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30 minutes ago, Greggulator said:

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Are their any good examples of a highly athletic wrestler turned into a Foley-style monster or along those lines? Adapting a character I have who currently wrestles like peak Shelton Benjamin into a representative of the darkside. 

The varsity club is an interesting look there but it was all undertones of cruelty and crazy Kevin Sullivan promos. Wolfie D became Slash but he wasn't exactly an athletic wonder beforehand. Have you ever seen the Satanico promo where he creates Averno and Mephiso?

 

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35 minutes ago, The Natural said:

More people will see this here:

Made BBC News.

I saw a pic of Kobashi collecting tickets on the train. Made me think of the scene from Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade on the blimp. Kobashi chops a passenger out of the train window. "No ticket."

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34 minutes ago, Curt McGirt said:

That was was funnier than the one I posted before. The chop that Kobashi throws sounds ghastly, like someone throwing a pork butt on a cement floor.

Kenta Kobashi has the best chops ever. Honourable mention to Gunther, TAFKA WALTER.

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5 hours ago, Greggulator said:

MAJOR EFED HELP NEEDED

Are their any good examples of a highly athletic wrestler turned into a Foley-style monster or along those lines? Adapting a character I have who currently wrestles like peak Shelton Benjamin into a representative of the darkside. 

First thing that comes to mind is Terry Funk going from scientific NWA champ to hardcore legend

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On 9/20/2023 at 8:03 PM, BrianS81177 said:

It is but man oh man someone needs to keep Eric Darkstorm as far the fuck away from any woman as possible. That dude is a ticking timebomb who is gonna badly hurt a woman one day - if he hasn't already. 

Whoa, I used to wrestle on shows with him in the NWA back in 2001-2002ish.  He worked under a mask as "Rain". 

He was trained by Jamie Noble and Tyson Smith (not Kenny Omega... a dude that worked as Star\Vinny Viagra, that was featured on a reality show about Loss Prevention

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On 9/22/2023 at 10:26 AM, Greggulator said:

MAJOR EFED HELP NEEDED

Are their any good examples of a highly athletic wrestler turned into a Foley-style monster or along those lines? Adapting a character I have who currently wrestles like peak Shelton Benjamin into a representative of the darkside. 

Dewey Robertson becoming The Missing Link?

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Onita went from being a pretty normal jr heavyweight to the deathmatch king.  I don't know that I'd characterize him as a monster, though.

Matsunaga was an Aoyagi karate guy before he became Mr Danger.

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4 hours ago, Zimbra said:

Onita went from being a pretty normal jr heavyweight to the deathmatch king.  I don't know that I'd characterize him as a monster, though.

Matsunaga was an Aoyagi karate guy before he became Mr Danger.

Isn't Minoru Fujita nowadays a deathmatch guy? That would fall into the same category.

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Watching that Superstars episode where Justin Hawk Bradshaw beats down Hakushi, and brands him, then the week after JR announces he left the WWF out of shame.

There can't be too many instances where the 'F/E have announced a guy leaving of their own volition? Vince's tribute to Savage on Raw in 1994 was one. I guess they sort of allude to Bret at Montreal on commentary during/before the match. 

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On 9/22/2023 at 7:26 AM, Greggulator said:

MAJOR EFED HELP NEEDED

Are their any good examples of a highly athletic wrestler turned into a Foley-style monster or along those lines? Adapting a character I have who currently wrestles like peak Shelton Benjamin into a representative of the darkside. 

Assuming you aren't referring to gimmick changes? Like Cpl. Kirchner becoming Leatherface?

Al Snow? He wasn't really a monster but he went from being a scientific grappler to a nutjob that hits guys with cookie sheets and talks to a plastic head.

Sal Bellomo went from smiling babyface jobber in the WWF to long haired, bushy bearded wildman brawler in ECW.

*edit* I missed the "athletic" part. Kirchner and Bellomo were never athletic lol.

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Odd trivia that popped into my head and I'm trying to answer while sick and unable to fall asleep: how many guys appeared on a WWE, WCW and ECW (not WWECW) PPV and did anyone appear on all those and a TNA and AEW PPV? First one I came up with Terry Funk, Rick Rude, Shane Douglas, Sabu, Dusty Rhodes, Raven and Candido (and the latter five were on TNA shows) and Sabu is the only one I can think of off the top of my head to have been on all 5.

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5 hours ago, sabremike said:

Odd trivia that popped into my head and I'm trying to answer while sick and unable to fall asleep: how many guys appeared on a WWE, WCW and ECW (not WWECW) PPV and did anyone appear on all those and a TNA and AEW PPV? First one I came up with Terry Funk, Rick Rude, Shane Douglas, Sabu, Dusty Rhodes, Raven and Candido (and the latter five were on TNA shows) and Sabu is the only one I can think of off the top of my head to have been on all 5.

Jerry Lynn and Jake Roberts are 2 others that hit all 5.

 

Sandman and Mike Awesome did the first 4 but not AEW.

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We did this a couple years ago almost. Unfortunately, there is such a gap between the end of ECW and WCW and the creation of AEW. You have weird anomalies like Sting still being active means someone who worked in Mid-South/UWF is still active on national TV. Jeff Jarrett still wrestling means you have someone who would have worked Memphis (Sting also did as well FWIW) and the combined Dallas/Jerry Jarrett office is still active on national TV. However, both never worked for ECW.

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47 minutes ago, Curt McGirt said:

Man, Jeff Jarrett would have been a primo heel to the mutants.

In my 1994 rewatch, I am a little over couple months away from the RAW taping in Liberty, NY (at a high school gym that's smaller than some of the venues ECW was running). It's the Christmas season so Jeff is wearing tinsel attached to the straps on his wrestling gear. You want to wish all the harm in the world on him. FWIW he's also wearing similar gear to what Dreamer had on. They (ECW fans) fucking hated Dreamer in 1994.

I believe this is right about the time he got the Roadie, which is also crazy cause he's still doing tag matches with his brothers on WCW TV where I am at on my rewatch.

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