Cristobal Posted July 21, 2014 Posted July 21, 2014 b.) It's funny how the IC title is a death sentence around here until Cesaro is denied it. And I love Cesaro... but it's not like the IC Title of all things is the demarcation line of "just a guy" or not... The previous IC champ LITERALLY compared it to dying of old age.
bink_winkleman Posted July 21, 2014 Posted July 21, 2014 Dean Ambrose is close to being buried? What the fuck? That's absurd. 5
cool arrow Posted July 21, 2014 Posted July 21, 2014 a.) If Brock's coming back, why shouldn't Cena win? I don't want Reigns to win to immediately lose. b.) It's funny how the IC title is a death sentence around here until Cesaro is denied it. And I love Cesaro... but it's not like the IC Title of all things is the demarcation line of "just a guy" or not... Good points. Do we really want Cesaro to win the Kiss of Death title?
Spontaneous Posted July 21, 2014 Posted July 21, 2014 I just don't want Miz as IC champ. I am sick of him and his "movie star" status. He makes direct to DVD films, he isn't a movie star!
The Man Known as Dan Posted July 21, 2014 Posted July 21, 2014 a.) If Brock's coming back, why shouldn't Cena win? I don't want Reigns to win to immediately lose. b.) It's funny how the IC title is a death sentence around here until Cesaro is denied it. And I love Cesaro... but it's not like the IC Title of all things is the demarcation line of "just a guy" or not... A: if Brock's coming back, Brock/Cena shouldn't be about the title. B: if you don't see how much they have botched Cesaro the. You are a fucking loon. 1
SirSmUgly Posted July 21, 2014 Posted July 21, 2014 I loved the third fall of Usos/Wyatts, but the first two falls were so rushed that they were pointless. Lana is amazing. I didn't think Swagger/Rusev was very good, but I liked Rusev's little gestures and mannerisms in the ring. When Swagger was running up for a Swagger bomb, Rusev noticed and weakly put his hands up to half-guard himself, half-shake his hands to beg off before getting hit. I liked that. Also, he remembered to sell the ankle like a champ. Paige is totally lost up here on the big show. Her timing with AJ was off and her character work sucked. They should let her do the anti-Diva thing she was doing in NXT. Remember January, when Bray Wyatt beat D-Bry cleanly and the Wyatts seemed like an unstoppable machine? It feels like well over a year ago by now. I kind of want to see a Kofi/Cesaro series even though their spots were a bit awkward tonight. Titus Young was my favorite thing about that battle royal, and I wish they'd just stick him and Darren Young back together as heels to face the Usos next. I will say that I hope Miz and Ziggler wrestle over the Get Depushed and Lose a Ton of Matches title for awhile so no one else gets tagged with it. The Fatal 4-Way was average. I feel like it was so paint-by-numbers and they could have cut out the first fifteen minutes and gone straight to the finishing run. I thought Ambrose was coming out of the ambulance in a callback to Stone Cold Steve Austin on that last ambush. Ambrose rules, and Rollins is awesome too. Can't wait 'til they have their big PPV match.
Rehabilitated Rick Posted July 21, 2014 Posted July 21, 2014 Could Ambrose not have nicked Rollins briefcase?
Cristobal Posted July 21, 2014 Posted July 21, 2014 So, random stupid shit beyond them screwing the pooch on Cesaro and Ambrose/Rollins: They actually had Lana reference the plane. Are you fucking kidding me? Also: "Warmongoling". Not letting Zeb talk. What the hell was up with Kane's breathing-slash-moaning? I've heard porn actresses make less noise on their backs.
cubbymark Posted July 21, 2014 Posted July 21, 2014 I liked the finish to Swagger/Rusev. Rusev wins but Swagger doesn't get pinned. It keeps that going. 1
pipGofern Posted July 21, 2014 Posted July 21, 2014 Also, gotta love Bryan being the most over man in the main event. Until Reigns hit his one monster spot anyway. I wanna like Reigns and don't wanna be one of those MOVEZ~! people but did this match make it obvious that he has like 3 signature spots and there is very little in between or what. Hopefully they'll find good workers to lead him through until his crowning at Mania.
w. josh Posted July 21, 2014 Posted July 21, 2014 a.) If Brock's coming back, why shouldn't Cena win? I don't want Reigns to win to immediately lose. b.) It's funny how the IC title is a death sentence around here until Cesaro is denied it. And I love Cesaro... but it's not like the IC Title of all things is the demarcation line of "just a guy" or not... Not winning the belt doesn't make him "just a guy." A string of losses on television, followed by losing Heyman, followed by doing nothing interesting in the battle royal aside from being a part of Kofi's Goofy Eliminations Pt. 394848, followed by being eliminated by a job guy, followed by immediately having that elimination be ignored (as in, not even a reaction shot) makes him "just a guy." 1
Spontaneous Posted July 21, 2014 Posted July 21, 2014 [*]They actually had Lana reference the plane. Are you fucking kidding me? This a million times over. What good does this do?
