Spontaneous Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 You'd think they would have waited until Survivor Series so they can do champion vs champion and have him come out after that match, you'd have no idea who he is cashing in on. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nice Guy Eddie Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 (edited) 45 minutes ago, supremebve said: Billy Gunn was never going to be a singles star. He was not very good in the ring, not a good promo, and has nothing about him that says he could be a star. I'm never looked at Billy gun and thought, he needed a bigger push. He's a good tag team guy, but he probably wouldn't get to Intercontinental level in my personal promotion (Shout out to Stugotz). Billy's match with Benoit at Armageddon 2000 was pretty much his last shot at being a singles guy. He blew up really early into the match and nearly dropped Benoit on his head with a gorilla press slam. If Benoit couldn't get something good out of someone, they were pretty much worthless. Edited May 31, 2019 by Nice Guy Eddie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Web Conn Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 Can't knock Billy's punches though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxB Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 Billy still does stomp punches from the 80s. Everyone else moved on to thigh slap kicks, or just chops, or slap punches. But he stamps his foot on the ground to add noise to strikes, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Custos Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 24 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said: Billy's match with Benoit at Armageddon 2000 was pretty much his last shot at being a singles guy. He blew up really early into the match and nearly dropped Benoit on his head with a gorilla press slam. If Benoit couldn't get something good out of someone, they were pretty much worthless. Bruce Pritchard said on his podcast (and come to your own conclusion on his honesty in general) that Billy suffered from asthma or similar respiratory illness that held him back and was responsible for him blowing up so bad and presumably instances like Eddie describes. Either way, whether because of his health issues or as demonstrated before our eyes in the quality of his singles matches, he was certainly more suited to tag matches. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 PWI is saying that AOP will be returning shortly on the Smackdown side 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RazorbladeKiss87 Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 On 5/30/2019 at 2:47 PM, odessasteps said: It’s often said in journalism and academia that the quickest way to stop loving something is to cover/study it. I had a prof in grad school who read comics but would not teach them for that reason. When I graduated with my cinema studies degree, I couldn't stand to watch any movies for a good 8-10 months. I honestly still don't have the same passion or interest I did going into college, so yeah, this makes total sense. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tromatagon Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 Yeah my screenwriting grad degree did the same thing. I still can't get into TV shows years later, but I'm good with movies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bustronaut Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 8 minutes ago, RIPPA said: PWI is saying that AOP will be returning shortly on the Smackdown side Please repackage them as Liberal Congresspeople just so they can hashtag #AOPisWWE 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirSmUgly Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 @supremebveThat Trout/Deion analogy is perfect for encapsulating where you're coming from. Re: Billy Gunn, I think (as @Matt Dalludes to) that knowing when to just let tag team specialists be tag team specialists is something lost. Plus, the world needs good tag team wrestling. I miss how seriously, for example, the NWA Tag Team Championship was taken. Shit, they got me hot for U.S. Tag Team Championship matches in '88-'89, for that matter. They so rarely get it right when splitting up a tag team. There are only so many Shawn Michaels's out there. I am surprised at hearing how well Kofi Kingston's title reign is going, in that regard, or at least the impression that I get is that he's doing pretty well in his run. If you had told me that a New Day member would be World Champ in 2019 a few years back, I would have looked forward to the Big E championship reign I knew was coming. Kofi turned into what I'd consider a very good tag worker - good selling and a good FIP as a face, adept with his cheating and good at the rapid tag heel control part of a match as a heel. I wouldn't have put him much beyond that myself, but good for him if he's making the most of his singles career renaissance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eivion Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 1 minute ago, Smelly McUgly said: I am surprised at hearing how well Kofi Kingston's title reign is going, in that regard, or at least the impression that I get is that he's doing pretty well in his run. If you had told me that a New Day member would be World Champ in 2019 a few years back, I would have looked forward to the Big E championship reign I knew was coming. Kofi turned into what I'd consider a very good tag worker - good selling and a good FIP as a face, adept with his cheating and good at the rapid tag heel control part of a match as a heel. I wouldn't have put him much beyond that myself, but good for him if he's making the most of his singles career renaissance. Kofi was having good singles matches for years before New Day. It just that so damn many of them were with Ziggler and Cesaro to the point where it was tiring. