November 2024 Wrestling Discussion

[DreamBroken]

7 hours ago, Brandon-E said:

Can you see an argument for 2014 being TNA's worst year?

Can definitely see the argument. It's a year right in the middle of (IMO) 2 of TNA's peak years, coming down from the high of 2012 and before the next high of 2016. There were some off the wall things like being the year they did Bound for Glory taped from Japan but it did have some highlights, I personally enjoyed the Hardys vs Dudleys vs Wolves series. 

I'm not sure which year I'd say is TNA's best. I know a lot of people pick 2005. My personal favorites are 2012, 2016, 2018, and maybe 2009.

As for Mr. Anderson/Kennedy, I thought he was initially terrible in WWE but started improving towards the end, then really found himself in TNA 2010-2011 which I'd say was his best run by far. Short peak but for that brief time he got super over as a babyface before inevitably turning again. 

[zendragon]

12 hours ago, odessasteps said:

 

Nothing more terrifying than a trip to the local white castle!

 

9 hours ago, Brandon-E said:

Can you see an argument for 2014 being TNA's worst year?

what stands out about 2014?

[Cobra Commander]

35 minutes of Survivor Series team promos? the Vault YouTube continues being a haven of sickos

[BobbyWhioux]

1 hour ago, Cobra Commander said:

35 minutes of Survivor Series team promos? the Vault YouTube continues being a haven of sickos

Praise to the 80’s Survivor Series teams dedicated to keeping the kids off drugs by doing all the drugs first before the kids had a chance to do any

It’s amazing there was any coke left after that Warrior Neidhart Rockers team in 89

[Cobra Commander]

if they had flipped Bret and Neidhart in 89, I don't think the team of Duggan, Neidhart, Garvin and Hercules would have been especially good, but at least the Warrior, Bret, Rockers team would have been a historical oddity

obviously they tipped their hand with Bret doing 19 minutes and Neidhart going 3 minutes on that night

Also... man that Piper/Snuka/Bushwhackers team is something..

[Shartnado]

59 minutes ago, BobbyWhioux said:

It’s amazing there was any coke left after that Warrior Neidhart Rockers team in 89

For a while there, it did run out. That's why Heenan was subbing for Tully! Same year, a team of Piper, Snuka and Bushwhackers sure did their share of helping to rid the planet of cocaine that night!

[Octopus]

Derp. 5 Fives!

 

Top 5 - Five favorite wrestlers

Mount Rushmore - Four historic/ important wrestling figures.

The Magi - Three favorite/ important touring wrestlers who were important in a country they weren’t born from. 

Magic & Bird - Best rivalry between 2 workers.

GOAT - One to rule them All!!!

 

You can’t use the same worker in multiple spots. @Dolfan in NYC will ban you if you use the same name twice. I don’t write the rules.

[Technico Support]

1 hour ago, Cobra Commander said:

Piper/Snuka/Bushwhackers team

Snuka teaming with Piper is up there with Steamboat teaming with both Jake and Savage on my “what the fuck is this bullshit!?” scale.

[Nice Guy Eddie]

7 minutes ago, Technico Support said:

Snuka teaming with Piper is up there with Steamboat teaming with both Jake and Savage on my “what the fuck is this bullshit!?” scale.

Cocaine brings people together. 

[Shartnado]

7 minutes ago, Technico Support said:

Snuka teaming with Piper is up there with Steamboat teaming with both Jake and Savage on my “what the fuck is this bullshit!?” scale.

@Nice Guy Eddie 's legendary sig tells you the answer to all these mystifying team-ups! The love of cocaine is a hell of a drug, apparently!

As the man himself just said!

Edited November 11, 2024 by Shartnado
too slow!

