GuerrillaMonsoon Posted October 28, 2016 Posted October 28, 2016 Oh man, I remember that Aguila/Super Loco match on an episode of RAW in late 97. There was a huge fucking botched spot. Can't remember what, but what Lawler just wet himself laughing about it for the rest of the match.
Peck Posted October 28, 2016 Posted October 28, 2016 Why did Condrey up and leave the Midnight Express in 87? More money from Verne?
Happ Hazzard Posted October 28, 2016 Posted October 28, 2016 35 minutes ago, Peck said: Why did Condrey up and leave the Midnight Express in 87? More money from Verne? Nobody really knows. Various theories include a) a cocaine problem, b) marital problems, c) being pissed at Cornette for turning down a jump for the Midnights to the WWF in 1986. 1
Spritenaut 32 Posted October 28, 2016 Posted October 28, 2016 11 hours ago, Happ Hazzard said: Nobody really knows. Various theories include a) a cocaine problem, b) marital problems, c) being pissed at Cornette for turning down a jump for the Midnights to the WWF in 1986. Cornette and Eaton have said in interviews that they never really got a straight answer from Condrey about why he up and left. He just "went weird" on them (Cornette's words). I tend to think it was a combination of all of the above, with the catalyst being the situation with his ex-wife. Cornette thinks Condrey wanted to drop off the radar for awhile so his wife couldn't find him and collect alimony. How that would work, I dunno. But there'd been problems with Condrey before that due to Condrey's drug use and the WWF thing. I can't imagine the Midnights in 1980's WWF.
sydneybrown Posted October 28, 2016 Posted October 28, 2016 I swear there's an Apter mag out there that backs me up, but the Midnights were apparently about to make the jump in 1989 too. It was during the period where they lost their feud to the SST and then disappeared for a few months only to come back for the tag team tournament.
Wyld Samurai Posted October 28, 2016 Posted October 28, 2016 53 minutes ago, Vader does my taxes! said: Cornette and Eaton have said in interviews that they never really got a straight answer from Condrey about why he up and left. He just "went weird" on them (Cornette's words). I tend to think it was a combination of all of the above, with the catalyst being the situation with his ex-wife. Cornette thinks Condrey wanted to drop off the radar for awhile so his wife couldn't find him and collect alimony. How that would work, I dunno. But there'd been problems with Condrey before that due to Condrey's drug use and the WWF thing. I can't imagine the Midnights in 1980's WWF. The Midnight Express vs Strike Force would have been pretty amazing. 2
Nice Guy Eddie Posted October 28, 2016 Posted October 28, 2016 7 hours ago, Wyld Samurai said: The Midnight Express vs Strike Force would have been pretty amazing. I would have wanted to see the Midnight Express vs. British Bulldogs. 1
Nice Guy Eddie Posted October 28, 2016 Posted October 28, 2016 37 minutes ago, Wyld Samurai said: Even MX vs The Killer B's! or pre-heel turn Rougeau's 1
odessasteps Posted October 29, 2016 Posted October 29, 2016 And Bobby worked v Jacques in Memphis . 1
clintthecrippler Posted October 29, 2016 Posted October 29, 2016 1 hour ago, Nice Guy Eddie said: or pre-heel turn Rougeau's Face Midnights vs heel Rougeaus seems like the better version of this to me personally plus then you get dueling Cornette vs Jimmy Hart promos. 2
Nice Guy Eddie Posted October 29, 2016 Posted October 29, 2016 1 hour ago, clintthecrippler said: Face Midnights vs heel Rougeaus seems like the better version of this to me personally plus then you get dueling Cornette vs Jimmy Hart promos. You're right. Plus, heel Rougeau's means "All American Boys". You can never have enough of one of the greatest entrance themes ever. 5
Happ Hazzard Posted October 29, 2016 Posted October 29, 2016 Midnights in WWF wouldn't have really worked either in 1986 or 1989. They'd have had good matches but wouldn't have got the belts. If they'd come in in 1989 they'd have almost certainly ended up jobbing to the Bushwhackers. Maybe in 1990 you could put them in the same spot the Orient Express got, have them go over the Rockers at WM, feud with them for a while, then feud with the Hart Foundation after they win the belts. There was a shortage of heel teams in 1990 until they turned Demolition heel. They would have ended up having to job to the Bushwhackers and Cornette would have thrown a strop and left to start SMW. But then we wouldn't have got Cornette coming in later in the 90s to manage Yokozuna etc.
