The Natural Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 Thank you, Dax Harwood. 7 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Log Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 But Shawn's changed! He's Born-Again! Oh, right. 4 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 This. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nice Guy Eddie Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 There's a reason Akeem clotheslining the hell out of Shawn Michaels at WM5 is my favorite Michaels moment. Fuck Shawn Michaels 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yo-Yo's Roomie Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 Shawn Michaels is, was and probably always will be a massive bellend. Let's talk about what a cool guy Waltman seems to be though. Feel he doesn't get the love he deserves sometimes. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt McGirt Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 (edited) That kind of shit happened all the time to me as a kid and really fucked me up. Shawn's not a child though, he's an adult facing peer pressure and that's his reaction? That is an insane amount of inadequacy to have after you've been to the top of your professional mountain. Go talk to a therapist if that's the behavior you're participating in, please. Edited February 22, 2022 by Curt McGirt 9 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 Per Fightful - AJ Styles is staying with the WWE having signed a new "big money deal" (apparently WON said it was happening, Fightful is confirming it) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Cincinnati Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetrolCB Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 Shawn's still Shawn. He just doesn't get fucked up anymore. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReiseReise Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 Wait, Christians can be unemphatic assholes, too? I thought that was a thing for other religions... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(BP) Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 1 hour ago, Curt McGirt said: That kind of shit happened all the time to me as a kid and really fucked me up. Shawn's not a child though, he's an adult facing peer pressure and that's his reaction? That is an insane amount of inadequacy to have after you've been to the top of your professional mountain. Go talk to a therapist if that's the behavior you're participating in, please. According to JR, Shawn was never the leader of the Clique and was actually very passive within the group dynamic, even when he was champion and being a massive prick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sublime Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 19 minutes ago, John from Cincinnati said: Making fun of someone's mental health after they confide in you and making jokes about someone's writing are different levels even if the writer is in the room and also maybe take the talents dislike of your work as note that maybe you need to do better work for them and work with them to get what they want. Wrestling should be a collaborative exercise between creative and talent. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zakk_Sabbath Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 "So, after you memorize and recite this 7 pages of verbiage that in no way resembles human conversation, you're gonna get caught shaving each other's backs in the shower. But first, let's have you eat a pin from Curt Hawkins." 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragonzombie Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 (edited) Next year is 70/60 years of WWE, depending on if you count the first year of the CWC or the WWWF eras as the starts. Titan Sports, Inc. started in 1980 and absorbed the now defunct Capitol Wrestling Corporation Ltd. In 1982. Nowadays Titan Sports is World Wrestling Entertainment, Inc. Edited February 22, 2022 by Blue Dragon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetrolCB Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 14 minutes ago, (BP) said: According to JR, Shawn was never the leader of the Clique and was actually very passive within the group dynamic, even when he was champion and being a massive prick. Probably easy to be passive when your seven Somas deep. 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Cincinnati Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Sublime said: maybe take the talents dislike of your work as note that maybe you need to do better work for them and work with them to get what they want. Wrestling should be a collaborative exercise between creative and talent. Writers aren't in the wrong by default. Hearing the way people discuss the writers and the adversarial attitude some people take toward them, I don't struggle to imagine some talent being shitty and uncollaborative. Edited February 22, 2022 by John from Cincinnati 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sublime Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 True FTR could very likely have been giant assholes to the writer but the situations are very differ and what Shawn did was much more asshole behavior. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Cincinnati Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 15 minutes ago, Sublime said: True FTR could very likely have been giant assholes to the writer but the situations are very differ and what Shawn did was much more asshole behavior. I agree. I can go with you on Shawn was shittier and the situations are different. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hagan Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 Isn't the takeaway that wrestling, by and large, is filled with people that most of us probably wouldn't want to actually be friends with in real life? 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coletti Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 It would be a real good look for FTR to apologize to Dave Schilling, who's been on a bunch of pods I listen to and seems like a pretty good guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobra Commander Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 3 hours ago, (BP) said: According to JR, Shawn was never the leader of the Clique and was actually very passive within the group dynamic, even when he was champion and being a massive prick. if the Clique was a basketball team, Nash would be the Center, Hall the power forward, Helmsley the small forward, Waltman the point guard, and Michaels the shooting guard. So Nash was probably the center of the universe even if Michaels was trying to undermine Nash to advance himself 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hagan Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 Yeah - the weird reflexive dismissal of that writer bringing forward a legitimate hurt as not being equivalent or as legitimate as the issue between Dax and Michaels was really unfortunate to read. Something doesn't have to be equivalent to something else to have value or importance. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sublime Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 I never said it didn’t have value and did not mean to imply as such. FTR did something unprofessional and rude (probably more but we don’t have all the details) and that sucks. Shawn did something personally cruel to someone who trusted him enough with their mental health issues. Neither party is innocent but the two incidents, based on what we know, are not equal. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirSmUgly Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 I sort of think less of the writer going "You made fun of me once" in response to a podcast where a dude is telling his story. His response naturally paints FTR Guy as a hypocrite, which is a shitty thing to do when a guy is talking about how he felt when someone was shitty to him. If the writer wants an apology, he should reach out, or hell, make a post about it that isn't a direct response to FTR Guy. "Why are you complaining when you were mean to me?" is a bad look, IMO, as unpopular as that might be. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxB Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 6 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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