hammerva Posted July 21, 2014 Posted July 21, 2014 Of course it was tasteless but everyone knew that as soon as the plane got shot down and people though that the Russians were responsible that Vince would get a raging hard on and exploit.
bink_winkleman Posted July 21, 2014 Posted July 21, 2014 a.) If Brock's coming back, why shouldn't Cena win? I don't want Reigns to win to immediately lose. b.) It's funny how the IC title is a death sentence around here until Cesaro is denied it. And I love Cesaro... but it's not like the IC Title of all things is the demarcation line of "just a guy" or not... A: if Brock's coming back, Brock/Cena shouldn't be about the title.B: if you don't see how much they have botched Cesaro the. You are a fucking loon. The idea that they should hot shot the title on Reigns with no chase is beyond moronic. Bryan got hurt, and Cena is the only guy right now that can hold it down. 1
steve Posted July 21, 2014 Posted July 21, 2014 I never said he wasn't just a guy at this juncture, I was just pointing out that winning the IC Title wouldn't really make any difference.
The Man Known as Dan Posted July 21, 2014 Posted July 21, 2014 I legit think I became a bull who saw red at some point during this show. Like, I'm becoming a pessimistic bastard constantly about this company when I used to agree with Greg all the time. How can this company have fucked so much up in so little time? 4
SirSmUgly Posted July 21, 2014 Posted July 21, 2014 [*]They actually had Lana reference the plane. Are you fucking kidding me? This a million times over. What good does this do? I wasn't thrilled about it, but at least it was referenced somewhat obliquely and only to throw Afghanistan in the U.S.'s face. It wasn't a totally tasteless "THEY DESERVED TO BE SHOT DOWN" sort of thing, which honestly I half-expected. Not that "It wasn't as bad as it probably could have been" is much of a defense.
Brian Fowler Posted July 21, 2014 Posted July 21, 2014 I tweeted "Ambrose in the trunk, please" and like 4 seconds later it really happened. Yes, it's official, my twitter feed controls Dean Ambrose. 2
Beech27 Posted July 21, 2014 Posted July 21, 2014 I mean, guys, she said "current events". Could be anything. Maybe Russia secretly conspired to prevent the Padres from getting their first no-hitter today? We don't know. 1
Raziel Posted July 21, 2014 Posted July 21, 2014 I tweeted "Ambrose in the trunk, please" and like 4 seconds later it really happened. Yes, it's official, my twitter feed controls Dean Ambrose. Can you tweet Ambrose recreating Austin's rise to the top, minus broken neck? 1
Cristobal Posted July 21, 2014 Posted July 21, 2014 I legit think I became a bull who saw red at some point during this show. Like, I'm becoming a pessimistic bastard constantly about this company when I used to agree with Greg all the time. How can this company have fucked so much up in so little time? Because the only reason they were getting anything right was that the crowd was forcing them to acknowledge what they wanted. You and Gregg were just giving them the benefit of the doubt, or saying "who cares WHY they got it right so long as they got it right?" The answer is: Because the people who got it wrong in the first place are still running the show. 1
Cristobal Posted July 21, 2014 Posted July 21, 2014 I tweeted "Ambrose in the trunk, please" and like 4 seconds later it really happened. Yes, it's official, my twitter feed controls Dean Ambrose. I guessed he'd be in the ambulance.
Spontaneous Posted July 21, 2014 Posted July 21, 2014 I legit think I became a bull who saw red at some point during this show. Like, I'm becoming a pessimistic bastard constantly about this company when I used to agree with Greg all the time. How can this company have fucked so much up in so little time? I agree. Yeah, Bryan getting hurt screwed everything up. But this is unacceptable as their alternative route to Wrestlemania 31. Kane and Orton backstage segments, Miz as IC champ, and Bray Wyatt the "eater of worlds" can't beat old man Jericho one on one.
Niners Fan in CT Posted July 21, 2014 Posted July 21, 2014 Of course it was tasteless but everyone knew that as soon as the plane got shot down and people though that the Russians were responsible that Vince would get a raging hard on and exploit. I was actually thinking they might go the Hassan route and scrap it or at least tone it down some. Vince has a lot of balls, I'll give him that.. I obviously did think it was tasteless but not something I would write to sponsors over. Someone probably will though and that's not good. I'm trying to figure out why this company feels it's a good idea to build around Cena, Kane and Orton. Cena.. ok... fine.. but the other two are so fucking dead right now, nobody cares.. Wyatt, Cesaro, all the guys they were pushing around WM time.. "what the hell is going on out here?" - Another Vince
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