The Nature Boy Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 http://www.wesh.com/news/former-wrestler-chuck-austin-battling-prescription-issues/31508512 It's sad to see that he isn't doing much better these days. That is an awful headline, BTW. The way it's worded makes it seem like he has addiction issues, while the actual report is about pharmacy issues. Oh it is. I was referring to the fact that he hadn't achieved the goals mentioned in the first video. He still hasn't gained the ability to walk and is still in constant pain. It's a sad story really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SorceressKnight Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 For the current list, trying to work out a theory for WWE and NXT, Face/Heel. (Note: The way I did it to check the Face/Heel is less "Who's highest on the card?", but a more matchup-based comparison of "If these two people fought in an important enough feud to guarantee one of them has to turn, which one would be more likely to turn?". So, for instance, if Ryback is the number six face in the list, then he'd probably be booed against 1-5 and cheered against everyone below him.) With that in mind... WWE FACE LIST: 1- Brock Lesnar Undertaker Dean Ambrose Roman Reigns Neville Ryback Dolph Ziggler D-Von Dudley Bubba Ray Dudley Kalisto Jimmy Uso Jey Uso Kane Mark Henry Jack Swagger Chris Jericho Rhyno Zack Ryder Darren Young Titus O'Neil R-Truth Goldust Damien Sandow WWE HEEL: 1- Triple H Kevin Owens Sheamus Alberto Del Rio Rusev Bray Wyatt Big Show Braun Strowman Erick Rowan Luke Harper The Miz Big E Langston Kofi Kingston Xavier Woods Tyler Breeze Stardust King Barrett Konnor Viktor Fandango Heath Slater Bo Dallas Curtis Axel Adam Rose WWE Divas (from "biggest face" to "Biggest heel"): F- Becky Lynch Natalya Naomi Brie Bella Tamina Alicia Fox Summer Rae Lana Charlotte H- Stephanie McMahon NXT FACE: 1- Sami Zayn Apollo Crews Finn Balor Hideo Itami Chad Gable Enzo Amore Jason Jordan Colin Cassady Mojo Rawley Bull Dempsey Alex Riley NXT HEEL: 1- Baron Corbin Samoa Joe Blake Murphy Dash Wilder Scott Dawson Elias Samson Marcus Louis Aiden English Simon Gotch Sylvester LeFort Tye Dillinger Angelo Dawkins Sawyer Fulton NXT Women: F- Bayley Asuka Carmella Liv Morgan Billie Kay Peyton Royce Emma Cameron Alexa Bliss Nia Jax H- Eva Marie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victator Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 Chuck Austin is a very sad story. I really do think WWE should have compensated him regardless of who was at fault. I'm still watching 1999 WWF and one of the interesting things is watching as they try to integrate side show characters into storylines. They first tried it with Godfather, giving him the Intercontinental title. But it never took, because no heel could get heat on him. Nobody really cared after he brought the girls out, beyond popping for the avalanche in the corner. Droz and Albert actually did get some heat when they tried to pierce one of the girls tongues. It got a lot of heat and even Jerry Lawler was breaking character. But then she got saved and everyone danced. A week later it was back to being a comedy story. They have tried most of 1999 to get Chyna over as someone who regularly wrestles men, but it did not take. The obvious one being she was not very good in the ring beyond a few basic spots.The second thing is the company was uncomfortable having her be hit by men. Which sounds funny considering the era, But it was treated like a big deal if she was hit on took a bump. Finally when she wrestled men, you realize she is not that big. Wearing flats, I'm not sure she was bigger than Kidman. So she can't dominate the matches and it looks weird seeing her working even matches. Her best role was being Triple H's bodyguard. I feel bad for her, you get the sense that breakup ruined her life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurningBeard Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 What's the consensus on JBL's title run in hindisight? I hated it at the time as he was lower midcard and spinning his wheels with the whole APA reunion thing then got this jesus push out of nowhere when (IMO) he should've never been higher than US title (a title made for the character). But going over some of his matches he really brought his A-game when he stepped up and didn't drop the ball once. The Cabinet were a lame stable but it is what it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxB Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 Chuck Austin is a very sad story. I really do think WWE should have compensated him regardless of who was at fault. I'm still watching 1999 WWF and one of the interesting things is watching as they try to integrate side show characters into storylines. They first tried it with Godfather, giving him the Intercontinental title. But it never took, because no heel could get heat on him. Nobody really cared after he brought the girls out, beyond popping for the avalanche in the corner. Looking back, that was one of the weirdest things about the Attitude era (or possibly that whole WWWF/WWR/WWE) - how people were able to get signature spots over as big moves that would get a pop, even though the actual move they were doing was lame, routine and weak as hell. If I do a little dance, stop and then do a kneedrop, that's a killer move. If I just jump up and drop a knee, that's just a generic kneedrop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victator Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 