MORELOCK Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 You all hate ECW now but it's what you would love the most if you were smark-ish in the mid-90s.Yeah but I didn't get into that whole thing until later, when the superworkers and the luchadores (and Jericho) were in WCW, Austin and Foley were in WWF, and what was left was just this cheap-looking super-indy with a lot of hardcore clusterfucks and the mutants talking it up like it was the best ever. Basically this. I never really got into anything ECW had to offer after Raven left for WCW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reggie20x6 Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 Facebook is especially irritating in this regard. I had someone inform me that my statement that ECW was dead and gone was nothing more than my opinion. I blocked everyone's postings on Facebook except for six people; my wife, three relatives, a childhood friend that only posts about sports and one of my wife's "friends" that always posts multiple incredibly asinine updates about her life that we always read aloud in a wacky voice we have created for her pointless ramblings. I also have 20 friends tied to my account and use the site about twice a month. It's awesome. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Territorial Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 Maybe I'm just tired of wrestling fans who constantly whine that wrestling needs the return of ECW, the NWO, and the Attitude Era and then everything will be great. All three of those wore out their welcome by the end, and none were particularly good in their later years. People want to copy things like ECW and the nWo without understanding what made them work to begin with (despite creating it (sorta), Bischoll seems to have no idea why the nWo angle took off). A lot of what made those three work is that they were new and fresh.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobra Commander Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 There's hopefully new/fresh things left to do, although the demographics on the people liking that new fresh stuff may differ from people who pine for the 90s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victator Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 ECW was actually really underrated in 2000. The in ring work tended to be good with guys like Corino and CW Anderson coming to the forefront, along with Tajiri, Kid Kash and the FBI. The booking got pretty bad* by the time the TNN show was ending. With main events ending in disqualifications and other non finishes. *Compared to modern booking by WWE and TNA, it is about average. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skelemania Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 I remember liking a lot of the later tag stuff. Whipwreck/Tajiri & Guido/Mamaluke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRGoldman Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 I really liked Corino's run in the main event run in 2000. On the ECW/NWO revivalists, a few years ago a bunch of regional theatres surveyed all their subscribers to see what sort of plays they wanted to see in the coming seasons. Almost all of the subscribers submitted a list of plays that they had recently seen or had fond memories of, but the theatres that embraced those results had poorer attendance because the subscriber bases all felt as though they had no reason to see the same things over again. I feel like the same thing is true for wrestling audiences right now. If polled, the majority of people would say they want things booked like they were when we first started watching, but if that actually happened, most long time fans would end up feeling alienated and the program would inevitably look worse because the viewer would constantly be comparing to an angle that has become untouchable in their eyes. Gosh, I hope that makes sense and doesn't come across as completely nonsensical. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MADCAP Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 So one of my customers names is Ken Anderson, so when he came into my office I announced him as.....well you know the rest. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bustronaut Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 An asshole? 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muhammedboehm Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 Maybe I'm just tired of wrestling fans who constantly whine that wrestling needs the return of ECW, the NWO, and the Attitude Era and then everything will be great. Personally I agree with this. But I don't mind folks talking about what happened during those eras, hell, lots of times I learn something I didn't previously know from the people here. It hasn't been bad on this particular board, but I've read others who are bad about wanting the good ole days back. For example I had no idea Lita was in ECW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 Why should anyone "just let ECW die already"? Should we let the NWA "just die"? Or Smokey Mountain, or WCW, or the glory days of AJPW? I just don't get why there is the huge ECW backlash. It was the best promotion going in the US for a while and people, like me, have very fond memories of the promotion. Why should I let that "just die"? The promotion is dead, but please.....LEAVE THE MEMORIES ALONE!!!! If anyone here let WCW "just die", there would be next to no wrestling discussion on DVDVR. THEN WE COULDN'T TALK ABOUT BARRY WINDHAM! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victator Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 Barry Windham is great. It is a shame his knees fell apart in 1993. He had his moments after that but was never the same. Could somebody upload Barry vs Corino from 2001? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skelemania Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 Maybe I'm just tired of wrestling fans who constantly whine that wrestling needs the return of ECW, the NWO, and the Attitude Era and then everything will be great. Personally I agree with this. But I don't mind folks talking about what happened during those eras, hell, lots of times I learn something I didn't previously know from the people here. It hasn't been bad on this particular board, but I've read others who are bad about wanting the good ole days back. For example I had no idea Lita was in ECW She was Miss Congeniality, a valet for Danny Doring. He proposed to her at a random PPV & used a condom instead of a ring on her finger. She wasn't around for long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caley Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 Maybe I'm just tired of wrestling fans who constantly whine that wrestling needs the return of ECW, the NWO, and the Attitude Era and then everything will be great. Personally I agree with this. But I don't mind folks talking about what happened during those eras, hell, lots of times I learn something I didn't previously know from the people here. It hasn't been bad on this particular board, but I've read others who are bad about wanting the good ole days back. For example I had no idea Lita was in ECW She was Miss Congeniality, a valet for Danny Doring. He proposed to her at a random PPV & used a condom instead of a ring on her finger. She wasn't around for long. She also helped Dawn Marie paddle Tammy Sytch, which was probably the most-used (by ECW) clip ever involving Miss Congeniality. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niners Fan in CT Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 Didn't Jazz attack her in ECW at one point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie M. Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 WWF really enhanced Lita's look so I can't blame people if they didn't put two and two together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muhammedboehm Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 Has anyone ever had a match at Royal Rumble and then one the Royal Rumble match? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabremike Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 Booking in 2000 ECW was largely done by Dreamer IIRC. Heyman was preoccupied with trying to save the company. The last 2 great ECW shows (debut at Hammerstein) were booked by Paul, which is one of the reasons they were great shows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sydneybrown Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 Has anyone ever had a match at Royal Rumble and then one the Royal Rumble match? Bret was in a tag with Owen against the Quebecers, then later (co)won it in 1994. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Web Conn Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 He co won it with Luger tho. Doing anything with Luger cant be much of a victory. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nice Guy Eddie Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 Has anyone ever had a match at Royal Rumble and then one the Royal Rumble match? The first one that comes to mind is Bret Hart in '94. Bret & Owen vs. The Quebecers when Owen kicked Bret's leg out of his leg. Then, Bret & Luger were co-winners of the Royal Rumble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nate Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 Has anyone ever had a match at Royal Rumble and then one the Royal Rumble match?The first one that comes to mind is Bret Hart in '94. Bret & Owen vs. The Quebecers when Owen kicked Bret's leg out of his leg. Then, Bret & Luger were co-winners of the Royal Rumble. I sincerely don't try to be an asshole, per se, but my brain is about to explode; you know what I'm dying to ask, right? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nice Guy Eddie Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 Has anyone ever had a match at Royal Rumble and then one the Royal Rumble match?The first one that comes to mind is Bret Hart in '94. Bret & Owen vs. The Quebecers when Owen kicked Bret's leg out of his leg. Then, Bret & Luger were co-winners of the Royal Rumble.I sincerely don't try to be an asshole, per se, but my brain is about to explode; you know what I'm dying to ask, right?I was quoting Owen w/ that line. When asked by Todd Pettengill after the match why he did it, Owen said something then says "And that's why I kicked your leg out of your leg." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cool arrow Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 Didn't Owen also say Bret was "shellfish?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nate Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 Oooh, actually I *do* remember that! Now I want to watch that again ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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