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7 hours ago, mattdangerously said:

If it was a Seinfeld reference, I agree.

You asked for it.

 

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10 hours ago, Casey said:

It's still the Glam Squad or whatever the fuck they're called.

One of the make up artists left and then went on Twitter and said WWE don't pay the women well meaning performers.  

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12 hours ago, ChesterCopperpot said:

Been mentioned in a few other threads but Brock has officially re-signed and will be defening vs Roman at that Rumble show in Saudi Arabia in a cage match 

 

 

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I remember before Paige got the call up there were reports of WWEs hesitancy to bring her up because of her age out of fear the main roster would eat her up alive. It feel like she lived a lifetime in the past four years. Damn.

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Got some time at work so going to jot down some Mania weekend notes and observations. This was my 3rd Wrestlemania but the first time I’ve had the ability to do independent shows. By and large, this was my first exposure to any of these guys live this weekend.

 

Thursday:

Wrestlecon Supershow:

-          Great crowd and atmosphere. Sell-out crowd so spent most of the night standing and jockeying for position. One of the more fun shows of the weekend. Venue was great with reasonably priced beer. I’m kind of bummed it was so early in the weekend as I had just come off the road and was rushing to make it. Would have been nice to watch it in a more relaxed state

-          Joey Janela carries himself like a superstar.

-          Jeff Cobb had an overall great weekend. Fantastic, G1-level match with Ishii. I’m often cold on Cobb’s stuff but he showed good intensity.  He really should have an NJPW spot.

-          Fenix/Horus vs Bandito/Flamita was a fantastic spot-fest. Sound was a little spotty during the intros so it was hard at first to keep everyone straight. I mean, I know three out of these four guys from LU and other indies but not being a lucha watcher per se it gets pretty hectic following it in a live-setting.

-          Ospreay comes across like the biggest star in the world live. What a gutty weekend. Also, he’s a great seller. Was glad to see Adam Brookes, though I don’t recall him standing out. Your usual quickie four-way flippy match.

-          People lost their mind when Suzuki came out. He was going to be the one guy I was going to miss that weekend so great to experience him and Kaze Ni Nare live. Tanahashi has an aura about him as well. What surprised me was how good Juice comes across live. Good charisma and size and also carries himself like a star. David Starr’s entrance always amusing, too.

-          Chuckie T was the star of the main event. Great promo work and worked hard. Omega and Ibushi, obviously, didn’t kill themselves but just seeing them live is a trip. This was a hot, fun crowd. People fucking with Flip about being a flat Earther always fun, too.  My hunch is Evolve was a better show but this is such a good smorgasbord of the top wrestling talent in the world.

Friday:

PROGRESS: Mardi Graps:

-          It’s very easy to bag on Smallman’s monologues before and during the show, but, man, seeing it live I loved it. He gave just the most lovely speech that basically culminated with him stating that pro wrestling was the greatest thing in the world and that if you liked pro wrestling you were his friend and that anyone who likes pro wrestling will always be your friend, as well. This was Heyman-levels of inspiration without the “take unprotected chairshots for no pay and slam Klonopins after” underdone.  This was such a fun, emotional, hot crowd.

-          Venue in Kenner is great. Awesome sight lines. Reasonable prices. Great vibe. The hotel that everyone was staying at was next door so you could dip over a coffee or beer in between shows or sit in the lobby and charge your phone. There was a riverboat casino across the street as well. I’ve been to New Orleans a thousand times but obviously never go over the bridge much. Was very impressed with the whole setup.

-          Mustache Mountain is a full-on comedy team now but they do it well. Grizzled Young Vets are sneakily great. I feel WWE is going to take all the fun out of Trent Seven. Pre-match bants was the highlight but the action was good.

-          Ospreay continues his insane weekend and has a nifty match with the very short Mark Haskins. Haskins is billed as 5’10. There is no fucking way. 

-          Seeing WALTER live is something. More to come with that. Seeing Keith Lee live also something, too.

-          Maxwell Jacob Friedman is good on the mic. He got an EC2 chant, which basically sums him up.

-          Riddle vs Havoc was fun but too short. Sometimes Riddle’s sprints comes across a bit flat to me. It comes across less as “what a war” and more “Riddle has to get an Uber across town” sometimes.  This was Riddle’s like 1st match of four of the day so it was a bit perfunctory.

-          Dunne turning

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the Bitter End into a fucking tombstone

was one of the most authentic holy shit pops of the weekend.

-          Travis Banks might be the most over-pushed in wrestling.

Evolve 103:

-          Everyone went to Rev Pro so it was barely half of PROGRESS in the crowd. I enjoyed being away from a jam-packed crowd for a bit and made plenty of visits to the bar during this show.