sydneybrown Posted October 29, 2016 Posted October 29, 2016 I think the Midnights would have ended up with the BrainBusters spot if the BrainBusters weren't already there. And the Busters jobbed to the Bushwhackers too before winning the titles, so it's not like that was some major depush back then. A Midnight Express/Rockers feud would have been insane fun. Shit a POP/BrainBusters/MNX/Rougeaus/Andre/Haku vs. Demolition/Rockers/Harts/Bushwhackers/Stallions could have rivaled the other tag Survivor Series matches.
PetrolCB Posted October 29, 2016 Posted October 29, 2016 On October 27, 2016 at 9:32 PM, The Green Meanie said: Just for comparison, week one: 1
Infinit Posted October 29, 2016 Posted October 29, 2016 Was Eric Shelley related to Len "Kojak" Shelley?
Wyld Samurai Posted October 29, 2016 Posted October 29, 2016 On 10/27/2016 at 4:56 PM, BEN! said: Man, that WWF Light Heavyweight tournament was just sad with guys like Brian Christopher, Scott Putski, The Fantastics as singles, and a bunch of other guys just thrown out there completely cold. WCW had guys flying around doing crazy shit while WWF was like here's Taka Michinoku and some short guys. The term 'light heavyweight' sounded outdated too. The belt was even sad and cheap looking. Tommy Rogers was pretty damn fantastic in '97.
cwoy2j Posted October 30, 2016 Posted October 30, 2016 15 hours ago, Wyld Samurai said: Tommy Rogers was pretty damn fantastic in '97. Christian and Billy Kidman stole his finisher. 1
Nice Guy Eddie Posted October 30, 2016 Posted October 30, 2016 18 minutes ago, cwoy2j said: Christian and Billy Kidman stole his finisher. Little Guido as well 1
J.H. Posted October 30, 2016 Posted October 30, 2016 The thought of a Hart Foundation/Midnight Express match makes me a little giddy James 5
Guest Edwin Posted October 31, 2016 Posted October 31, 2016 Who was this Eric Shelley from the WWF LHW tournament? What happened with Jerry Lynn that he fell through? Also Flash Flanagan? Really? He seems like an odd choice for that tournament, but then again that entire thing was a disaster. Flanagan was good, but he just didn't fit the mold of what they originally were looking for or what they portrayed they were originally looking for.
twiztor Posted October 31, 2016 Posted October 31, 2016 1 hour ago, Edwin said: What happened with Jerry Lynn that he fell through? Also Flash Flanagan? Really? He seems like an odd choice for that tournament, but then again that entire thing was a disaster. Flanagan was good, but he just didn't fit the mold of what they originally were looking for or what they portrayed they were originally looking for. IIRC, Lynn worked a set of tapings or two after leaving WCW. the WWF didn't offer him a contract, so he bounced to ECW. Then they contacted him about the tournament but he had already signed in Philly. my guess is that they advertised him, assuming he'd be willing to come back again before they called him. as far as Flash? well, someone had to lose to Jerry Lawler's son. i don't remember him having more than 2-3 matches with the WWF anyway.
AxB Posted November 1, 2016 Posted November 1, 2016 Didn't Flash Flanagan try to get in shape for his WWE run? Because a little bit later he showed up in IWA Mid-South and they were calling him Flash Fat Again.
colonial Posted November 1, 2016 Posted November 1, 2016 On 10/31/2016 at 10:48 AM, Edwin said: Who was this Eric Shelley from the WWF LHW tournament? What happened with Jerry Lynn that he fell through? Also Flash Flanagan? Really? He seems like an odd choice for that tournament, but then again that entire thing was a disaster. Flanagan was good, but he just didn't fit the mold of what they originally were looking for or what they portrayed they were originally looking for. Eric Shelley was a Montreal-based worker and the son of Len Shelley, a wrestler and promoter. Given his tournament match with Scott Taylor took place in Cornwall, Ontario, I'm presuming the WWF was looking for a local guy for Taylor to put over. Looking at Cagematch, Flanagan had a couple of matches in the WWF during the Attitude Era. Highlights include a dark match against One Man Gang (who got a tryout in 1998), and a Hardcore title shot against Bob Holly.
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