[Cobra Commander]

7 minutes ago, Technico Support said:

Snuka teaming with Piper is up there with Steamboat teaming with both Jake and Savage on my “what the fuck is this bullshit!?” scale.

the only time that Snuka and Piper teamed up until WrestleReunion in 2005, which had a Snuka/Piper/Jimmy Valiant vs Bob Orton Jr/Buddy Rose/Col DeBeers match which presumably was "winner gets a cocaine baggie"

same show that gave us America's Most Wanted vs Dory and Terry Funk, RNR and Fantastics vs Lane/Eaton/Condrey, Christopher Daniels vs Pat Tanaka, Jeff Jarrett vs Tully Blanchard and Dusty/Dustin/Mike Graham vs CM Punk/Kevin Sullivan/Abby. No way in hell this card didn't lose money.

[SirSmUgly]

3 hours ago, Cobra Commander said:

35 minutes of Survivor Series team promos? the Vault YouTube continues being a haven of sickos

Gonna go through every minute just to see if the (IIRC) Survivor Series promo where Andre cribs his I AM THE DREAD PIRATE ROBERTS line from The Princess Bride in the context of threatening Hulk Hogan.

I think it was a SurSer promo, and if so, it has to be my favorite one from that era of the show.

[Ramo2653]

23 hours ago, Brandon-E said:

Can you see an argument for 2014 being TNA's worst year?

I had to double check and see when I started watching TNA and it was in 2015 so I can't comment. I do remember 2016 being good though.

[assfax]

Rushmore is
Thesz
Rikidozan
Santo
Gotch

Magi
Destroyer
Hansen
Muta

Magic Bird
Kawada/Misawa

5 faves
Hitman
DiBiase
Jake Roberts
Devil Masami
Kobashi

GOAT is
ANDRE

 

[bobholly138]

Thought I posted this back over a week ago

Nov 2nd Bayou Indie Wrestling Brookhaven MS

 

Oh man finally a show where I know I will be home by midnight. Meant to sleep in. Woke up at 6am....

 

Now days before this myself and one of the BTS guys had words. Been building for 2 years. Lots got tired of who I will just call Dumbass,getting in free getting his dad in ffree then doing no work. I pay  5 for a ticket and 5 for my father's ticket. Then show up hours early sling chairs. Set up the locker room and then put all the chairs up after the show. So let Dumbass know how I felt. 

Get to venue at 2pm. Ring is there but the rodeo area out back is packed so instead of parking in the back and hauling my stuff a short distance,we gotta park up in the front and walk a bit. Cool it's the cheat day on  my diet so more walking means more calories burnt off.

Walk in see they got the corner posts up. Set up my table and get started on chairs. Put out 350 inn the main room and then put 12 in the locker room.

Time to set up tables. Put out 15 tables with 2 chairs at each. By now all the wrestlers are sshowing up. It is a inside joke that Vladimir Koloff owes me a can of Coke. I was over talking to him and Lucy Blade about the show the night before,Rey Fury walks over "Hey gonna go get my kids lunch yall want anything?" Pull out my wallet hand Rey a $5 "Yea if you hit Mcdonalds or Burger king LARGE frozen Coke" He looks at me "Ya fucking with me right?" Since I'm standing there talking to Koloff.

Rey heads out to get food. More people show up. Since all the stuff is set up time to go take a smoke break and lean on the ring truck,which is covered with DARE stickers. 

Get back inside Rey is back with my frozen Coke. Now time to just chill. Most of the talk was various folks asking what was the final straw with Dumbass. So I showed them the screen shots. 
No one expects him to show up. 6pm Dad shows up,he watches my table as I film. And by now I have already made decent money. 

Seems most of the indie wrestlers in my area collection wrestling figures. So that case of AEW figures I bought at Dirt CHeap for 2 bucks a figure sold well.

About to sit down and rest some before doors open and a buddy ccomes in "Heey Dumbass just showed up. I think he is scared he got his dad and MOM with him." Now Dumbasses dad will come to shows often the mom never does. 

