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  1. NJPW Fantasticamania 2018

    Well, they’ve got me really excited to see Naito/Milano. Too bad about the whole retirement thing. (Rush is a bad influence on the LIJ crew, who had seemed downright nice lately.)
  2. NJPW WrestleKingdom 12 in Tokyo Dome 1/4/2018

    It drives me a bit crazy that, for all the interviews Kenny does, no one asks him that. I mean, I get it. You don't want to insinuate he was the backup plan, owes his success to luck, etc. Even in broad terms though, the transition is fascinating. He went from being the chainsaw-arm junior to winning the G1 to headlining with Okada. Virtually everyone treats the last part as the jumping off point for conversations with him, but the whole thing is crazy, and--even in hindsight--seems incredibly risky. I think this is probably about right, and it is interesting to consider how far back--kinda by accident?--Ibushi's BC problems go. He and Kenny wrestled Devitt in tags and singles both before the group was founded, and one of the BC's early group beatdown victims was Ibushi. Then there was AJ, Kenny's timid betrayal, Cody trying to take his head off... yeah. Anyway, I tend to think New Japan had a contingency in place for AJ leaving, because they must have assumed an offer was coming someday, and he'd take it when it did. Losing Nakamura, on the other hand, was probably a shock, and I think it's also really fascinating to wonder what he'd be up to if he had stayed. Does Chaos ever explode? Does Naito become the same sensation without the 1A rebel ace spot cleared? (Not that New Japan isn't doing just fine without him, but a heavyweight scene that still includes Nakamura--and Shibata, while we're wishing--is just unreal.)
  3. NJPW WrestleKingdom 12 in Tokyo Dome 1/4/2018

    Naito, kindly contributing to our discussion about his arc:
  4. Puroresu General Discussion for 2018

    So, Kenoh vs a returning Kaito Kiyomiya was really good. -There's a neck welt and a bloody nose. -Doesn't overstay its welcome, especially by heavyweight title match standards. -Unique finish. -Crowd is, of course, very happy to see Kiyomiya, and gets behind him. But he earns the cheers, too. There are some awkward sequences that look like a nervous guy being a bit careful, but he shows enough passion it's hard to care too much. Funny thing, since he's always referred to as a Misawa fan, and wears the green trunks, that he's decidedly not stoic. If he wore less narratively loaded colors, I'd say he's transparently a Kobashi fan. Regardless, he's a 21-year-old real heavyweight who has real promise, which is obviously great for NOAH. -Kenoh is the present, though, and he kicks really goddamn hard. I have to be honest that he was under my radar until his heavyweight ascent, but he's really compelling so far. I love the run New Japan is currently on, but there's been a bit of a Shibata-shaped hole in my viewing... and, well, Kenoh certainly has a very different aesthetic, but he also has that serious face that's like a taut rubber band, then suddenly vicious, and he lays everything in. Also his robe is great. -Red, black, and gold pants are the trendy outfit for aces now, aren't they? Kenoh, Miyahara, and Okada... Unrelated! Kenny vs Ishikawa would rule. (To say nothing of the others, but it could actually happen.)
  5. NJPW WrestleKingdom 12 in Tokyo Dome 1/4/2018

    If they ever want to lean into the boos Okada gets, having him smugly clothesline the deposed ace-in-name-only to ash would be a really compelling scene. Hell, make it a now-seeded hair vs. hair match, and the whole arena might burn. We’re not there, but it isn’t hard to see how Tana’s current portrayal could be twisted to emphasize the inherent delusion, which must end in tragedy.
  6. NJPW WrestleKingdom 12 in Tokyo Dome 1/4/2018

    This really is an easy thing to lose the significance of, even though we all know it. The sentiment among American fans is basically that anyone who is anyone should get at least one run with a world title, if not several. Because that's what we've been conditioned to think by WWE. I'm not suggesting that's better or worse, just... really, really different, because the tv/touring model is different, so it should be, and... yeah. It is what it is. Like, Goto, Ishii, MiSu, Shibata are all pretty big stars who I think it's safe to say will never win the belt. (And it's not hard to find a lot of people who wish any number of them would.) Nakamura was a huge deal, but hadn't held it since 2010, and probably wasn't ever going to again. Even among the ascendant stars, there's no one I'm sure is winning it someday. I think Omega will, but it depends how long he sticks around; and in any case, I could see him positioned as the parallel/alternative ace, much as Nakamura himself was. (Albeit more directly targeted towards the Western audience.) Otherwise? I genuinely doubt guys like Ibushi, SANADA (this could look really stupid really soon), EVIL, etc., will ever win the title. It's easy to see Okada having a near monopoly on the belt for the next three years at least. Dude is 30; chances are, the guy who genuinely unseats him is either a Young Lion, or a relatively anonymous student. All of this is to say, Naito winning the title at all, much less a second time--which I do still think will happen, if only for a short run--already puts him in pretty sparse company.
  7. NJPW WrestleKingdom 12 in Tokyo Dome 1/4/2018