-          Theory vs Lee was good with a surprise finish.

-          AR Fox has a fun superstar gimmick.

-          WALTER’S chops are something to behold.

-          I was unfamiliar with Sawa but really enjoyed his work.

-          Riddle vs Sekimoto was a goddamn war. Vicious, nasty, brutal match.

Mercury Rising:

-          First time seeing Sabre Jr. As I’ve noted, sometimes the submission, grappling stuff turns me off.  Him and Sawa worked hard. This is a match I want to re-visit.

-          Work Horsemen put on a fun garbage brawl and managed to stand out on a loaded day.

-          Sekimoto and Lee was a good hoss fight.

-          Riddle and Ospreay was maybe the match of the weekend. Just a fantastic match between world-class wrestlers in front of a crowd losing their mind.

Saturday:

PROGRESS: Bourbon Is Also A Biscuit

-          Will cut a speech basically explaining how fucked up he was and if he could have a nice fun intergender match. Ospreay/Kay Lee Ray and Jinny/Austin Theory proceeded to tear the fucking house down. Definitely a match to watch. Just a ton of fun and everyone worked their asses. Jinny and KLR looked great, too.

-          WALTER vs ZSJ another contender to match of the weekend. WALTER batted around Sabre like a bear playing with a rabbit. Stiff, brutal, nasty match in what may have been Zack’s swan song to the indie scene for a while.

-          Banks laid an egg against Cobb. Nothing with his stuff is working. His promo to start was cringe and the crowd that cared was pulling for Cobb to win even though he’s very much an outsider and PROGRESS fans are nothing if not loyal to their guys.

ROH

-          Hated the venue. Way the fuck in the middle of nowhere and expensive.

-          Hot, hot crowd who fucking pops huge for Cody. I mean, Cody was more over than Omega for this crowd. There’s a whole discussion about the differences between ROH fans, WWE fans and independent fans.  ROH is really hot but with a unique audience.

-          Ishii and Martinez was fun and stiff. Martinez is still rough but Ishii can carry a broom to a great match.

-          Hangman vs Ibushi was fantastic. Page is having a fantastic few weeks and is turning the corner on his work. He’s starting to get over, too.

-          Ladder match was your ladder match spotfest. Not as crazy as some others you’ll see. Bucks did their Bucks thing. Flip is still very hit and miss. Overbooking was a little ridiculous with this but, like Mania, halfway through the show this show is looking like a thumbs up. Unfortunately, we still had many, many hours to go.

-          Briscoes vs Tana and Lethal didn’t much. First major disappointment of the night. Something just didn’t click and the intermission post-ladder match started to flag the crowd. It was also starting to get late on a rainy Saturday. People were very eager to see Omega vs Cody.

-          Young vs King went on forever and no one cared. This is where ROH is doing the weird WWE-style of match arrangement where you’re putting matches in dead spots. The only thing that could have followed that ladder match was Cody and Omega.

-          Bully Ray continued to kill the crowd dead with that nonsensical, endless segment. At this point, I’m actively wishing harm on Delirious.

-          Cody vs Omega was great. Everything the first chapter needed to be. It was very much a Cody match, which the crowd was fine with. Good finish in what is the best story in wrestling.

-          Castle vs Scurll was TOO FUCKING LONG. Legitimately, this weekend should provide the final lesson that cards don’t need to go past four hours, tops. It’s death for the live crowd who is probably cold, tired and, if not willing to shell out a ton of money at the concession stand, hungry, sober and thirsty. These guys could have worked at a Kobashi/Misawa level and I would have hated it. No clue why this went on last. I know that the title should be held sacred but, like WWE, you have to realize what the actual main event of these shows are. The crowd that did stay for it was pretty hot. At this point, I had gone into the lobby to stretch my legs and charge my phone but did walk back in to catch the last few minutes, which seemed pretty hot. On the whole, though, just a way too long, overbooked match to cap a way too long show.

 

Wrestlemania

-          Show was too long. First few hours were great and, like every other year, it falls off a cliff. Entrances were excellent all the way around.

-          Overall, I liked the booking as it set things up moving forward. Charlotte winning was a surprise but it was always gonna either be Rousey or Charlotte ending the streak. Charlotte vs Rousey the more attractive match-up promotional-wise and could very likely headline SummerSlam or Wrestlemania next year.

-          The Superdome FUCKING LOVED Rousey. Superstar pop. Bigger reaction than all but maybe the Undertaker. Any doubt that she should be pushed as the top star should be dispelled.

