Brian Fowler Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 4 minutes ago, Ultimo Necro said: If Davey Richards does that Superplex / Falcon Arrow reversal spot that Rollins and Balor done we’d have 20 pages of “ugh this is awful” It was literally that spot minus another reversal. Just ugh. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(BP) Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 5 minutes ago, Matt D said: I'm high on Almas but hate that he does the double moonsault in every match. At least with Almas there's some psychology and it works in a vacuum, plus we know that once a cool spot is introduced WWE wrestlers get pigeonholed into getting it in every match. The superplex thing would still be terrible even if Rollins conserved it like it was the Burning Hammer and not a shitty transition spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Cincinnati Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 I agree that the spot is a bit much. But wrestling has gone so far since the initial Davey debate that I offer it the same dismissal I do Roman’s booking: After all this time, I don’t have the energy for full-throated outrage. That spot doesn’t do much to take my eye off the great year Rollins is having. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fowler Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 My only problem with the basic superplex into falcon arrow is that it REALLY should be a finish. But the immediate counter into the other guy hitting the falcon arrow is just awful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Cincinnati Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 3 minutes ago, Brian Fowler said: My only problem with the basic superplex into falcon arrow is that it REALLY should be a finish. Super finish for big matches only if I had my way. But wrestling isn’t that these days, so I’m not too fussed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 9 minutes ago, (BP) said: At least with Almas there's some psychology and it works in a vacuum, plus we know that once a cool spot is introduced WWE wrestlers get pigeonholed into getting it in every match. The superplex thing would still be terrible even if Rollins conserved it like it was the Burning Hammer and not a shitty transition spot. It'd just be better if he hit a normal moonsault once in a while. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig H Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 Again, this is the issue with less is more, but it happens all the time. The rebound lariat goes here. So does something else we just mentioned. If it happens every once in awhile then it's so much more effective and cool looking. Something that spectacular shouldn't be done regularly because then it ceases to look spectacular. It's then just a normal spot. In some ways I feel that WWE has done a good job with conditioning the crowd to react more to stuff that doesn't happen that often now. In other ways they've gotten even worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Cincinnati Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 14 minutes ago, Matt D said: It'd just be better if he hit a normal moonsault once in a while. Lordy, I was here after buying my first three DVDs featuring Kota Ibushi. Seeing that bleed into WWE main event epics has been fun and awful at the same time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niners Fan in CT Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 I've seen some very high praise on here for some Will Ospreay matches and the like. If you have an issue with over-the-top ridiculous spots and the no selling of them, that's cool just be consistent with your hate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaedmc Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 I don't know about these other lunatics, but I'm totally consistent. I saw one Will Ospreay match from the most recent Wrestle Kingdom and it was terrible. Even my 10 year old was like "Why doesn't that guy stay down when he gets hit with a move?" 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Green Meanie Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 I enjoyed Jean-Paul and Francois, but did they have to go with such obvious names, and no last names? Might as well have gone with Frenchy and Pierre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyld Samurai Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 Jean Paul & Francois need to be on 205. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Hero Morganti Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 I would fucking love 3.0 on nxt or 205 regularly 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamBroken Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 Love the Alexa praise here. Natalya/Mickie was enjoyable though really short, the ringside and post match stuff was super fun. Elias/Roode was pretty good stuff and I really liked Ruby/Sasha, glad they kept the bff bs drama out of it and let them go. Still sick of Braun and don't see top guy anything there. Reigns and Lashley work the whole match until Braun gets the hot tag and wins in the same fashion as always, boring. Corbin looks to be in the same position on a different brand, still taking every opportunity to make him look foolish. Loved the main event, probably my favorite Rollins/Balor match thus far. I thought Rollins initial face turn run sucked, was super forced, and was absolutely ridiculous that he beat Joe and Triple H back to back on one leg, the ensuing Owens feud was totally forgettable. Nowadays I think he's come a long way since then and he's finally clicking as a face. Last night was crazy how over he was for the promo segment, definitely came off like the most popular guy there. Also that superplex falcon arrow was always a Davey spot but since Seth adopted it, I have been waiting for the last three years for someone to counter it with both guys going over the top rope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victator Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 57 minutes ago, Hagan said: I just worry that six months of Strowman six-minute title defenses on PPV where he goes over every heel clean is putting us in the same territory that killed Brock. I mean, Brock was the most over guy in the company before this reign started to sour people, too. People were turning on Brock before the title reign started. Losing to Goldberg diffused it some and the Wrestlemania match and Joe feuds helped. But after Braun it was obvious he does not give a shit. The last worthwhile thing he did was the AJ Styles match. I am not going to take points away because AJ is great. But if you can't have at least a good match with AJ, you need to be released. I would be fine with Rollins as a face champion. Most of his title reigns problems were not his fault. He was put in a role that did not suit him. He was playing lap dog for Hunter and Stephanie a lot of the time and the booking was not very good. I think his good out weights his bad. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeathyBoy Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 People hating on Rollings is hilarious when you literally have AJ cutting poor promos weekly on SD Live. Good promos aren’t conductive to being a top guy in 2018. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fowler Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 21 minutes ago, DeathyBoy said: People hating on Rollings is hilarious when you literally have AJ cutting poor promos weekly on SD Live. Good promos aren’t conductive to being a top guy in 2018. They aren't even close to being as bad as Rollins. He's literally one of my least favorite promo guys ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 12 hours ago, jaedmc said: Can we all agree that no matter how good/bad he is, his superplex spots being a normal spot in his matches is fucking awful? Probably not. : D 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeathyBoy Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 1 hour ago, Brian Fowler said: They aren't even close to being as bad as Rollins. He's literally one of my least favorite promo guys ever. Those Kami promos were atrocious. Face AJ is a terrible promo. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChesterCopperpot Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 13 hours ago, Wyld Samurai said: Jean Paul & Francois need to be on 205. One already was Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overly Critical Man Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 Right now, Rollins is probably perfectly slotted as an IC title holder tbh. Let him hold the title another six months and maybe then everyone will be on board with having him hold the world title again. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeathyBoy Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 12 hours ago, Overly Critical Man said: Right now, Rollins is probably perfectly slotted as an IC title holder tbh. Let him hold the title another six months and maybe then everyone will be on board with having him hold the world title again. I’m fine with Brock as part time champ because man they’ve really made the IC title mean something. Love how Rollins, Balor and Miz refuse to see it as a consolation prize. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fowler Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 I really would like to see Seth in a permanent tag team. He's legitimately good in tag matches, and hopefully the partner could do all the talking. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 26 minutes ago, Brian Fowler said: I really would like to see Seth in a permanent tag team. He's legitimately good in tag matches, and hopefully the partner could do all the talking. Agreed. Shame the Shield reunion got messed up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 Thoughts, @Brian Fowler? While co-hosting Busted Open Radio, Mark Henry praised Seth Rollins and how good he’s gotten: “Seth Rollins, right now, is for your money, to me, he’s one of the most exciting guys wrestling. He’s getting to that ‘great’ stratusphere, like beyond elite. He’s becoming, dare I say, Hall of Fame caliber. He’s going to be one of the best before it’s all said and done with.” 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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