    I expected he'd win, and wanted him to, but I'll take a stab at the story they're telling. The idea was essentially that just making it to the main event was the goal that's driven him for years. At WK8, he lost the main event spot, lost the match itself, and even lost himself. So, slowly, he found a new identity, got his revenge on the IC title and Tanahashi himself, became the star he was supposed to be all along, and now took his place in the final match of Wrestle Kingdom. He even told Okada before the match that he'd become the top guy, and in a sense, won already. And that's all well and good, but it left him without the focus he needed to actually beat Okada. In a sense, he forgot himself, trying his old Stardust Press too many times, and playing to the crowd rather than planting Okada with a final Destino. He's climbed the mountain, but needs to get used to the altitude in order to survive and stay there. Narratively, I think @Oyaji makes good points too. Naito's story is the chase; Okada's story is his dominance. The belt is practically part of his entrance ensemble at this point. I think challenging both characters by inverting that dynamic would be really interesting, but I don't think that ship has sailed. After all, if we are to see the Okada/Tanahashi dynamic reflected here, the big win will come a year late--but actually, right on time.
  8. The Cody Rhodes/YB All In Show Thread

    I would hope he has plans in place for something to come up "organically" and wants to avoid presenting it as a show of all dream matches.
  9. RAW is... Huh? - 1/15/2018

    The rain-trigger also isn't part of Omega's regular arsenal--it's mostly, if not exclusively, an Okada-match-specific move--so there wouldn't really be an issue of redundancy. But of course he'd take the match, and so would New Japan, contract or no. Even beyond the obvious fact that WWE is still a way bigger deal, Omega's been really open for years about wanting a more collaborative world, where anyone can basically wrestle anyone. He and the Bucks specifically wanted to do something with the New Day, for instance. I suspect he and Woods having a battle of US Champs using Street Fighter V as a proxy is the closest we get, though.
  10. NJPW WrestleKingdom 12 in Tokyo Dome 1/4/2018

    One other anecdote I forgot to mention from Jericho's podcast with Omega: He mentions Vince's reaction to the 'Alpha vs Omega' tagline being negative, that no one would get it. Which is funny, at first blush, that he can't turn off his promoter's instincts for a match that isn't even his. But it's funnier when Jericho mentions that the Alpha Entertainment news broke shortly after their phone call, and Vince probably just didn't want someone else using the word at the moment. (One other other thing: Omega talks about his v-triggers as affectionately as you'd expect, considering how often and emphatically he deploys them.)
  11. Omega being so openly star obsessed is a bit strange, but the feud began with Jericho specifically lauding his skills as a performer, while claiming that he's a better one. So, Omega attempted to counter the argument he made. Context matters, here. It's also worth noting: People in real sports--soccer, boxing, etc.--brag about the entertainment quality of their winning all the time, so saying you have good matches isn't flagrantly "business exposing" to me.
  12. The Cody Rhodes/YB All In Show Thread

    IMO isn't QED. You had an opinion; people had an opinion about it. You didn't support yours in a way anyone found compelling; they said so. No one is arguing that you have to abandon this opinion, but stating (again and again) that you have it doesn't constitute an argument for it. Since this post can hardly be less productive, here's some silly bait. Danielson vs Scurll confirmed, everyone!
  13. NJPW WrestleKingdom 12 in Tokyo Dome 1/4/2018

    To be fair, they did mention that they wanted him to kinda sorta try to ineffectually enforce the rules, to emphasize how unusual it all was. So if he looked confused at times, you could say he was working. In hindsight--or with reasonable foresight, honestly--this seems like maybe it wasn't the best creative choice. But, they also imply he messed up one or two other things that they just didn't want to specify. (Have to assume the blade fumbling is among them, though Omega is no veteran with that scenario either.)
  14. Puroresu General Discussion for 2018

    Trivia of no consequence at all, but I love it.
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