Honestly Godfather's avalanche looked brutal. But he just could not break out into more than an over side character. Which is a good spot to have.Goldust WWF run post WM 15 seems very strange. Like there were lots of things happening behind the scenes. He was given the Intercontinental title and seemed in line for a big heel push. Then Godfather won the title and he disappeared. GTV debuted as GDTV and the "D" was dropped the next week. Since he ended up in WCW, I guess there were negotiations going on. WWF probably could not imagine someone going to WCW voluntarily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbarrie Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 If I do a little dance, stop and then do a kneedrop, that's a killer move. If I just jump up and drop a knee, that's just a generic kneedrop. You mean like Dusty Rhodes's bionic elbow? Not unique to WWF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spritenaut 32 Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 Honestly Godfather's avalanche looked brutal. But he just could not break out into more than an over side character. Which is a good spot to have. Goldust WWF run post WM 15 seems very strange. Like there were lots of things happening behind the scenes. He was given the Intercontinental title and seemed in line for a big heel push. Then Godfather won the title and he disappeared. GTV debuted as GDTV and the "D" was dropped the next week. Since he ended up in WCW, I guess there were negotiations going on. WWF probably could not imagine someone going to WCW voluntarily. Or they couldn't imagine someone wanting Godfather enough to poach him away from them. I never saw anything in Godfather to warrant so many pushes - other than he was supposedly tight with Undertaker. Seems like I saw him in about a dozen and a half failed gimmicks over the years (Kama, Soultaker, Papa Shango, etc. Anyone remember Sir Charles? His half-assed attempt to fuse Charles Barkley and some sort of royalty into one gimmick? It consisted of him wearing a borrowed cape to the ring and doing a terrible Barkley impersonation. If you missed this, you're one up on me). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victator Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 He was a pretty big dude and decent in the ring. I thought he worked best as Kama, I enjoyed his squash matches and ppv matches with Undertaker and Shawn Michaels.I think he did a good job working whatever gimmick he was given. He was super over as Godfather, even if he could not get above midcard with it.Believe me WCW would have taken Godfather in a second. WWF kept Tiger Ali Singh under contract. WCW had to be scared to release anyone after Vince turned Bossman and Debra McMichael into stars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Go2Sleep Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 What's the consensus on JBL's title run in hindisight? I hated it at the time as he was lower midcard and spinning his wheels with the whole APA reunion thing then got this jesus push out of nowhere when (IMO) he should've never been higher than US title (a title made for the character). But going over some of his matches he really brought his A-game when he stepped up and didn't drop the ball once. The Cabinet were a lame stable but it is what it is. JBL is the wrestler I've probably done the biggest 180 on over the course of my wrestling life. I never thought anything of him as I was growing up and his title run fell super flat for me at the time, especially with Eddie not getting much of a run before hand. I think it was after he came back to the ring after his first stint announcing that I started to like him. Looking back, he was pretty much always good or at least had visible talent. Yeah, he had some super lame gimmicks in the mid 90s, but he was a poor man's Stan Hansen in the ring and usually good for a fired-up promo. He actually had some fun matches with the pre-DX Outlaws and Kai En Tai even before he settled into the Acolytes. That wasn't even a good gimmick for him, but the chemistry with Faarooq was so good, it kept him afloat for years. The title run was jarring due to how fast his gimmick changed and how fast he won the belt, but his match quality went way up as he got to work longer singles matches with high-end wrestlers. Even though he adopted some cowardly heel tactics, his matches were still mostly high-impact brawling. The length of his reign combined with his mostly cheap wins made him the ideal guy for Cena to crush and launch his main event run. Then he spent the rest of his career as the perfect upper midcard heel with his perfected character and polished in-ring skills. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Comedian Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 RIP Canada's Greatest Athlete, the king of 80's WWF prelim wrestlers, Iron Mike Sharpe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick B. Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 His arm pain has finally ended. #sorrynotsorry 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwoy2j Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 I actually really liked the HBK/JBL angle. It sucks that JBL was so injured that he had nothing in the tank in-ring wise but I thought it was a great storyline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nice Guy Eddie Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 RIP Canada's Greatest Athlete, the king of 80's WWF prelim wrestlers, Iron Mike Sharpe That sucks. Somebody should use a loaded forearm brace as a tribute on Raw tonight. