mattdangerously Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 I'm starting to think I'm higher then Bray Wyatt then anyone else on this board. Or anywhere, maybe. I still think that guy screams Wrestlemania Main Eventer, the company just has to stop being dumb to make it happen.I think he's been miscast as a heel. Turn him face, drop the supernatural mumbo-jumbo, and let him be a hillbilly shitkicker who cuts Dusty Rhodes/Southern preacher style promos. I bet he could pull it off. Before anyone laughs at this, it's exactly what they did with The Undertaker - his original heel run was barely a year before he was popular enough to be turned babyface. You don't have to change a thing about Bray, just change his targets. Yeah, I don't mean "turn the Wyatts into the Godwinns." In the Wyatt Family's last appearance in NXT, Bray cut a great, fiery babyface promo about how he was going to change the world and "bring down the machine." No eating worlds or stealing powers or whatever. It was tremendous. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zakk_Sabbath Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 I'm a huge Bray Wyatt guy but what has hurt him since day one on the main roster is that he's never successfully "converted" a babyface into a family member. Bryan only lasted a week and Strowman just kinda showed up. They abduct Kane and he just sorta goes missing for a while. Then, two years later, they abduct Taker and he... just sorta goes missing for a while. I'm not saying either should be the guy to turn, but it's just a pattern of crappy creative decisions that could've been way cooler and way more important feeling 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 As luke harper mentioned during the jericho pod, its odd they never had a female member in their wwe run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyJ Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 The issue w Wyatt is his character is stuck within the constructs of WWE programming. He's a backwoods cult leader. What's his motivation for winning wrestling matches, let alone appearing in structured matches in the first place? His character should scream danger and unpredictability. Instead he has boring predictable promos/feuds and they saddled him with an entourage of giants, two of whom don't have great looking stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tromatagon Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 Well, obviously he has no motivation to win  he always loses 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eivion Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 I'm a huge Bray Wyatt guy but what has hurt him since day one on the main roster is that he's never successfully "converted" a babyface into a family member. Bryan only lasted a week and Strowman just kinda showed up. They abduct Kane and he just sorta goes missing for a while. Then, two years later, they abduct Taker and he... just sorta goes missing for a while. I'm not saying either should be the guy to turn, but it's just a pattern of crappy creative decisions that could've been way cooler and way more important feeling I sort of agree with this. To add on I think Bray himself wrestles too often for a guy with his gimmick. He should rely on the family more. If he did this and won a some decent feuds he would be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Man Known as Dan Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 I also think part of the problem is Bray isn't really allowed to "wrestle" his gimmick much. There is no way he should be anything other then a flat Brawler, and not in the current WWE style of brawler. We need fist fights and blood. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt McGirt Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 If he had won ANY of the feuds he's had so far he at least wouldn't look like such a chump. Now seriously, if he doesn't burn down Dudleyville and hang Tommy in the swamp, we'll know for sure what exactly we have on our hands: a well and true Jobber To The Stars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Man Known as Dan Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 Actually, he has one some of his feuds... kinda.  You wanna know how much the WWE gives a shit about someone? Does Bray Wyatt win his feud with you  Hell No: Cena, Reigns, Undertaker Sure, why not: Bryan, Ambrose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattdangerously Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 Hey, he totally won that feud with R-Truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cristobal Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 Truth just THOUGHT they were feuding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Man Known as Dan Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 Truth just THOUGHT they were feuding. Â His bad. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted December 5, 2015 Author Share Posted December 5, 2015 The problem with the idea of a female Wyatt member is that there isn't a single person they have in development who could do it. Â Which means signing someone... and they don't sign people straight to the main roster anymore. Â Obviously if this was 10 years ago - it would have been Serena or Daffney Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bustronaut Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 Nhooph might be a good fit. Â Charlotte could get possessed by Abigail and try something new - become like a female Undertaker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoarr Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 The problem with the idea of a female Wyatt member is that there isn't a single person they have in development who could do it. Which means signing someone... and they don't sign people straight to the main roster anymore. Obviously if this was 10 years ago - it would have been Serena or Daffney Sara Lee. Â 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raziel Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 Actually, he has one some of his feuds... kinda.  