JonnyLaw Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 I joked about an NXT invasion angle in the NXT thread on Thursday after the show, but a lot of people both here and elsewhere seem to think that putting those guys on TV is going to be some sort of magic bullet for the main shows, and unfortunately I don't think that would be the case. If they want to improve Smackdown, they should call up the NXT creatives rather than the wrestlers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomAct Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 Cena probably never would have gotten a shot in the first place if not for the brand split. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nature Boy Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 When Vince says that Cena grabbed the brass ring, he really means it. Cena was initially treated as an after thought to Batista and Randy Orton on RAW, but he managed to get so over that Vince had to pay attention. Vince seems unusually willing to abandon Orton/Batista plans when a babyface gets hot. If not for the brand split, Cena would've never gotten pushed over the Evolution guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 I joked about an NXT invasion angle in the NXT thread on Thursday after the show, but a lot of people both here and elsewhere seem to think that putting those guys on TV is going to be some sort of magic bullet for the main shows, and unfortunately I don't think that would be the case. If they want to improve Smackdown, they should call up the NXT creatives rather than the wrestlers. SD! and NXT already swapped head writers like two months ago, I think. Which I guess means the positions are mostly meaningless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fowler Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 Cena got so insanely over on Smackdown that they had to move him to RAW and basically demote Batista. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Fresh Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 If they are serious about trying to get people to watch Smackdown again they need do SOMETHING to make it different. It should have a totally different announce team from Raw. Not sure who they could pair Regal with but that's who I would go with as the color guy. Renee Young. Wanna make the show different? Give it the first female play-by-play commentator on a major show in history. Plus, her chemistry with Regal is insane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dewar Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 Wasn't there rumblings that Regal got taken off of color commentary due to issues with his voice? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cristobal Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 I joked about an NXT invasion angle in the NXT thread on Thursday after the show, but a lot of people both here and elsewhere seem to think that putting those guys on TV is going to be some sort of magic bullet for the main shows, and unfortunately I don't think that would be the case. If they want to improve Smackdown, they should call up the NXT creatives rather than the wrestlers. SD! and NXT already swapped head writers like two months ago, I think. Which I guess means the positions are mostly meaningless. I say this as someone who has written copy for a living: Fuck writers. (Literally, cuz I need to get lai-I kid I kid) But no, wrestling doesn't need writers, at least not TV writers. Or at the least, it doesn't need more than a couple, the way NXT gets it done with one, just to help flesh out the work. Wrestling isn't written, it's booked. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victator Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 If they are serious about trying to get people to watch Smackdown again they need do SOMETHING to make it different. It should have a totally different announce team from Raw. Not sure who they could pair Regal with but that's who I would go with as the color guy. Renee Young. Wanna make the show different? Give it the first female play-by-play commentator on a major show in history. Plus, her chemistry with Regal is insane. She is significantly worse than anybody on the main shows. She always sounds like she is reading a book and calling a show at the same time. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCM Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 Wrestling is what Vince Sr. did though. I wish they'd bring the brand split back after RetroMania with at least 4 or 5 NXT guys going to Smackdown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCM Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 RandomAct, on 15 Dec 2014 - 10:59 AM, said:Depends on if the crowd has a favorite. If they put someone like Ambrose in that shit, I think a town like Philly or NYC would def be upset with a Reigns win. Why would anyone expect Ambrose to win a match at this point? The biggest obstacle they face with Reigns' reaction is not having a Brock/Goldberg repeat at Mania. I think the Mania crowd will shit on Brock big time if they know it's his last match, and he may be going back to UFC. They could turn on the whole thing. For me the safe bet is doing Reigns/Cena at Mania in a Hogan/Warrior repeat with the same result. You know the fans will hate Cena so this will be Reign's best shot at a big baby face pop for winning the gold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt McGirt Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 Re: Ambrose From Tribute to the Troops:* Dean Ambrose defeated Bray