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stro Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 I never thought anything of Bradshaw as a kid, but when I look back on his stuff, he was always pretty dope in the ring. Big, stiff as fuck Texan who big boots and lariats the shit out of dudes every week. From the Justin Hawk days, it's kind of hard to see why he never got the big push to begin with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Man Known as Dan Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 I never thought anything of Bradshaw as a kid, but when I look back on his stuff, he was always pretty dope in the ring. Big, stiff as fuck Texan who big boots and lariats the shit out of dudes every week. From the Justin Hawk days, it's kind of hard to see why he never got the big push to begin with. Bradshaw was always a guy that I bought could fight just about anyone in the world when he was in the Acolytes as a kid. He had that feel of "potential main eventer" about him for a long while to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.H. Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 Mike Sharpe passing makes me sad. This is a guy who could've cleaned up in the territories. I remember going to smller WWF shows and there would be a SD Jones/Mie Sharpe match here and there and they always busted ass against each other James 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nature Boy Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 The JBL gimmick would've been golden about 6 years earlier. JBL as Vince's corporate champion and example of what a real Texan gentleman should be would've played well against Austin. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hollywood Cibernetico Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 Happy MLK day everyone! www.complex.com/sports/2016/01/sunny-former-wwe-diva-uses-n-word-twitter?utm_campaign=complexmag&utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&sr_share=facebook Re: JBL I didn't like it then and I don't like it now. JBL's title reign was much like JJ's TNA reign. A good hand who should be the 2-3 matches away from the main event, thrust in the main event for 'reasons'. I have always contended that if JBL was U.S. champion at that time and worked with the mid card Smackdown talent (Rene Dupree, Paul London, Billy Kidman, etc.) it might have been a god run to set him up for the world title (if WWE wanted to continue going in that direction). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick B. Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 Always had a soft spot for Bradshaw and wanted him to get a singles push. I just never expected him to be a World Title-level guy and didn't take Eddy's title loss nearly as hard as other people did. He seemed destined to be the guy who would always be put back with Ron Simmons in the tag ranks. He knew his role as a heel and played it well, though one's mileage may vary on his "workrate". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Fresh Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 Droz and Albert actually did get some heat when they tried to pierce one of the girls tongues. It got a lot of heat and even Jerry Lawler was breaking character. But then she got saved and everyone danced. I've never seen this, but it sounds wonderful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisM Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 RIP Canada's Greatest Athlete, the king of 80's WWF prelim wrestlers, Iron Mike Sharpe He was in the WWF for ten years, which kinda surprises me. I remember hearing stories about how he was OCD when it came to cleanliness, and supposedly was locked in an arena one night after a show, because nobody knew he was still in the shower. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greggulator Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 I interviewed "Iron" Mike Sharpe in college for a fanzine I made. I sneaked into the locker room after some terrible indie show in suburban Philly somewhere. My first question: "What is it like being Canada's Greatest Athlete?" My second: "How is your wrist injury?" He kept in caharacter the whole time. (This was 1995 or 1996.) Perfect. The same evening King Kong Bundy said to me that he was responsible for the death of Andre The Giant. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greggulator Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 Also JBL as JR Ewing ruled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nature Boy Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 Happy MLK day everyone! www.complex.com/sports/2016/01/sunny-former-wwe-diva-uses-n-word-twitter?utm_campaign=complexmag&utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&sr_share=facebook Re: JBL I didn't like it then and I don't like it now. JBL's title reign was much like JJ's TNA reign. A good hand who should be the 2-3 matches away from the main event, thrust in the main event for 'reasons'. I have always contended that if JBL was U.S. champion at that time and worked with the mid card Smackdown talent (Rene Dupree, Paul London, Billy Kidman, etc.) it might have been a god run to set him up for the world title (if WWE wanted to continue going in that direction). Someone really needs to pull Sunny away from social media.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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