You wanna know how much the WWE gives a shit about someone? Does Bray Wyatt win his feud with you  Hell No: Cena, Reigns, Undertaker Sure, why not: Bryan, Ambrose To be fair, while Bray won the last match with Ambrose, Ambrose spent the whole fued pretty much kicking the shit out of Bray. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nice Guy Eddie Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 I'm starting to think I'm higher then Bray Wyatt then anyone else on this board. Or anywhere, maybe. I still think that guy screams Wrestlemania Main Eventer, the company just has to stop being dumb to make it happen.I think he's been miscast as a heel. Turn him face, drop the supernatural mumbo-jumbo, and let him be a hillbilly shitkicker who cuts Dusty Rhodes/Southern preacher style promos. I bet he could pull it off. If you watch his FCW and early nxt stuff, that's really not far off from what he was. It was more standing up for the downtrodden with a heavy Max Cady influence...and of course, tiiimmme is on my side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nice Guy Eddie Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 The problem with the idea of a female Wyatt member is that there isn't a single person they have in development who could do it. Which means signing someone... and they don't sign people straight to the main roster anymore. Obviously if this was 10 years ago - it would have been Serena or Daffney I think Emma could have pulled it off after her disasterous main roster run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zakk_Sabbath Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 It would be an awesome idea to put a woman with the Wyatts, but she'd have to be a lady-hoss. I haven't watched NXT in a while, so I haven't seen a single one of her matches, but would Nia Jax work in the role once she got a little more experience? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Man Known as Dan Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 I actually disagree that whoever got the role would need to be a hoss. She'd just have to be able to play crazy.  Fuck the Nia Jax thing, Asuka as a Wyatt would be terrifying. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cool arrow Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 From what little I've seen of Nia Jax, she's basically a thicker Tamina. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSJ Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 I also think part of the problem is Bray isn't really allowed to "wrestle" his gimmick much. There is no way he should be anything other then a flat Brawler, and not in the current WWE style of brawler. We need fist fights and blood. Â You and a couple of others have gotten really, really close to the problem with Bray's booking. No, he really shouldn't care about winning or losing matches, he should be there for two things only: converts and BRINGING THE VIOLENCE. 90% of his matches should end with him being DQ'd for excessively violent shenanigans. Think Kevin Sullivan as "The Master" in SMW (the template is pretty close actually). Did Sully care about winning matches? No, he cared about carving people up with a spike and generally making a nuisance of himself. That's the sort of stuff Bray should be doing. Ain't no buzzards to be following if you aren't leaving a trail of the bloody and broken in your wake. Â There also needs to be more of an emphasis on expanding the "Family". Take over some bland babyface (yes, Dolph Ziggler would do nicely) and turn them swamp monster before our eyes. It needs to be a long-running deal, not something that's resolved in two or three episodes of RAW. The more I think about it, the more perfect a candidate Dolph seems to be... Have him kidnapped and carried out by Brown Shortsstain and keep him off TV for a month. A month is plenty of time to grow out a scruffy beard and come back looking like Moondog Spot jr. Â For the gimmick to be meaningful, it has to be someone of Dolph's level and persona. The transformation is thus dramatic and memorable. Adding a female Family member to tempt losing divas to convert would also be aces. Cult leaders expand cults, they don't just randomly show up with one new member a year, that shit doesn't cut it. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgundy LaRue Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 I'm a huge Bray Wyatt guy but what has hurt him since day one on the main roster is that he's never successfully "converted" a babyface into a family member. Bryan only lasted a week and Strowman just kinda showed up. They abduct Kane and he just sorta goes missing for a while. Then, two years later, they abduct Taker and he... just sorta goes missing for a while. I'm not saying either should be the guy to turn, but it's just a pattern of crappy creative decisions that could've been way cooler and way more important feeling  For a while during their feud, I thought they'd go with Bray brainwashing/converting Reigns, leading Ambrose in trying to get his friend back and eventually asking Rollins for help, putting the Shield back together.  The supposed crown prince/golden boy in the swamps with the deranged cultist? I'd watch just to see Reigns and Harper literally impale some guys.  They flat-out missed the chance to put Adam Rose in the Wyatts. Black sheep, white sheep, bad bunny. It was right there, easy peasy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Harms Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 My mrs theorised at survivor series that Dean Ambrose would sell his soul to Bray Wyatt in return for help winning the WWE Title. It seemed silly at the time but it would've been 10x more interesting than what actually happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lacelle Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 How anyone can watch the Wyatt family & prefer Bray to Luke Harper is beyond me. Harper is where the money is 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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