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Casey

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Parker Bordeaux being in a group with Swerve makes sense. Like Swerve, he has legit connections outside of pro wrestling and for some reason he’s really popular on Instagram with street fashion influencers and shit. Dude has over a million followers, it’s wild.

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Gordi the former AEW fan

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46 minutes ago, Dolphman 3000 said:

lmao

Yeah, for sure!

When was the last time JERICHO put someone over.

lmfao

As if JERICHO would ever put a younger wrestler over clean in the middle of the ring. Can even one person remember a single example of that happening recently? Don't think so!

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I still think the way to go was beating, week to week, Parker, Menard, Garcia, Hager, Sammy and then doing Jericho at the end, ideally at Revolution but it would have depended on the timing, but give Starks win after win and a clean win in the end (with beatdowns or other things like another debate or whatever in between, sure). Instead they're going right to Jericho vs Starks. Ah well. Let's see how it goes.

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The Three Hundred Thousand Dollar Three Kings Christmas Casino Trios Royale is my new favorite gimmick match name. 

Starks/Jericho opening was great follow up from last week and nice set up for the future. 

Trios series was an awesome Christmas Deathmatch. Nice to see Exodus Prime again, and even more Vertvixen announced for Rampage, I love these Texas loops.

Big win for the Gunns as the Downfall of FTR continues. Next week the AAA tags, then the next week the IWGP.

Rick Ross always rules. Parker Boudreaux felt random but I dug the kind of old school feel of a seemingly complete unknown showing up with them and no one having any clue who it is. Definitely hope Keith is bringing Shane and JD in for this.

Main event was absolutely amazing. Love seeing Shida back in the top mix like this. Even with a fairly obvious outcome being Jamie's first defense, I loved how insanely hot the crowd got for this. Whole finishing stretch was excellent.

 

 

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Cobra Commander

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56 minutes ago, Gordlow said:

Yeah, for sure!

When was the last time JERICHO put someone over.

lmfao

As if JERICHO would ever put a younger wrestler over clean in the middle of the ring. Can even one person remember a single example of that happening recently? Don't think so!

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I think the main problem with being in the orbit of Jericho (either in a feud or being aligned with him) is that feuding with Jericho goes on forever and being aligned with him doesn't seem to actually get guys over. Did someone like MJF really emerge better off for having had a 6 month long feud with Chris Jericho?

then again, if you make two lists, I think the AEW face side is a bit deeper than the AEW heel side. It would be a little different they had a certain person around possibly as a heel instead of having him get injured and erased from history after All-Out.

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Gordi the former AEW fan

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5 minutes ago, Cobra Commander said:

I think the main problem with being in the orbit of Jericho (either in a feud or being aligned with him) is that feuding with Jericho goes on forever and being aligned with him doesn't seem to actually get guys over. Did someone like MJF really emerge better off for having had a 6 month long feud with Chris Jericho?

then again, if you make two lists, I think the AEW face side is a bit deeper than the AEW heel side. It would be a little different they had a certain person around possibly as a heel instead of having him get injured and erased from history after All-Out.

I think if you are looking for examples of wrestlers who didn't get over and have not moved up the roster, you might not want to point at THE CURRENT WORLD HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPION, but maybe that just me 😀

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John from Cincinnati

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6 minutes ago, Gordlow said:

I think if you are looking for examples of wrestlers who didn't get over and have not moved up the roster, you might not want to point at THE CURRENT WORLD HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPION, but maybe that just me 😀

The trick here is to credit MJF with getting over in spite of Jericho and say that Punk’s the one who really helped him in that way. Keep up. 

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Cobra Commander

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23 minutes ago, Gordlow said:

I think if you are looking for examples of wrestlers who didn't get over and have not moved up the roster, you might not want to point at THE CURRENT WORLD HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPION, but maybe that just me 😀

The AEW title scene wasn't exactly the cumulation of some well orchestrated plan during the year 2022. We can guess among ourselves if a healthy Punk would have dropped the belt to MJF this year but there's several points where something happened with that title to set all the short-term plans on fire.

Fortunately MJF can just sorta chill out for 2 1/2 months until the world is ready for MJF/Punk stuff. So that's helpful for him.

I didn't mention Kingston because i'm sure the reason Kingston didn't make it out of Jericho feud just fine involves other backstage things. Or mentioned Sammy sorta moving back to where he was before quickly because Sammy is part of both Kingston's situation and Sammy's situation. Guess we'll see how the Daniel Garcia turn works itself out since we might just get that soon enough.

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Casey

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I’m at the Mox match right now and it dawns on me that for all of the talk that the Elite are the embodiment of AEW… I think Mox might be. It would be a very different show and company if he ever left. For as many different things that Punk brought to the AEW style, and FTR for what it’s worth… Mox since the beginning has been THAT GUY.

Jericho too, for that matter. There’s a reason that he and Mox have been given larger roles amongst the locker room. I mean, Saraya has gone on record saying she’s working with Mox on her promos (and Renee too, actually).

EDIT: this main event is fucking insane, Jamie Hayter is amazing. Credit to Shida, too.

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I am totally cool with the building up of the Ass Boys as a top unit.  Not sure how I feel about it being at the expense of FTR.  There is such a huge divide between what the crowds want for FTR and what booking gives them, but I will stick with the story to see where it goes.  Every team hits a rough patch now and then and we shall see if FTR can regroup from back-to-back losses, one of which cost them the RoH Tag Team Championship.