Wyatt in a No DQ Bootcamp Match. They brawled and Ambrose destroyed Wyatt with weapons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirSmUgly Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 Reigns should be fine in the short term. He's still quite over even with his deficiencies on the mic and in ring. I'm ambivalent about Reigns, but I'm pretty ambivalent about all the ex-Shield guys right now. They were all better as a group than individually, even Ambrose, whose neo-Brian Pillman impression/gimmick/tribute is wearing thin to me right now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt McGirt Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 I watched that whole damn Global marathon earlier this year and I swear I didn't see a single match with Manny Fernandez or Killer Tim Brooks. I just turned Global on as a fluke and there they are as a tag team. How long did that last? I have to add, that is one gross-looking and incredibly singular tag team. They just scream "sleazy, tough fucking wrestlers". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cool arrow Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 Re: Ambrose From Tribute to the Troops: * Dean Ambrose defeated Bray Wyatt in a No DQ Bootcamp Match. They brawled and Ambrose destroyed Wyatt with weapons. Doesn't really count. The babyfaces always go over on TTTT shows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt McGirt Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 Yeah that's true, but still. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiji Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 Ambrose beat the shit out of Wyatt at Survivor Series and has been getting the better of him throughout this feud. Last night was Bray's big win and it was due to exploding tv. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt McGirt Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 Shit, if you get tired of watching Raw or want to see something in between commercials, Global on ESPN Classics is showing Bill Dundee vs. Eric Embry. I guess they're finally showing the good episodes! EDIT: Billy Joe Travis has REALLY, REALLY good punches. #DVDVRbubble Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 I am just tired of reading the whole DB got buried argument when, next to Cena and Punk, he was given the most shit to do since 2011. It's mind blowing how he got over because his fans wouldn't accept that DB got squashed at WM when that was the fucking point. No, it wasn't. The squash was meant to tie a rocket to Sheamus. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Web Conn Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 Shit, if you get tired of watching Raw or want to see something in between commercials, Global on ESPN Classics is showing Bill Dundee vs. Eric Embry. I guess they're finally showing the good episodes! EDIT: Billy Joe Travis has REALLY, REALLY good punches. #DVDVRbubble I turned it on and I have to say Jeff Jarretts hair is incredible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cool arrow Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 Shit, if you get tired of watching Raw or want to see something in between commercials, Global on ESPN Classics is showing Bill Dundee vs. Eric Embry. I guess they're finally showing the good episodes! EDIT: Billy Joe Travis has REALLY, REALLY good punches. #DVDVRbubble And a REALLY, REALLY bad haircut. Like Gary Spivey without the glitter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nice Guy Eddie Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 Shit, if you get tired of watching Raw or want to see something in between commercials, Global on ESPN Classics is showing Bill Dundee vs. Eric Embry. I guess they're finally showing the good episodes! EDIT: Billy Joe Travis has REALLY, REALLY good punches. #DVDVRbubble I turned it on and I have to say Jeff Jarretts hair is incredible. Quite an unexpected surprise. Nice change of pace from Raw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Web Conn Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 Who is the fat guy in the mask wrestling Jarrett? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peck Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 Good stuff from the Wheeling, WV House Show on Saturday (even with the crowd screeching): http://www.wtrf.com/story/27631020/john-cena-fulfills-childs-wish-sings-country-roads-with-crowd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RRR Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 Punk made serious accusations about WWE's backstage procedures. I think it's worthwhile to discuss that. At the very least Punk brought to light that the WWE has been doing what we know all wrestling companies have always done. Telling guys with serious injuries to man up and keep on going. Because if you don't well unless you're someone the boss like (IE. Reigns), there's no guarantee that you'll have your spot when you come back. Bret tells the story in his book when Dino Bravo shoved him off the ring and he hit the guardrails at the Boston Garden chest first and he broke his damn sternum and bruised his heart. He was back on the road I think in ten days because "well, there's no guarentee your spot will be here if you're out for say a month or two". Above all else that's the good that's come out of this punk thing. Maybe now guys won't have to fear wrestling with serious injuries just so they can keep their position. Nothing will change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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