I had let everyone know I would be civil. Dumbass walks in goes sets up his tripod on the stage and stayes there most of the show,In my message to him telling  him to kick rocks I stated many times how he does nothing at shows. 

Doors open and it is aa flood of people. Those 350 chairs filled up.

First match was Rey Fury vs Koloff. Crowd was behind Rey. 

Even the match we all thought would suck was fun. A three way between 3 BIW vets. Best part is APoc Adam Asher was down in the corner. Nightmare Jeremiah rushes over there and starts doing pushups on top Apoc. The other guy in the match "Stanky" Frankie Thomas comes over and Nightmare yells "DONT MESS WITH ME IM DOING PUSHUPS". Later on Nightmare ended in the corner Apoc attempted to do push ups on top of Nightmare. I had seen Apoc trying to not laugh,learned as he was doing them Nightmare was telling him "your push ups SUCK"

Intermission hits,I am at the table and shocked I see Dumbass leave the stage and heading my way I think. Was ready to remind him what I had said in the 22 paragraphs I sent. Nope he stops at Koloff's table to make sure Koloff knew he had filmed his match,Guessing Dumbass doesn't realize Koloff brings a trainee with him every show to film his match.

The main event was BIW Southern Heavyweight champion Bam Bam Malone,TX based guy, vs former MLW World Champion Alex Kane.

Talked to Kane a bit before the show,learned his MLW contract is up soon. Nice dude asked how many locally would know him. "Dude when you came in the ring crew askeed Who is the muscled up Kevin Hart look alike. So I doubt more than 8 people will know ya" Damn good match Bam Bam wins to send the crowd home happy.

Now anyone that worked an indie show knows after the show is when help is needed. I had mentioned this to Dumbass,cause normally he will stand around watching everyone work after the show. Figured he got the message.

Nope main event ends,he packs his stuff and hauls ass out the back door with his parents.

So hour later chairs are put up,tables are put up and the ring is being loaded. Said my good byes and headed home.

Good show. Filmed every match and made a decent profit. 

[Curt McGirt]

3 hours ago, assfax said:

Rushmore is
Thesz
Rikidozan
Santo
Gotch

Magi
Destroyer
Andre
Misterio Jr.

Magic Bird
Santito/Casas

5 faves
Hansen
Murdoch
Aja
Foley
Tenryu

GOAT is
TERRY

Twisted to my approval. Thank you for completely and totally nailing Rushmore. 

EDIT: I would like to add a category and that is WRESTLER YOU WANT/WE NEED MORE FOOTAGE OF. This came up due to an earlier conversation with some friends about never having seen a Hurican Ramirez or Blue Demon Sr. match. Anyway, that answer for me is Johnny Valentine.

Edited November 12, 2024 by Curt McGirt

[Curt McGirt]

There are a couple substitutions that could be made. Abdullah could maybe go in Magi. Flair could MAYBE take over Thesz. But I wouldn't do that. And somehow Vader, Takayama (who I originally had in Tenryu's place), or somebody like... fuck... Mocho Cota didn't make the 5 Faves list. But que sera, sera. 

Hell, I didn't even put in Kawada.

Edited November 12, 2024 by Curt McGirt

[NikoBaltimore]

19 hours ago, Octopus said:

Derp. 5 Fives!

 

Top 5 - Five favorite wrestlers

Mount Rushmore - Four historic/ important wrestling figures.

The Magi - Three favorite/ important touring wrestlers who were important in a country they weren’t born from. 

Magic & Bird - Best rivalry between 2 workers.

GOAT - One to rule them All!!!

 

You can’t use the same worker in multiple spots. @Dolfan in NYC will ban you if you use the same name twice. I don’t write the rules.

Well, since this is all subjective why not.