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Matt D

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  • Opening promo with Starks was more or less what he needed. I missed 2019 and 2020 and the first half of 2021 so I don't have the same negative towards Jericho feuds as others do. I've only seen him gobble up someone once or twice. He's very well aware of the criticism now though, so we'll see what happens.

  • Match 6 of 9: Jumbo Tsuruta vs Nick Bockwinkel AJPW 2/23/84: I hate to say it but I wasn't feeling this one quite as much. It's a shame beacuse it's the end of a big journey for Jumbo and Terry Funk is the special ref. It even starts brilliantly with Bock rushing in for a cross body right at the bell. I love his entry point gameplans. He got a major early advantage from that and the next fifteen (!) minutes or so was him controlling the arm, and honestly, I wish it was better. Bock did his job, really working it, at times working it almost too much to keep the crowd in it, just huge flailing motions while keeping technique and switching it up again and again, one hold after the next. Jumbo seemed weirdly listless though. I could hardly tell this was the same guy who was doing such gritty working from underneath in the previous years. I just don't really get it given the setting; my only guess, other than him just feeling sluggish for some reason like sickness, was that he knew he was winning the title and he wanted to look at strong as possible. He did sell towards the end of it, but mostly when he was out of a hold and trying to take over.

    Ultimately (after a tease with the jumping knee), Jumbo fought into a front face lock and after he couldn't get the double underhook suplex, he hit two pile drivers and they were on. It was fairly back and forth from there, with a big feel to it, inside and outside of the ring. Jumbo pressed an advantage with a beautiful double underhook (when he actually hit it) and gutwrench suplex. Bock got a knee up on a corner charge and landed a pile driver of his own. Jumbo dodged a corner charge and dug in on a crab. Funk was really a non factor for most of the match, a shame considering how he could have helped those first 15-20 minutes sing, but I liked him a lot during the crab, explaining the stakes to Bock but that he could quit. Bock's full body selling was at play here, the best ever. The way his arm flailed about as Jumbo was positioning him for the gutwrench was just so, so good. No one better. Bock took back over and knocked Jumbo into Funk, both of them sailing out of the ring. There was a second ref though. Bock continued to press, slamming Jumbo from the outside in repeatedly. Jumbo finally floated over (beautifully, might I add) and hit a belly to back with a bridge as Funk slid back in for the ironclad win. It was a great moment, but it wasn't as great of a match as the ones that preceeded it. I'm not sure if they were under a certain directive to do things a certain way. I know that Funk didn't want to take attention off of them but Funk, being Funk, always makes things better. While Jumbo was fiery at certain moments, and while the crowd went absolutely nuts for the win, he was neither what he had been against Bock previously or what he would be (a vicious gladiator) in the years to come. This is not the best match in the series.

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  • Mox vs Darius was ok. I was looking for fire out of Darius and I got some of it at least. Not as much as I wanted. He pressed up against the crucible that was Mox and it wasn't quite there yet. The company badly needs a heel turn out of Danielson, Moxley, or Adam Page.
  • FTR vs Gunns I liked. They're leaning hard into the Dax injury as they should. I liked that they didn't come out and just wrestle but Cash was out there to humiliate them and punish them. Dax has had a hell of a year and hits harder and lands stuff sharper than Cash, probably, but I came into 2021 thinking Cash was better for his presence and his little bits of character/reactions that he tossed in and they were definitely at play here. I'm curious where this is going. I know where I want it to go.
  • Not much to say about the Rick Ross stuff. I watched it at 2x speed. Other tattoo guy is a former baseball player and Jim Ross is going to be insufferable whenever he's on screen.
  • Main event was great, obviously. Super hard hitting. Every Shida knee was nuts. I loved Hayter during the first commercial break, just kissing the belt and sitting in the chair and doing lunges. Just so alive and vivid in the moment and living in the match. I liked the parallels (suplexes into the corner) and how earned certain moves were. There was a real sense of struggle and consequence here amidst the bombs, like how it took three clotheline variations for Hayter to finally hit the lariat. There was a real AJPW (even though Hayter invoked AJW) sense of the finish where Shida endured but was then so vulnerable she couldn't stop the final ripcord lariat. Just exceptional talents these two.
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DEAN

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6 minutes ago, Matt D said:
  • There was a real AJPW (even though Hayter invoked AJW) sense of the finish where Shida endured but was then so vulnerable she couldn't stop the final ripcord lariat. Just exceptional talents these two.

Yeah, this was definitely Aja Kong vs Dynamite Kansai than Manami Toyota vs Kyoko Inoue.  This was more like a Lioness Asuka vs Kyoko Inoue in J'd match.  Oh man, Jamie Hayter is the new Lioness Asuka.

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3 hours ago, J.T. said:

I am totally cool with the building up of the Ass Boys as a top unit.  Not sure how I feel about it being at the expense of FTR. 

I don't think it hurt FTR much, if at all. They did a great job of conveying that they weren't anywhere near 100% after the Briscoes match.

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7 minutes ago, w. josh said:

Parker Boudreaux doesn't seem to get pro wrestling at all and I'll be glad when he gives up and finds his true calling, playing methhead Nazi goons in FX TV shows. 

I don't have much knowledge about him, but last night was one of the first times I've ever been watching wrestling and was taken aback with how bad someone's strikes looked.  His looks absolutely horrific.

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