John from Cincinnati Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DTTW Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 I'm really starting to laugh at decades of wrestler tough guy bravado against real athletes when those guys got such a better deal by being pussies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Go2Sleep Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 1 hour ago, JohnnyJ said: The professional athlete argument is not apt because while athletes may hold out or whine over money, it's largely posturing. They're not actually planning on walking away because that's how they make a living. The NFL, NBA, and NHL have all had lockouts in the last 15 years, so I don't know about that. The real difference is the lack of collective bargaining for wrestlers. Even if they had a union as good as the shitty NFL one, they'd be exponentially better off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(BP) Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 There was one glimmer of hope. "Okay guys, we're doing a walkout angle, so we'll need everyone lined up in gorilla at the start of the show." "Whoa. What are we walking out over? Our contractor status? Healthcare?" "Bitch please, you're all afraid The Miz and R-Truth are going to beat you up." 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zev Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 Do they let Lesnar win twice just to prove they aren't all about the 50/50 booking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyanide Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 The takeaway, as always: Bray Wyatt is going to be made to look like a chump, as always. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuerrillaMonsoon Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 My guess is they do a no contest, Orton gets a visual victory that makes Brock look amazing (2-3 punt kicks after a few chairshots/RKOs?), puts him out in storyline sense till whenever, and then costs Orton his spot in the Rumble. Keeps Orton looking credible and justifies why Lesnar isn't around for a little while, whilst saving us from a Shane/Lesnar series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godfrey Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 Looks like Alison Brie (of Community fame) is going to be in the show based on GLOW, or as I call it a Perfect Storm of Nerd Boners. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilwaldo Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 3 hours ago, Technico Support said: How much he makes isn't important. Being classified as an independent contractor, but being treated like an employee, and losing a big chunk of it to things your employer should cover but doesn't because they're sleazy, is a bad thing. If you made 500K but lost a major piece of it to trans, road expenses, health insurance, etc., you'd be a little salty over it, too. Read the list of employee characteristics that @joseph2112 posted. It's sad. These guys are absolutely employees of WWE. Vince is having his cake and eating it too. You see these arguments in sports fandom all the time. If a player complains, there are always fans who say, "that guy's a millionaire, fuck him!" Meanwhile that player's being screwed by billionaires. A lot of those expenses are tax deductible. When you look at the house Natalya and TJ bought it is hard to feel sorry for them. They are doing pretty well for themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nate Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 20 minutes ago, Godfrey said: Perfect Storm of Nerd Boners. That was my senior prom date's nickname! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thee Reverend Axl Future Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 38 minutes ago, evilwaldo said: A lot of those expenses are tax deductible. When you look at the house Natalya and TJ bought it is hard to feel sorry for them. They are doing pretty well for themselves. Except for the snapped neck part, it's a very nice house. Nothing ruins the clean lines of a Colonial entrance way like a wheelchair ramp, dammit. Even a good CPA can't fix that. - RAF 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FluffSnackwell Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 In the grand tradition of Arn Anderson vanquishing foes much mightier than he armed only with a simple lady's high-heeled shoe, Owens should secure the pinfall after stabbing Reigns in the eye with a half-eaten chicken wing he unearths from his fleshy folds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyld Samurai Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 Bret's contract he signed in 96 to return to the WWF was for 1m/year... and they couldn't afford that a year later. The money these guys make these days is unreal compared to 20 years ago... and these guys can barely put a match together. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dog Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 Best idea or worst idea: Ed Leslie returns to WWE under his "Booty Man" persona, where the New Day heroically and weekly fends him off as if he were the Noid or a Cavity Creep. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FluffSnackwell Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 In order to properly trademark Ed's persona, WWE should rechristen him Booger Sugar Daddy AKA Code Name:Bootyman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirSmUgly Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 18 minutes ago, Wyld Samurai said: Bret's contract he signed in 96 to return to the WWF was for 1m/year... and they couldn't afford that a year later. The money these guys make these days is unreal compared to 20 years ago... and these guys can barely put a match together. That Bret contract was before the company raised a bunch of cash by going public. Their market cap, profitability, etc, are far beyond what they were in 1996. It is wild that Ryback claims that he was offered 500K a year and Bret was only making 650K a year adjusted for inflation. If Ryback is telling the truth, then based on that extremely small sample size, salaries have risen a considerable degree even with little competition. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nice Guy Eddie Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 57 minutes ago, Dog said: Best idea or worst idea: Ed Leslie returns to WWE under his "Booty Man" persona, where the New Day heroically and weekly fends him off as if he were the Noid or a Cavity Creep. Only if someone in the crowd yells out again for Beefcake to kill himself. Otherwise, I'll pass. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(BP) Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 1 hour ago, Dog said: Best idea or worst idea: Ed Leslie returns to WWE under his "Booty Man" persona, where the New Day heroically and weekly fends him off as if he were the Noid or a Cavity Creep. ...he's then revealed to really be The Disciple, sent by Hogan because he believes Brooke is secretly dating Xavier. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilwaldo Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 1 hour ago, thee Reverend Axl Future said: Except for the snapped neck part, it's a very nice house. Nothing ruins the clean lines of a Colonial entrance way like a wheelchair ramp, dammit. Even a good CPA can't fix that. - RAF Nice hyperbole. He is walking and has to be careful but he is not wheelchair bound like your statement makes him out to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swift Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 14 hours ago, cwoy2j said: I'd love to see the reaction of a doctor who's operated on Terry Funk's knees. "Mr. Funk is in astonishingly excellent health!" 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thee Reverend Axl Future Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 5 hours ago, evilwaldo said: Nice hyperbole. He is walking and has to be careful but he is not wheelchair bound like your statement makes him out to be. Most probably, and I am glad for that, but his condition has not been officially updated. It was touch and go there for a while. My snarky point is that no amount of money can make up for an injury like that. The original post I responded to seemed rather flip about the discussion of worker's rights and to compare the happiness material possessions bring without considering the loss of an athlete's own instrument -his body- is facile and unempathetic. I am also certain that while the WWE is taking care of Mr. Tyson, as independant contractors the workers have no true assurances or legal guarantees of support due to these accidents. Not arguing, but I was enjoying the relatively sober debate there for a while. I am pro-unionization, but doubt it will ever happen (for the reasons discussed above) and I could foresee it killing the business barring some great business model shift. - on the serious tip, RAF 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DTTW Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 Gotta love HHH putting over all that young talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turk128 Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 2:50 in and Nostradamus appears. I can't wait for Jericho to run around and re-franchise "suck it." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted August 30, 2016 Author Share Posted August 30, 2016 Per Meltzer - Alberto Del Rio has been pulled from all events after his 30 days suspension is up So you can see where that is going Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRGoldman Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 2 minutes ago, RIPPA said: Per Meltzer - Alberto Del Rio has been pulled from all events after his 30 days suspension is up So you can see where that is going The Impact Zone? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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