Top 5/Who I'm digging at the moment-Beast Mortos, Brody King, Mark Briscoe, Shelton Benjamin, Orange Cassidy

Mount Rushmore-Eddie Guerrero, Bret, Savage, Austin

The Magi-Abdullah, Terry Funk (would have otherwise been in Rushmore), Hansen

Magic & Bird-Kevin Steen vs El Generico

GOAT-Danielson

I bet other names will pop up that make me go "Fuck, I forgot him!" but that's who's on the mind at the moment.

[The Natural]

19 hours ago, Octopus said:

Derp. 5 Fives!

 

Top 5 - Five favorite wrestlers

Mount Rushmore - Four historic/ important wrestling figures.

The Magi - Three favorite/ important touring wrestlers who were important in a country they weren’t born from. 

Magic & Bird - Best rivalry between 2 workers.

GOAT - One to rule them All!!!

 

You can’t use the same worker in multiple spots. @Dolfan in NYC will ban you if you use the same name twice. I don’t write the rules.

I'll get back to you, bud.

[twiztor]

19 hours ago, Octopus said:

Derp. 5 Fives!

TOP 5 (alphabetical order):
Bryan Danielson
Eddie Guerrero
Kanyon
Samoa Joe
Ultimo Dragon

MOUNT RUSHMORE (i'm choosing to read this as non-wrestlers):
Bobby Heenan
Paul Heyman
Jim Johnston
Jim Ross

THE MAGI:
Rey Mysterio, Jr. (technically born in San Diego, but i'm counting it anyway)
Dynamite Kid
Great Muta

MAGIC & BIRD:
Shawn Michaels vs. Bret Hart

GOAT:
"Macho Man" Randy Savage

 

and a couple of my own:

FAVORITE JOB GUY/ENHANCEMENT TALENT:
Jim Powers

TAG TEAM OR TRIO OF UNDERECOGNIZED GREATNESS:
Faces of Fear

[The Natural]

21 hours ago, Octopus said:

Derp. 5 Fives!

 

Top 5 - Five favorite wrestlers

Mount Rushmore - Four historic/ important wrestling figures.

The Magi - Three favorite/ important touring wrestlers who were important in a country they weren’t born from. 

Magic & Bird - Best rivalry between 2 workers.

GOAT - One to rule them All!!!

 

You can’t use the same worker in multiple spots. @Dolfan in NYC will ban you if you use the same name twice. I don’t write the rules.

 

2 hours ago, The Natural said:

I'll get back to you, bud.

Five favourite wrestlers: Mick Foley, Samoa Joe, Ricky Steamboat, Sting and Cesaro.

Mount Rushmore: Bret Hart, Eddie Guerrero, Kenta Kobashi and Rey Mysterio.

The Magi: Terry Funk, Stan Hansen and The Great Muta.

Magic & Bird: Hiroshi Tanahashi vs. Kazuchika Okada.

GOAT: Bryan Danielson.

Edited November 12, 2024 by The Natural

[The Natural]

Unless Octopus pulls a Vince Russo bro swerve, it'll be him, NikoBaltimore and me with Bryan Danielson as our GOAT.

Edited November 12, 2024 by The Natural

[Infinit]

20 hours ago, Octopus said:

Derp. 5 Fives!

 

Top 5 - Five favorite wrestlers

Mount Rushmore - Four historic/ important wrestling figures.

The Magi - Three favorite/ important touring wrestlers who were important in a country they weren’t born from. 

Magic & Bird - Best rivalry between 2 workers.

GOAT - One to rule them All!!!

 

You can’t use the same worker in multiple spots. @Dolfan in NYC will ban you if you use the same name twice. I don’t write the rules.

Fave 5

Savage Kojima Liger Steamboat Bret

Rushmore

Flair Sting Hogan Bruno

Magi

Andre Hansen Brody

Magic & Bird

Austin & Rock

GOAT

Terry Funk

[The Natural]

Leaving Randy Savage off mine was the hardest cut.

[Infinit]

Just found out, that for some reason Bully Ray blocked me on Twitter. Which I find hilarious lol.