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirSmUgly Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 5 minutes ago, Eivion said: Kofi was having good singles matches for years before New Day. It just that so damn many of them were with Ziggler and Cesaro to the point where it was tiring. Sure, but I wouldn't say that they were the type of matches that made me think that he'd fit right into the main-event style matches that a World Champ usually wrestles in the company. I always thought of him as a perfectly decent worker in-ring, not much more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbarrie Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 23 minutes ago, RazorbladeKiss87 said: When I graduated with my cinema studies degree, I couldn't stand to watch any movies for a good 8-10 months. I honestly still don't have the same passion or interest I did going into college, so yeah, this makes total sense. Of course - those are arts/humanities degrees. I've never heard of a science student whose love of the thing they were studying wasn't deepened by their study. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eivion Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 10 minutes ago, Smelly McUgly said: Sure, but I wouldn't say that they were the type of matches that made me think that he'd fit right into the main-event style matches that a World Champ usually wrestles in the company. I can see this argument. I always thought Kofi was solid, occasionally good, basically perfect for IC/US level. Its been impressive how he has stepped up for the main event matches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirSmUgly Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 I wouldn't even say that it's specific to Humanities. I was a Lit major and I still read fifty or sixty books a year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bustronaut Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 (edited) 13 minutes ago, tbarrie said: Of course - those are arts/humanities degrees. I've never heard of a science student whose love of the thing they were studying wasn't deepened by their study. I've got a friend that was going for their biochem doctorate and quit completely after some terrible experiences with coworkers/management in the lab ETA: Fun fact, he drew my avatar Edited May 31, 2019 by Bustronaut 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Cincinnati Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 (edited) Moxley was on something this week called Flip The Strip. Mentioning it here because Mox discussed getting a call from Steve Austin and them having a chat. So whatever beef there may have been from the awkward podcast, sounds like it's gone. Won't stop people from continuing to bring it up, but there it is. Edited May 31, 2019 by West Newbury Bad Boy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoneWolf&Subs Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 (edited) 25 minutes ago, West Newbury Bad Boy said: Won't stop people from continuing to bring it up, but there it is. It’s hard not to. The gifs, and parody videos were everywhere. That interview did him no favors. Those Stone Cold podcasts did nobody any favors whatsoever really. Edited May 31, 2019 by LoneWolf&Subs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fowler Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 2 hours ago, Six String Orchestra said: You'd think they would have waited until Survivor Series so they can do champion vs champion and have him come out after that match, you'd have no idea who he is cashing in on. Even better, cash in during the match. Now it's a triple threat for both belts. Would be kinda poetic justice on Rollins. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fowler Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 https://www.forbes.com/sites/blakeoestriecher/2019/05/31/wwe-morale-is-the-worst-its-ever-been-and-vince-mcmahon-is-taking-the-blame/amp/ There isn't any new information here or anything, but the fact that Forbes is publishing about WWE's backstage morale is interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirSmUgly Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 Forbes Contributor : Forbes Magazine :: TEDx Talk : TED Talk 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziggy Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 4 hours ago, supremebve said: Who is the #1 "don't believe a damn thing he says" person in wrestling history? I'm thinking its Hogan, but the wrestling industry is full of dudes who love telling whoopers. I'm so Behind in listening to both his and Pritchards podcasts. I might just select a few episodes depending on the topic instead of trying to catch up with all of them. JRs podcast was been really good and seems like he's brutally honest, If there is bs ,its alot less obvious. That Owen podcast was unsettling but he didn't come across too much of a Company guy in this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoneWolf&Subs Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 2 minutes ago, L_W_P said: Wait he had asthema? So was JR's constant "Billy Gunn is the best pure atha-lete in the WWF" line just a rib that nobody picked up on? As honest as Taker being “The best pure striker”. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxB Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 5 hours ago, supremebve said: Who is the #1 "don't believe a damn thing he says" person in wrestling history? I'm thinking its Hogan, but the wrestling industry is full of dudes who love telling whoopers. Are you suggesting that the man who slammed the 9'6", 4000 lb Andre the Giant at Wrestlemania in front of 9 million paying customers is in any way economical with the truth? For shame, sir! Andre actually died earlier that day week month, but he still wrestled. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KidNatural Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 It's either Hogan or Eric Bischoff when he's defending Hulk Hogan. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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