-          Cena’s squash by Undertaker was hilarious. Kudos for Cena for going along with this goofy angle that saw him humiliated at the end.

-          Crowd by and large stayed hot through the Bryan match. Shane was in the ring way too long and started to flag the crowd.

-          It would be easy to blame Nak and Styles for being flat on the dead crowd but they were hot for Braun. They should have put the WWE title match on earlier in the show. By that point in the night the crowd didn’t have the patience to see moves being exchanged. Moving forward, put your wrestling matches on early and the spectacles on late.

-          Roman and Brock seemed to work really, really hard. Match layout was absurd, though. This was one of those things where the crowd had this idea in their head that wasn’t actually what was being presented to them. I liked Brock winning as you set up the next big show and establish uncertainty in the direction. Wrestlemania 2000/Backlash 2000-level booking.   

 

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Add "tournament" to the list of banned words!!!

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Bryan: "Vince is back on this deal where he doesn't like the word 'draft' , doesn't like the word 'tournament'. I am sure there are more".

Dave: "Thats right they didn't use the word tournament for their tournament"

Bryan: "Not one single time. It is not a tournament. It is a tag team eliminator"

Dave: "Yeah, that is so weird. But, its Vince McMahon".

(To be entirely fair... they have been running a LOT of tournaments recently.  Calling it the Tag Team Eliminator does make it seem different.)

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Yeah when I heard that this morning I was like "Well it makes sense now" but I was trying to figure out when Vince started hating the word

Since it is Cruiserweight Classic, Mae Young Classic, Dusty Rhodes Tag Team Classic

The last time I can think of was the UK Championship Tournament

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I think the King of the Ring is being billed as a U.K. Tournament, per that WWEN ad highlighting new content for 2018. 

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53 minutes ago, PetrolCB said:

I think the King of the Ring is being billed as a U.K. Tournament, per that WWEN ad highlighting new content for 2018. 

It is but I believe it's Hunter's baby so if he wants to call it that I guess he will.  

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Figured this should be said.

They are running AJ Styles vs. Daniel Bryan on Smackdown tonight so you might wanna tune in

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Hope Bryan doesn't spit in AJ's mouth this time. #thatsnotPG

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I knew the people expecting him not to wrestle till SummerSlam were gonna be way off the mark. That short a leash was never gonnna cut it for D Bryan. 

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I just watched the Andre special. Vince Jr. looks really old.

 

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12 minutes ago, ka-to said:

I just watched the Andre special. Vince Jr. looks really old.

 

Did you see the video of him handing out the HOF rings? He is really old.

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Damn Hagan, I think I'd need a holiday to recover from seeing all that this weekend. Kinda jealous though

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guys, how long is this Greatest rumble show going to be. It looks absolutely stacked and starts at noon EST. Is this going to be another 7 hr show?

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15 minutes ago, paintedbynumbers said:

guys, how long is this Greatest rumble show going to be. It looks absolutely stacked and starts at noon EST. Is this going to be another 7 hr show?

It won't be more than 4 hours but honestly I think they keep it around 3.

It is going to be like a house show where none of the matches are longer than 10 minutes. And they aren't going to have many (if any) long interview segments

Only thing of length with be the actual Rumble itself

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Do you think they keep it at o guy every 90 seconds or one guy every minute to save time?  7 title matches,  HHH-Cena,  Taker-Rusev (which will probably be the shortest) it seems like a longer show.  Brock-Roman could go short but I see HHH-Cena getting some time.  I am probably more excited for this show than I should be.

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11 hours ago, PetrolCB said:

He’s 72 and never sleeps. 

He's going to wake up in the Hudson River in a sack.

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5 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

He's going to wake up in the Hudson River in a sack.

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4 hours ago, RIPPA said:

It won't be more than 4 hours but honestly I think they keep it around 3.

It is going to be like a house show where none of the matches are longer than 10 minutes. And they aren't going to have many (if any) long interview segments

Only thing of length with be the actual Rumble itself

Triple H, though.

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43 minutes ago, Zakk_Sabbath said:

https://www.reddit.com/r/SquaredCircle/comments/8biqh3/jerry_lawler_suffered_a_stroke_three_weeks_ago/.compact

 

Who knows if that's legit, but man what a rough go of it the King has had the last couple years healthwise.

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Hey everyone. I co-host Lawler's podcast. 

The King had a stroke three weeks ago and was unable to talk for three days. He was in ICU for those three days. Then, he woke up and was perfectly fine. Doctors thought he wasn't able to be in New Orleans for WrestleMania weekend, but he recovered 100% and is able to wrestle and make appearances. Doctors are baffled about his full recovery.

One tidbit about the story - he had the stroke while having sex.

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