Black Angel Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 Speaking of Reigns, has anyone heard about this? Quote According to Wade Keller of the Pro Wrestling Torch, Vince McMahon is planning a “redemption” storyline for Reigns once he returns to WWE programming. McMahon wants to tell the story of how “the controversy” put Reigns down. He would then have to find a way to work his way back to what he was before and be even better than he was. McMahon feels if he creates a story in the way he would want it told, it may finally get fans to buy into Reigns and cheer for him. This story is backed up after WWE told the world on Raw about Reigns’ suspension. Stephanie McMahon even called his failure an embarrassment to WWE. She’s not far off either as Reigns’ suspension surely didn’t make WWE look good. Roman was all over the news, and with WWE positioning him as their top guy, he let them down. - Source NoDq.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Go2Sleep Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 Roman Reigns should film a scene with the Hardys. That'll revive his career. Edit: Lol @ that Torch story. We just haven't pushed Roman hard enough, yes, that's the problem. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joseph2112 Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 LOL it's a redemption story like real sports. He cheated but he owned up to it! You know, like A-Rod. Everybody loves A-Rod nowadays, right? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgundy LaRue Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 I don't necessarily buy that rumor. Not with how Rollins has been jabbering about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infinit Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 Maybe Roman can get Rikishi to come and run people over for him??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kafkonia Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 22 hours ago, JonnyLaw said: Rusev or KO could easily be built up to be competitive with Brock. Corbin would take more work, but him shittalking Brock for not being able to make the NFL would instantly have the crowd ready to see him get slaughtered. It was a slow day at work, so I thought I'd tag this onto the suggestion that Rusev should be positioned as competitive with Brock. I'd like to preface this by saying that I've never been a huge fan of Rusev. My first exposure to him was when he debuted on the main roster at the Royal Rumble, and my initial impression was that he was too small to be getting the hoss push. Obviously he's a very strong man, and could crush me like an insect, but his height and stature made it hard for me to buy in. But that's not the issue he's facing now. In a business that is decidedly shifting toward smaller wrestlers as the larger athletes go into legitimate sports or mixed martial arts, I don't think his size is the problem it would have been ten or twenty years ago. He towers over people like Kalisto, and as long as that's the case he's believable in the strong man role. Unfortunately, I think the problem Rusev now faces is one that he won't be able to surmount without a significant overhaul, because it's his entire gimmick and has been for the majority of his time on the main roster. He's been a Bulgarian and a Russian, he's been on his own, with a manager, or as part of a stable, but practically since the first time he touched a microphone he's been the stereotypical anti-American heel. And the days of the anti-American heel being a sustainable main event gimmick are over. With their international presence and increasing inroads into countries like China and India, the WWE is in a position where more and more of their target audience is from outside the United States. As such, these people have no investment in the gimmick he's been saddled with; at best, they'll be indifferent to it and dislike him for any other heel-like behaviour he may exhibit. And for all their flaws and oversights, I think somewhere in the creative food chain they recognize this, and have his ceiling accordingly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joseph2112 Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 I don't really buy that rumor either (but if it's true it will make for another year of Vince vs. the fans, can't wait for that RR pop), but it outlines the general problem. The fan revolt against Roman is only going to be worse when he comes back. It's not debatable. The fans will want to cheer Ambrose and Rollins even harder. If the office is hell bent on keeping him face, there is no way it is going to work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxB Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 5 hours ago, (BP) said: If I was Vince, I would have Roman "ask for his release," let him go set the world on fire in Japan for a year, and then bring him back. Who's to say the Japanese promotions would play ball with that? Or the Japanese fans, for that matter? And I'm not sure his style is conducive to having a high quality Japanese-style match (although Japan is a lot more similar to WWE style than it used to be). Also, name a wrestler that has been in WWE for a long time without getting over at the level they wanted, went to Japan and had good matches, then came back and became a legit top level main eventer. Except Umaga. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuerrillaMonsoon Posted July 10, 2016 Share Posted July 10, 2016 Diesel '96 seems to make the most sense here as far as Reigns' path. Him and Ambrose re-doing Good Friends, Better Enemies seems a good way of putting Ambrose over someone when it matters too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgundy LaRue Posted July 10, 2016 Share Posted July 10, 2016 With wrestling being more cooperative and fluid, I don't think it's a stretch that at some point a WWE guy could wind up in New Japan for a tour. Reigns has shown flashes of at least being aware of the Japanese style, so I imagine he could train exclusively in it for 5-6 months and be ready to go. Despite what some chuckleheads would have us believe, Reigns is a very good worker and can likely adapt. All you need is a story. Have Reigns become so despondent that he decides to leave WWE. He travels the world in search of himself, winds up in Tokyo. Meets his would-be sensei, and starts training. Conquers Japan, eventually makes his way back to the United States and the life he left behind and faces his demons. He wins, drop the confetti and balloons. Not that I expect this to happen, but it's probably easy enough to do if they wanted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey Posted July 10, 2016 Share Posted July 10, 2016 3 hours ago, Black Angel said: Speaking of Reigns, has anyone heard about this? - Source NoDq.