Phantom Lord Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 I hate the whole "no one comes to save anyone" policy the locker room seems to have. If this were the mid 80s, the whole face locker room would have come running out with chairs in hand to run off Orton. Now we just sit around and watch for five or so minutes as the feel good story of Edge returning is turned into a horror story with Orton trying to rebreak his neck. I'm sure it will look a little better when the edited version is up on youtube, but the long gaps live just reinforced my anger over WHY DIDNT ANYONE COME OUT TO SAVE EDGE? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Cincinnati Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 12 minutes ago, TheVileOne said: Why wouldn't Orton do that to Edge? He's Randy Orton. He hears voices in his head and they talk to him. 3 minutes ago, Curt McGirt said: Orton needing justification for doing something bad to somebody is just about the silliest goddamn thing ever. IT'S RANDY ORTON. He's a scumbag. Correct. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 2 minutes ago, Phantom Lord said: I hate the whole "no one comes to save anyone" policy the locker room seems to have. If this were the mid 80s, the whole face locker room would have come running out with chairs in hand to run off Orton. Now we just sit around and watch for five or so minutes as the feel good story of Edge returning is turned into a horror story with Orton trying to rebreak his neck. I'm sure it will look a little better when the edited version is up on youtube, but the long gaps live just reinforced my anger over WHY DIDNT ANYONE COME OUT TO SAVE EDGE? Said the same as did @sabremike. I joked they were in the Phantom Zone. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 Zelina Vega's great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.Z Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 This year is Kairimania. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gonzo Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 46 minutes ago, Whodathunkit said: I'm sad Edge's hair and beard have turned heel on him in real life. He's paying homage to his old theme music by morphing into Rob Zombie. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 Just now, Gonzo said: He's paying homage to his old theme music by morphing into Rob Zombie. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyWhioux Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 1 minute ago, Phantom Lord said: I hate the whole "no one comes to save anyone" policy the locker room seems to have. If this were the mid 80s, the whole face locker room would have come running out with chairs in hand to run off Orton. Now we just sit around and watch for five or so minutes as the feel good story of Edge returning is turned into a horror story with Orton trying to rebreak his neck. I'm sure it will look a little better when the edited version is up on youtube, but the long gaps live just reinforced my anger over WHY DIDNT ANYONE COME OUT TO SAVE EDGE? WWE can't book a white meat babyface without him/her coming off as a lame catchphrase-and-buzzword dispensing goober. It is only when they demonstrate/develop a cocky asshole edge to themselves that they connect with the crowd and get over. Thus, all top babyfaces are arrogant assholes. Ergo, not only do they have no friends to help them, every other top face lets the beatdown happen because A) the victim has it coming, and B) the non-interventionist other babyface is also the sort of asshole who'd let it happen. I'm tempted to call it Austin Syndrome since it seems to trace back to the lionization of him and his "loner rebel [reformed] tweener" attitude as a heroic virtue and repeated [failed] attempts to re-invent their most popular draw of the last 25 years without fully understanding why he drew. But I suspect if I looked closer the roots probably stretch back to Hogan. Vince thinks gets getting jumped on your own admirable and having friends care enough about you to save you is shameful, I guess. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyWhioux Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 except one time Carmella of all people actually did make a territorial babyface save just because it was The Right Thing To Do a few months back and I will never stop laughing at the thought her as the last bastion of territorial facedom 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fowler Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 I'm perfectly fine with Orton vs Edge at Mania, but I wish they would've done a short Rated RKO run before the turn. Like a match at Elimination Chamber. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Execproducer Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 14 minutes ago, BobbyWhioux said: except one time Carmella of all people actually did make a territorial babyface save just because it was The Right Thing To Do a few months back and I will never stop laughing at the thought her as the last bastion of territorial facedom "There's Carmella, standing tall!!!!". As far as Hogan, didn't watch enough of his WWF stuff in real time but, at least in the AWA, it wasn't at all uncommon for him to make saves. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Mann Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Execproducer said: "There's Carmella, standing tall!!!!". As far as Hogan, didn't watch enough of his WWF stuff in real time but, at least in the AWA, it wasn't at all uncommon for him to make saves. WWF kicked off an angle that was arguably their best long-term storytelling and as a bonus spat $1000 bills from 1987-89 based on this premise. Edited January 28, 2020 by Josh Mann 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kafkonia Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 How often has WWF/E ever had the locker room save a face from a beatdown? I mean, even the Hogan/Macho save was the result of Elizabeth going to get him. Maybe if Beth had been there... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Execproducer Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 She probably would have done it herself. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piranesi Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 I was more bothered by the fat that one RKO and a chair to the back knocked him out cold for five minutes but at Mania he will kick out of six to ten of each. Ring rust? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyWhioux Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 4 minutes ago, piranesi said: I was more bothered by the fat that one RKO and a chair to the back knocked him out cold for five minutes but at Mania he will kick out of six to ten of each. Ring rust? he's been gone so long he got confused and thought he was working Survivor Series instead 1 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niners Fan in CT Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 With the way this is going the only way Kairi is getting close to that pirate ship is if she becomes a Buccaneers season ticket holder. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadianChris Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 Roman’s good for a save once a month or two. and Rey and Riccochet saved Randy a month or two ago. After their theme hit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuerrillaMonsoon Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 I loved that time when Andre attacked Hogan on SNME, and the babyface roster emptied in unprecedented fashion - Bulldogs, Duggan, JYD, Jake, Strike Force....and Andre just doesn't give a fuck and puts a beating on Hulk anyway. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Mann Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 If no one was willing to save Ricky Steamboat from any of the times he was almost murdered in 1985-86, then no one's character is going to be saved, period. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, RolandTHTG said: I loved that time when Andre attacked Hogan on SNME, and the babyface roster emptied in unprecedented fashion - Bulldogs, Duggan, JYD, Jake, Strike Force....and Andre just doesn't give a fuck and puts a beating on Hulk anyway. Same here. Edited January 28, 2020 by The Natural Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamal Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 Charlotte/Asuka was pretty good. Looks like this is heading to her challenging for the tag titles at Mania, which makes no sense for her character, but I would still prefer to the alternatives. Liv/Lana was fine for what it was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIShane Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 6 hours ago, The Natural said: Look how smooth that was by Asuka. Swank! It’s nice to see how much her and Charlotte trust each other and how there’s always something different in their matches. Also thought Becky’s ultra-arrogant promo was interesting. Feels like she’s being set up to take a fall soon, perhaps from Shayna. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Octopus Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 6 hours ago, Phantom Lord said: I hate the whole "no one comes to save anyone" policy the locker room seems to have. If this were the mid 80s, the whole face locker room would have come running out with chairs in hand to run off Orton. Now we just sit around and watch for five or so minutes as the feel good story of Edge returning is turned into a horror story with Orton trying to rebreak his neck. I'm sure it will look a little better when the edited version is up on youtube, but the long gaps live just reinforced my anger over WHY DIDNT ANYONE COME OUT TO SAVE EDGE? The hallways to the locker room are much longer now. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paintedbynumbers Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 So I am guessing AJ is missing mania? Orton-Styles would have been fun but Orton-Edge is going to be great. Put the OC with Balor in NXT and bring AJ back as a face to feud with Balor. Kill 2 birds with 1 stone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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