EVA Posted July 9, 2023 Share Posted July 9, 2023 (edited) My favorite part of FTR/BCG was the business with the Muta Lock. Jay spits in Dax’s face so he comes in and petulantly stomps Jay to break the hold, even though it’s not a very babyface thing to do, then when he tries to just walk away, Jay pursues him to the outside and kicks his ass for a few seconds before coming back to work on Cash. It all felt very spontaneous and genuine. Edited July 9, 2023 by EVA 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StuntmanCrowley Posted July 9, 2023 Share Posted July 9, 2023 I knew next to nothing about Juice Robinson before this AEW run. He is f'n awesome. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firebreaker Chip Posted July 9, 2023 Share Posted July 9, 2023 (edited) Collision reminds me of peak NXT a little, kind of a hybrid of the weekly TV and the specials. Five matches with emphasis on storytelling and a clear sense of which matches are "featured", brisk pace with a focus on the in-ring, old school flourishes and tournaments in honour of departed legends, lots of wrestlers who were actually in NXT when it was good, commentator who doesn't know how to pronounce "coup de grace", etc etc Also maybe something about a smallish roster of heavily featured talent who work together in slightly varying configurations but get good results from it Anyway, interesting to see the Regina crowd was purely pro-Punk, they were eating up everything in a way that added to the show and deserved the good matches they got, despite the raised eyebrows about burning Joe-Punk "IV" there imo! Edited July 9, 2023 by Firebreaker Chip 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey Posted July 9, 2023 Share Posted July 9, 2023 Canada has been very pro-Punk except the Toronto run. I think the predictions of how negatively he’d be received outside of Chicago have been pretty exaggerated, mainly by anti-Punk fans. I’m interested to see the rating for this show since he was advertised in a match versus last week being 1) taped for a holiday weekend and 2) being advertised for commentary and that’s it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolphman 3000 Posted July 9, 2023 Share Posted July 9, 2023 3 hours ago, chriskbrown50 said: For the first time last night I noticed Collision has a decidedly different feel to it. More focused. Smaller roster feel, almost old school territory. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted July 9, 2023 Share Posted July 9, 2023 1 hour ago, Casey said: Canada has been very pro-Punk except the Toronto run. I think the predictions of how negatively he’d be received outside of Chicago have been pretty exaggerated, mainly by anti-Punk fans. I’m interested to see the rating for this show since he was advertised in a match versus last week being 1) taped for a holiday weekend and 2) being advertised for commentary and that’s it. Our circles really built up Punk vs Joe IV as a big deal. I’m curious if that translated into numbers. If not, they probably need to pull the trigger on an angle as just “a great wrestling show” has a ceiling. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Bones Posted July 10, 2023 Share Posted July 10, 2023 I’m in on the notion of this episode having a Takeover feel. It’s no coincidence that there was yet another stellar Revival match on the show and a main event with a betrayal angle tacked on at the end. Yep sounds like NXT to me. Don’t mind if I just go ahead and agree with myself. I liked Punk/Joe a lot more than I thought I would. I kind of was betting on one of them getting hurt early and fucking everything up. Nice lil Owen roll to get the win. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Go2Sleep Posted July 10, 2023 Share Posted July 10, 2023 Starks/Hobbs was the worst match I've seen featured on AEW TV in some time. The timing was off on everything and it felt like they couldn't get on the same page with each other, let alone the spots where QT had to get involved. Both guys are obviously better than that and everyone's gonna have an off night once in a while, but it was pretty jarring from a company where the in-ring action is pretty much always smooth start to finish with lots of high degree of difficulty spots. I do like the slightly different presentation to the show. I don't mind the "split" aspect in the sense that certain feuds happen on Dynamite and others happen on Collision. It does make it easier to watch both shows when you see entirely different wrestlers. I hope they'll get some rotation where some weeks Punk/Joe can have a segment on Dynamite and Elite/BCC can do something Collision, or whatever their next feuds are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted July 10, 2023 Share Posted July 10, 2023 12 hours ago, Brandon Bones said: I’m in on the notion of this episode having a Takeover feel. And on paper they’re going bigger next Saturday. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Log Posted July 10, 2023 Share Posted July 10, 2023 I got tickets for me and the boy to go to Collision in Lexington on Aug 19. Dear TK, please have some huge stuff that week. Thanks! 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig H Posted July 10, 2023 Share Posted July 10, 2023 Not the fault of Joe or Punk, but I still haven't been able to watch their match in full. When I tried watching it Saturday night and this would be around midnight, I kept falling asleep when it would get to Joe vs Punk. I probably started watching it just after 1 am, fell asleep, woke up, it was then 2:30 am, went back to that match, fell asleep again, woke up and it was 5 am, and finally said fuck it and went to sleep in bed instead of falling asleep on the couch. Everything else was great though. Whoever said that FTR vs BCG tricked them with the type of the match they were having got it correct. It started out like you would think a 12 to 15 minute match would go and then it just kept going through 2 commercial breaks. I thought for a second they were going to go to a time limit draw. Really outstanding match and the last few weeks of Collision have made me change my tune on Juice. Him being a hype man, rabid dog for the calmer, more menacing Jay White works perfectly. I'm still a little surprised it's Jay and Juice going after the tag titles and not the Golden Gunns. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted July 10, 2023 Share Posted July 10, 2023 1 hour ago, Log said: I got tickets for me and the boy to go to Collision in Lexington on Aug 19. Dear TK, please have some huge stuff that week. Thanks! Fingers crossed for you and your son, matey xxx. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Log Posted July 10, 2023 Share Posted July 10, 2023 2 hours ago, Craig H said: Not the fault of Joe or Punk, but I still haven't been able to watch their match in full. When I tried watching it Saturday night and this would be around midnight, I kept falling asleep when it would get to Joe vs Punk. I probably started watching it just after 1 am, fell asleep, woke up, it was then 2:30 am, went back to that match, fell asleep again, woke up and it was 5 am, and finally said fuck it and went to sleep in bed instead of falling asleep on the couch. Everything else was great though. Whoever said that FTR vs BCG tricked them with the type of the match they were having got it correct. It started out like you would think a 12 to 15 minute match would go and then it just kept going through 2 commercial breaks. I thought for a second they were going to go to a time limit draw. Really outstanding match and the last few weeks of Collision have made me change my tune on Juice. Him being a hype man, rabid dog for the calmer, more menacing Jay White works perfectly. I'm still a little surprised it's Jay and Juice going after the tag titles and not the Golden Gunns. I kept dozing off during the tag match. Also not the match's fault. I was so confused when I'd go in and out of consciousness and they were still going. I came to for the Punk/Joe match. Cash's selling when he ran down for the save had me wondering if he'd been legit injured in the tag match. That, and the fact that every time I'd come back in, it was Dax and Jay White in the ring. I had no concept of how long the match had gone on, but it felt like Dax and White were in there for like 20 minutes alone. I swear I was totally sober for all of that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrianS81177 Posted July 10, 2023 Share Posted July 10, 2023 In the promo afterwards didn't Dax say something about having a surprise for BCG next week? Bret Hart maybe? They're gonna be in Calgary right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Log Posted July 10, 2023 Share Posted July 10, 2023 22 minutes ago, BrianS81177 said: In the promo afterwards didn't Dax say something about having a surprise for BCG next week? Bret Hart maybe? They're gonna be in Calgary right? Isn't Bret back on a WWE Legends deal? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolphman 3000 Posted July 10, 2023 Share Posted July 10, 2023 20 minutes ago, BrianS81177 said: In the promo afterwards didn't Dax say something about having a surprise for BCG next week? Bret Hart maybe? They're gonna be in Calgary right? Harry Smith would be a nice surprise, and then you can set up Harry for a match at Wembley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EVA Posted July 10, 2023 Share Posted July 10, 2023 Or, and hear me out on this, you could simply not use Davy Boy Jr. 4 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolphman 3000 Posted July 10, 2023 Share Posted July 10, 2023 28 minutes ago, EVA said: Or, and hear me out on this, you could simply not use Davy Boy Jr. David Hart Smith gonna beat Cody for the title in Wembley for WrestleMania 41 and y'all are gonna feel real dumb 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt McGirt Posted July 10, 2023 Share Posted July 10, 2023 Yeah Davey Boy Jr... just, no. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramo2653 Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 I must have missed something with him if there's enough of ya'll saying a hard no. Did he do or say something stupid? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infinit Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 Collision is such a great pro wrestling show. The promos before the opening! The commentary is different vibe from what we've got from AEW to this point. In ring has been fantastic, I got to see episodes 2 and 3 live and had a blast. Not saying that it's better than Dynamite, just alot of different notes that make it fresh. We are going to be spoiled with the Calgary and Boston shows happening 4 days apart. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peck Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 50 minutes ago, Ramo2653 said: I must have missed something with him if there's enough of ya'll saying a hard no. Did he do or say something stupid? I just think he's pretty bland. YMMV, though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrianS81177 Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 On 7/10/2023 at 11:48 AM, Log said: Isn't Bret back on a WWE Legends deal? Dunno, but when I googled to find out I saw an article from a few days ago that said he's cancelled all upcoming appearances per doctor's orders. Also his middle name is Sergeant. I never knew that. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zakk_Sabbath Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 2 hours ago, BrianS81177 said: Dunno, but when I googled to find out I saw an article from a few days ago that said he's cancelled all upcoming appearances per doctor's orders. Also his middle name is Sergeant. I never knew that. Damn, I really hope it's nothing serious. Positive vibes up for the GOAT. Also: I wasn't able to go due to a wedding (and I'm still furious) but Bret managed FTR at an indy show in the lobby of Lowell, MA's city hall against Pillman Jr. and Brock Anderson (with Arn managing them) with the reason being that he apparently couldn't appear on AEW TV with them due to his Legends deal (which I'm guessing he wasn't on at the time he presented the title at the first DoN, though I know he was a last minute replacement for Flair). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbarrie Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 Not nearly enough talk about the Big News from Saturday: they've changed the rules for Eliminator matches so that the term now makes a modicum of sense! The would-be challenger is now eliminated from title contention if they lose! Booking-wise, this seems questionable to me. But nomenclature-wise it's a big win. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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