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nice Guy Eddie Posted July 10, 2016 Share Posted July 10, 2016 1 hour ago, Burgundy LaRue said: All you need is a story. Have Reigns become so despondent that he decides to leave WWE. He travels the world in search of himself. This is the way to go. Turn Roman into Caine from Kung-Fu. Just shoot vignettes of Roman meeting people and getting into adventures, as Samuel L. Jackson described it. The one I can think of right now is Roman in Puerto Rico with his tour guides, Epico & Primo. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Ray Posted July 10, 2016 Author Share Posted July 10, 2016 The problem is the Kung Fu gimmick could end up like Kung Fu Billy Graham. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zev Posted July 10, 2016 Share Posted July 10, 2016 Kung Funaki can be his spiritual guru. Or Funaki and TAKA can both come back and convince him to just do Pillmanizers on Kane and Big Show. Because Kaientai is Eeeeeevil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MORELOCK Posted July 10, 2016 Share Posted July 10, 2016 5 hours ago, Black Angel said: According to Wade Keller of the Pro Wrestling Torch, <snip> - Source NoDq.com If it's according to the Torch, NoDQ.com isn't the source. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nice Guy Eddie Posted July 10, 2016 Share Posted July 10, 2016 13 minutes ago, Rev Ray said: The problem is the Kung Fu gimmick could end up like Kung Fu Billy Graham. That's a bad thing? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cristobal Posted July 10, 2016 Share Posted July 10, 2016 14 hours ago, (BP) said: If I was Vince, I would have Roman "ask for his release," let him go set the world on fire in Japan for a year, and then bring him back. Now that the Reigns redemption story has been outed as phony, I can get back to laughing at slightly better Tama Tonga setting the world on fire in Japan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FluffSnackwell Posted July 10, 2016 Share Posted July 10, 2016 I wonder how violently ill crowds will get if Lesnar is actually coming off consecutive UFC victories whenever it is he winds up having to put over Reigns? Also it's ludicrous to put out there that Reigns wasn't being given a Final Boss push this whole time or that he somehow wasn't brooding enough. Oh, he wasn't enough of a Stone Goldberg asskicer? Then what was his whole "I'm The Guy"(more like the guy Brad Wesley's nephew used to fuck in prison)spiel even about? The truth is a Reigns victory over Lesnar won't do a damned thing for him because until crowds actually give a molecule of a shit about him it won't feel like he's earned it. With there soon to be two heavyweight titles again what are the chances Lesnar takes one of the belts hostage again right around Royal Rumble? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuerrillaMonsoon Posted July 10, 2016 Share Posted July 10, 2016 As if Lesnar coming out tomorrow night on RAW, calling out Mark Hunt to no response, then calling out Roman Reigns to no response, and deciding he wants "any other Samoan who wants to fight" and ending up in a pull apart with Samoa Joe doesn't get Austin/Tyson style replays all over ESPN 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MORELOCK Posted July 10, 2016 Share Posted July 10, 2016 1 hour ago, RolandTHTG said: As if Lesnar coming out tomorrow night on RAW, calling out Mark Hunt to no response, then calling out Roman Reigns to no response, and deciding he wants "any other Samoan who wants to fight" and ending up in a pull apart with Samoa Joe doesn't get Austin/Tyson style replays all over ESPN True because of WWE's new relationship with ESPN, but issues with that specific wording: 1. Really not a good time to bring race into anything 2. People that don't post about wrestling on the Internet would think about/wish for Rock and shit all over Joe 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenalysis Posted July 10, 2016 Share Posted July 10, 2016 12 hours ago, Burgundy LaRue said: With wrestling being more cooperative and fluid, I don't think it's a stretch that at some point a WWE guy could wind up in New Japan for a tour. Reigns has shown flashes of at least being aware of the Japanese style, so I imagine he could train exclusively in it for 5-6 months and be ready to go. Despite what some chuckleheads would have us believe, Reigns is a very good worker and can likely adapt. All you need is a story. Have Reigns become so despondent that he decides to leave WWE. He travels the world in search of himself, winds up in Tokyo. Meets his would-be sensei, and starts training. Conquers Japan, eventually makes his way back to the United States and the life he left behind and faces his demons. He wins, drop the confetti and balloons. Not that I expect this to happen, but it's probably easy enough to do if they wanted. Or have him find Vampiro. Only problem with that is you get Roman in LU, and I don't want him in LU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyld Samurai Posted July 10, 2016 Share Posted July 10, 2016 Maybe we just need to start bringing "Die Roman Die" signs to RAW? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgundy LaRue Posted July 10, 2016 Share Posted July 10, 2016 Except in 2016, someone would actually try to make it happen. The man already has folks throwing overpriced briefcases at his head. A potential stabbing is next, sadly. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgundy LaRue Posted July 10, 2016 Share Posted July 10, 2016 2 hours ago, alstein said: Or have him find Vampiro. Only problem with that is you get Roman in LU, and I don't want him in LU. I don't keep up with LU enough to actually know, but is it setting the world on fire these days? Most opinions make Season 2 sound pretty iffy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spritenaut 32 Posted July 10, 2016 Share Posted July 10, 2016 34 minutes ago, Burgundy LaRue said: I don't keep up with LU enough to actually know, but is it setting the world on fire these days? Most opinions make Season 2 sound pretty iffy. Season 2 started airing in January. If they were going to send Roman to another promotion to do some sort of redemption storyline, I kinda want to see him in Fight Club Finland. Mostly because FCF doesn't air in the US that I know of, and I've never seen a FCF DVD for sale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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