November 2024 Wrestling Discussion

[Nice Guy Eddie]

1 hour ago, Brandon-E said:

When people talk about the worst matches of all time, I don't think you'll see something like the Ken Anderson vs Samuel Shaw I Quit match from Hardcore Justice 2014 get mentioned.

I'll throw out Shelly Martinez vs. Rebel from one of those TNA One Night Only ppv's. It's notable for Shelly audibly yelling out "My Vag" and for her big Latina floppies constantly coming out of her bikini. 

https://youtu.be/Xwdeflzp6j0?si=mzZsyKS-OTxRTibA

[Brandon-E]

Ken Anderson vs Sam Shaw might have been the worst I Quit match in the history of wrestling.

[Nice Guy Eddie]

4 minutes ago, Brandon-E said:

Ken Anderson vs Sam Shaw might have been the worst I Quit match in the history of wrestling.

Considering Ken Anderson was involved, I don't doubt that. No, I'm not going to torture myself and watch it. 

Edited November 5, 2024 by Nice Guy Eddie

[The Comedian]

2 hours ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

I'll throw out Shelly Martinez vs. Rebel from one of those TNA One Night Only ppv's. It's notable for Shelly audibly yelling out "My Vag" and for her big Latina floppies constantly coming out of her bikini. 

https://youtu.be/Xwdeflzp6j0?si=mzZsyKS-OTxRTibA

Whatever agent actually let those two go out there with the idea that they were going to finish with a variation of the Benoit-Jericho suicide dive spot should not even be allowed to set up matches on Firepro from now on, let alone in a real ring...

[odessasteps]

14 hours ago, colonial said:

https://www.gofundme.com/f/support-dirty-dutch-mantell-during-health-crisis

GoFundMe launched for Dutch Mantel and his family given their numerous health issues.

Currently just short of $ 67,000.00

[sabremike]

19 hours ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

I'll throw out Shelly Martinez vs. Rebel from one of those TNA One Night Only ppv's. It's notable for Shelly audibly yelling out "My Vag" and for her big Latina floppies constantly coming out of her bikini. 

https://youtu.be/Xwdeflzp6j0?si=mzZsyKS-OTxRTibA

I am pretty sure this is the only pro wrestling match in history (excluding apartment wrestling or other things of that ilk) where the story was based around targeting and working over the vagina.

[Dewar]

bobholly138 road reports are a good read. Thanks for sharing. 

[Cobra Commander]

Well if they had ever gotten Yoko’s weight under control, they could have seen how far his hair could go back out because this Kokina look is pretty good

 

[blitzkrieg]

The WWE Vault page on YouTube just keeps having fun with things:

[nate]

On 11/2/2024 at 9:52 AM, The Natural said:

Sending some love to nate before his upcoming major surgery which he mentioned here. In our thoughts, mate.

Thank you.

I'm recovering ok now.  They had to remove a hernia and some infection, then reconstruct my abdomen, layer by layer.

I'm grateful for Natural for reaching out, and this place for being the community it has been for me.  I appreciate all of you.

[Ziggy]

8 hours ago, Cobra Commander said:

Well if they had ever gotten Yoko’s weight under control, they could have seen how far his hair could go back out because this Kokina look is pretty good

 

I'm not saying they pressured him to gain more weight but the nature of having a Sumo gave him an excuse to get his weight out of control.

If he didn't have the Yokozuna gimmick, he would have been encouraged to keep up the same level of athleticism he had as Kokina.

It's crazy to think he almost started as a headshrinker instead, which in hindsight probably would have been better for him health wise. Fatu and Samu were better together and I am sure they would have decided to have Yoko as singles in some form and being the top heel.

Before he was taken off TV to lose weight, they started having him talk as his real self. I'm sure if he was still on TV in the attitude era he probably would've had a transformation like Undertaker had as the biker.

[odessasteps]

On 11/5/2024 at 10:49 PM, odessasteps said:

Currently just short of $ 67,000.00

Currently $90,000 and change. 

[Cobra Commander]

one thing I noticed with WWE Vault uploading WarGames matches from WCW is how they would sprint to the finish as soon as all the team members were in the match... I mean it makes sense but it's also different than the main event overdoing it of recent years

[ChesterCopperpot]

Elimination Chamber - Rogers Centre, Toronto - March 1, 2025 

[Vgmastr]

WWE Vault just keeps on giving, a dark match featuring Bret Hart vs Hakushi in a steel cage:

https://youtu.be/7jfGcROtUL0?si=8yzrfRQry5QnoIjj

Edited November 8, 2024 by Vgmastr

[Cobra Commander]

someone is probably suggesting the idea of "let fans dub their own commentary over WWE vault matches with no commentary" as a contest

[Log]

Just now, Cobra Commander said:

someone is probably suggesting the idea of "let fans dub their own commentary over WWE vault matches with no commentary" as a contest

That's a case where I'd be way more interested in hearing the ones that didn't win than the one that does.

[Cobra Commander]

Just now, Log said:

That's a case where I'd be way more interested in hearing the ones that didn't win than the one that does.

"man there sure are a lot of fans who sound like they ripped their commentary style off of ICP's JCW commentary"

[assfax]

I wish youtube had a built in feature that let you do audio commentary over existing videos and have it sync up and play with the video seamlessly.

[Technico Support]

17 hours ago, Ziggy said:

I'm not saying they pressured him to gain more weight but the nature of having a Sumo gave him an excuse to get his weight out of control.

If he didn't have the Yokozuna gimmick, he would have been encouraged to keep up the same level of athleticism he had as Kokina.

 

I wouldn't go so far as to call the brother fat, I mean he got a weight problem. What's the ****** gonna do? He's Samoan.

2 hours ago, Cobra Commander said:

"man there sure are a lot of fans who sound like they ripped their commentary style off of ICP's JCW commentary"

Oh man, now I'm just laughing to myself thinking about Stranglemania. 

[Curt McGirt]

The powerbomb spot in Stranglemania 2 where they keep rewinding Combat Toyota getting her skull crushed is still one of the funniest things ever. 

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/cJ9SrqYp5aQ

Edited November 8, 2024 by Curt McGirt

[Nice Guy Eddie]

On 11/7/2024 at 1:04 PM, Cobra Commander said:

Well if they had ever gotten Yoko’s weight under control, they could have seen how far his hair could go back out because this Kokina look is pretty good

 

I've never actually heard Afa or Sika speak, so that was something. I'm kind of surprised Vince didn't keep the Kokina gimmick on Yoko simply because of how much Kokina sounds like cocaine. However, I guess Vince didn't need a constant reminder of the nose candy. 

Edited November 9, 2024 by Nice Guy Eddie

[username]

21 hours ago, Cobra Commander said:

one thing I noticed with WWE Vault uploading WarGames matches from WCW is how they would sprint to the finish as soon as all the team members were in the match... I mean it makes sense but it's also different than the main event overdoing it of recent years

I think the biggest difference between the classic WarGames matches and the current Blood & Guts (and possibly the WWE ones, not familiar enough with them to say) is that both teams reaching full strength was initially the climax of the match, now it is more or less where the match begins. Prefer whichever approach you do, I just hate that overdone "both teams are in their own ring, staredown then meet in the middle" spot.

[odessasteps]

That’s why the last part was “the match beyond” once everyone was in the match. 

[Curt McGirt]

Does WWE have a copyright on that term?