jarrett for it once, and then having Nash give it to him for Russo reasons).

[Technico Support]

2 hours ago, caley said:

I was watching a 1987 WWF Saturday Night Main Event last night and saw the most bizarare thing. The show opened with Steele-Savage and Steele proceeded to "eat" two of the turnbuckle pads which was used for Savage to take over, no big deal, usual thing for him. What was weird was that the next match was a 20 man battle royale and NOBODY bothered to replace either of those pads, so every time someone went in the corner or got their head slammed against the pad, they came up with white fluff on them and two big piles of fluff in the corners of the ring. Did they forget to bring along spare pads? Did they just forget? It was weird.

LOOOOL

That reminds me...I was watching Wrestlemania 1 over the course of the past few days and noticed most, if not all, of Mean Gene's "pre-match" promos were obviously taped sometime before the show, most likely at a different TV taping.  So many guys are wearing different gear than when you see them in the ring seconds later.  The worst offender was Windham and Rotundo, who cut both cut dull, seemingly a quaaludes inspired promos that BOTH end with a variation on "we're going to the ring right now."  But both were wearing their street clothes.  My guess of these being taped at an earlier TV was because Bruno was literally wearing his announcer getup, complete with WWF logo blazer, but was wearing a sweater to the ring right after that.

Need to check @Dolfan in NYC's excellent Mania review thread to see if he caught that,

[Niners Fan in CT]

2 hours ago, mystman said:

If I'm remembering it correctly, it was RVD.

 

1 hour ago, The Natural said:

Going on memory, I thought it was the Undertaker in the #1 contenders match as Brock Lesnar the WWE Undisputed Champion signed to be an exclusive to Smackdown GM Stephanie McMahon. Because Trips beat 'Taker in said match, he was handed the World Heavyweight Championship.

Yup. Just saw.. 

 

[Niners Fan in CT]

https://nypost.com/2022/05/24/wwes-sasha-banks-naomi-pettiness-only-feeds-real-problem/

  WWE are so dumb.. 

[sabremike]

4 hours ago, Niners Fan in CT said:

 

Yup. Just saw.. 

 

I had the grave misfortune to have been at that Raw and this was one of the worst matches I have ever seen live. They totally stunk out the joint.